Building a new pc , is it worth going to SSD or should i stick with SATA

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skid00skid00

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The difference between an HD, and an SSD, is the same as the difference between a 10 year old 800 Mhz PII laptop, and an overclocked 3.6 Ghz dual-core desktop. Are you still running a vacuum-tube computer every day, when you could have a Cray supercomputer?
 
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Because the velociraptor only cost me $150 when I bought it from a local place that was shutting his doors.

Anyway I personally can't see spending so much on a single drive right now. It's a personal choice. If you have money to burn then sure, like if someone wanted an extreme edition CPU. Let them go for it I guess. Me? Not happening lol

and how much were 7200rpm drives when you bought the raptor?
if you spent more for the raptor than the going rate at the time for "regular" drives, then you are contradicting yourself.


have you ever used an SSD?
 
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HAY guys I want to upgrade my GPU card but I dont know if I should get a PCIe or a nVidia. Any help??

1. the OP joined to ask this question and left. probably not going to read your condescending remark.

2. even if he did, he probably doesn't understand.

point, we were all noobs once. i'm sure there's a thing or 2 that you don't know.
 

cmdrdredd

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and how much were 7200rpm drives when you bought the raptor?
if you spent more for the raptor than the going rate at the time for "regular" drives, then you are contradicting yourself.


have you ever used an SSD?

It's moot because there was no such thing as SSD when I got this. PLUS, I wasn't going to spend $300+ for it at retail. If I didn't get the $150 deal I would NOT, repeat NOT NOT NOT NOT! Do you get it!? NOT have bought it.
 

Voo

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It's moot because there was no such thing as SSD when I got this. PLUS, I wasn't going to spend $300+ for it at retail. If I didn't get the $150 deal I would NOT, repeat NOT NOT NOT NOT! Do you get it!? NOT have bought it.
That doesn't change the fact that you paid more for the raptor than for a 7200rpm drive.

Even at 150$ it was quite a bit more expensive $/gb wise than the normal drives, so his point is valid..
 

sxr7171

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On a desktop maybe think about it (personally I'm all for SSD on anything right now).

On a laptop, you know storage is the bottleneck. This is like getting better than Raptor speeds on a laptop. 2 years ago that was unthinkable (unless you dared to put your raptor in a laptop and live with 15 minute battery life).

Anyway, having a laptop with no moving parts and fast, fast, fast storage access has been great.

In other words "if you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up."
 

StinkyPinky

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I only use my desktop for gaming and web browsing. Doubt SSD drive would do much for me. Really depends on usage.
 

pcslookout

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I only use my desktop for gaming and web browsing. Doubt SSD drive would do much for me. Really depends on usage.

Well it does help with web browsing speed and definitely multitasking. If you ever ran your tcp/ip stack and browser cache folder off a ramdrive that is about how much it helps speed up your web browsing. It is pretty cool. That is just a extra bonus for me I didn't get a SSD just for that. Got it for better multitasking mainly.
 

sxr7171

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Well it does help with web browsing speed and definitely multitasking. If you ever ran your tcp/ip stack and browser cache folder off a ramdrive that is about how much it helps speed up your web browsing. It is pretty cool. That is just a extra bonus for me I didn't get a SSD just for that. Got it for better multitasking mainly.

Wow I've run browser cache on RAM disk but how do you run the TCP/IP stack on RAM Disk? Sounds like a cool thing to try.
 

pcslookout

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Wow I've run browser cache on RAM disk but how do you run the TCP/IP stack on RAM Disk? Sounds like a cool thing to try.

Last time I did it was well over 2 to 3 years ago should be able to find it on google. Last time I did it I couldn't get it to work May be because I tried it on Vista. Last time I had it working was on Windows 2000 and XP. Not sure if you can do it fine in Vista and 7. Never tried it on a 64 bit OS easier. More simple to just have my SSD. Sense it basically does the same thing without all the hassle.
 
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That doesn't change the fact that you paid more for the raptor than for a 7200rpm drive.

Even at 150$ it was quite a bit more expensive $/gb wise than the normal drives, so his point is valid..

exactly, and cmddreddeded, you dodged the question.
have you spent any time on an SSD equipped PC? (preferably an intel G2)
 
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sxr7171

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Last time I did it was well over 2 to 3 years ago should be able to find it on google. Last time I did it I couldn't get it to work May be because I tried it on Vista. Last time I had it working was on Windows 2000 and XP. Not sure if you can do it fine in Vista and 7. Never tried it on a 64 bit OS easier. More simple to just have my SSD. Sense it basically does the same thing without all the hassle.


Yeah I agree about the SSD taking the hassle out of good performance.
 

SonnyDaze

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I really only play T1 games so i have to wait for other people to load anyways. In these scenarios upgrading your PCI-e or DVI devices would be a better upgrade path for me. A lot of people dont even understand the benefit of having a great USB in addition to a great 1366. Its what every competitive gamer needs. Make sure you invest in a good 4 pin molex as well to keep everything cool.

Raid SATAs is enough for me currently

Lol i dont even know what i just wrote

:biggrin::biggrin: I've had a shitty day and that just made it better.
 

KamiXkaze

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As what most have said if you have the funds to get one or several then go for it. right now too pricey, but in the future that will change.

kXk
 

ShawnD1

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Would it give greater performance gains to buy more ram instead of getting a SSD? Stuff like my web browser has no load time since I never close it; I leave Opera running 24 hours per day. If I'm working on something like AutoCAD, it starts up at the beginning of the day and it stays open until I'm finished using it which could easily be 10 hours later.

Games seems like a pointless argument. I made a video a while back to show the load time for Fallout 3 when using a "green" 5400rpm drive. less than 20 seconds from desktop to shooting monsters
 

cmdrdredd

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So it's OK to pay extra for a top of line GPU ($400+) because you "need it" but it's NOT OK for someone else to spend $150-300 on a fast SSD because they "need it"?

I love to game on my rig too, but you need to understand some people do work on their machines, or do other things that require something rather than what the CPU or GPU can provide for. I can attest I was critical of the SSD too, but after spending a modest amount on my G2, it's been night and day. I can't remember this big of a jump in performance since upgrading from my 486DX2-66 to my Pentium-166MMX.

DO you know how to read? That should be a requirement here. Where did I say You, He, She, They, Everyone, or anything other than "I" and "me?"
 

cmdrdredd

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cmrdededded?
anything?

Maybe if you spell the damn name right I'll consider what you said a priority.

Further it does NOT matter in the least whether I've used one or not. Why? Because looking at the price I will never, I repeat NEVER buy one at the current prices. So using one and seeing what it does means jack.

This has been my point all along, the price is too high so I recommend wait it out. If you're rich then go ahead, I don't bitch at people driving a Porsche instead of a Camaro. Don't get your panties in a wad over MY decision and MY recommendation. I'm not holding a gun to your head in this decision.
 

cmdrdredd

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That doesn't change the fact that you paid more for the raptor than for a 7200rpm drive.

Even at 150$ it was quite a bit more expensive $/gb wise than the normal drives, so his point is valid..

No it's not valid, not in the slightest. The $300+ price was out of my budget for a simple HDD, way out. $150 was feasable considering it was almost half the retail price at the time.

If an SSD was $150 for a decent one that had TRIM and wasn't less than 160GB then I would also buy one. However, that is not the case.

Is it too hard to understand that some of us actually have a budget for PC gear and don't have a blank check so to speak? I think so...
 

rmd2001

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Well, original question was:
Building a new pc , is it worth going to SSD or should i stick with SATA

Answer is: YES, YES, YES.

Why: Boot time faster, shut down faster, windows updates faster, games load faster......
 

skid00skid00

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I dont CARE if it gets me places faster, my budget wont HANDLE a car!

Houses are WORTHLESS, and there's no way I can pay for one, so I'll just keep throwing money away on rent.

Health insurance is for idiots, I've never been sick a day in my life!
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If it weren't so stupid, it'd be hilarious...
 

Emulex

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not having to look down and stare at your hard drive light: priceless

(as you yell come on !@#!@ hard drive)
 

sailingtaz

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Haha. So true Emulex. I've stared at the HD light while thinking to myself, "Why am I watching the HD light like an idiot?"

That aside, what about other reasons why one should get a SSD?

For me, it was a no brainer upgrade. I travel constantly with my laptop and at the office it goes to several meetings a day. I’ve had couple of HDs fails (I’m sure I contributed to their demise) and I knew I had to move to SSD for its durability. I forked out my own money (Kingston 40g) and it’s been working great.

One thing I love is the fast OS resume which is perfect when you are running from meeting to meeting. This benefit alone was worth it for me. Don’t have to run around with the lid open or set the power management to sub-optimal settings so the lappy doesn’t go into sleep/hibernate.

I guess SSDs are like flat screen TVs: If you have the money, it’s a no brainer buy, and you can show it off to your friends.
 

ShawnD1

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One thing I love is the fast OS resume which is perfect when you are running from meeting to meeting. This benefit alone was worth it for me. Don’t have to run around with the lid open or set the power management to sub-optimal settings so the lappy doesn’t go into sleep/hibernate.

You do realize that fast resume and hard drive are completely unrelated, right?
 
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