Building P4 3.06 GHz

[Karbi]

Hi Gurus,

I want to build Pentium4 3.06 GHz desktop computer with 2 GB RAM and 200 GB Hard Disk.

Where can I find the information about compatible motherboards,CPUs and RAMs.


Thanks in Advance
Karbi

 

[bgeh]

i would recommend you to get a granite bay(E7205) based board like Gigabyte 8INXP or Asus P48GX
it has four slots of memory which will ease your burden for finding 1GB ram sticks.
it also supports hyperthreading

as for hard drives, i'd recommend 2 Western Digital 'special edition' 100GB hard drives on raid 0 to get extra performance and for the full 200gb

where can you find info?
Anandtech
or if you need help, you can always ask from us

btw, welcome AT Forums

 

[Gretzky]

today at bestbuy I saw a 200gb Western Digital 8mb cache hd. It was 200 bucks after instant saving and a mail in rebat.

 

[chiwawa626]

heh if u got cash up the wazzooo like that then just go for an alienware prebuilt

 

[VBboy]

Get the Radeon 9700 Pro to go with it.

 

[Karbi]

Hi bgeh,

What is the compatible 3.06 processor with this motherboard. I mean, is there any particular processor/Item# which is compatible and supports Hyper-threading technology.

Where can I buy these motherboards and CPU for reasonable prices, either online/retail store.

 

[Alptraum]

Check out www.newegg.com and www.googlegear.com.

Edit = Oh, and as far as what to get I am very happy with the Asus P4T533-C running a P4 3.06 with 512megs of Kingston 1066 RDRAM.

 

[Justorq]

For the Hard Drive ... I'd get a Maxtor 200G

 

[jose]

Get the Asus Granite Bay mob & WD se drives Also get Samsung Original or cosiar XMS ram...
I'd also recomend the GFfx video (I don't care for Ati).
Also look at the Creative Audigy2 sound card.

What are you going to use this computer for ?

Regards,
Jose

 

[Casper5748]

The Asus P4G8X has not been released yet. Check out this board from Supermicro. Supermicro P4SAA It has the granite bay chipset and is probably one of the most technologically advanced motherboards out there. If this is to expensive though. I would say the best board would be the Asus P4PE. This doesn't have the Dual DDR but you will still be able to take advantage of the hyperthreading that the 3.06 cpu will give you. I don't know if anyone needs to GB of Ram right now but you can buy any ram as long as it is name brand. I would suggest you go with a PC2700 if you are going to be using the newest pentium chip.

 

[LegionX]

ok i do know that the sis648 chipset doesnt support the hyperthreading so stay away from those. i would recommend a 9700 since nvidia isnt out yet but i would look at some of the other brand 9700's that offer better cooling options - the hercules i hear is great for coooling and o/c.

dual 100 gig western digitals would be good so you can raid them if you want to now or later. if i were buying a board now i would probably go for the pe boards even though they only have agp4 becuase the granite bay boards are just now showing up and we wont know how good they are. the rambus boards are fast but you will pay for it and the future of rambus is as always still up in the air.

if your waiting for a month or so all that i say might change with newer boards, ata serial hard drives and stuff coming out sooner or later.
back to motherboards - make sure that whatever you buy supports hyperthreading.

 

[Booster]

You could get an ECS P4S5ADX+ moboard. It supports 3.06 hyper-threaded P4 with a BIOS update, and it costs only $50.

 

[dakels]

Hi Karbi,

sounds like a nice computer you are about to put together! One thing I noticed was alot of talk about components but no reference to what your budget is. Don't expect to put together a top notch system like this for less then $2000. The processor and MB alone will run you $800-900, and don't expect to get a $50 MB for your $650 processor. Thats like getting a Ferrari engine and stuffing it into a Yugo transission. Then you could spend $100-300 on a case and PSU, then $600-800+ on RAM (4x 512mb), $200-250 on drives (2x 100gb WD SE), $300 for the R9700, $100 sound card (audigy 2), $100 on optical drives (CDRW/DVD), and not to mention speakers ($60-$400), $50-100 on cables and fans, $50-100+ shipping everything, etc... And we still haven't mentioend the monitor or anything else like printer or scanner or router, etc.

Are you prepared to pay $2000-3000? If so well good for you, you'll get one hell of a machine. If not then maybe you should post what your budget is, certain types of things you would like to have, and what the intended usage is. It's much easier to pinpoint exactly what you want instead of just making some super computer for you that is only using Word and playng UT.

And why do you need 2gb of RAM? I work in graphics, audio/video, and sometimes 3D and CAD. All my machines have 1gb RAM but I have never felt the need to get more. What are you doing? Most machines dont need more then 512mb, even hardcore gaming machines.

 

[magomago]

Yeah, I just wanted to say that if you get a 3.06 get a mobo worth a darn. Whatever you do, do not cut costs on the motherboard as it is one of the worst things to do.

That, and post your budget because it sounds like you are easily going to blast through 4 thousand with all these reccomendations....

and 250 dollars for two WDSE 100gigs? You mean 250 a PEICE? Right?

As for a videocard, I personally reccomend waiting until the GeforceFX is released and then grabbing ATI's new R350 which should trounce on the FX or atleast be superior to it. The other option if you wanted to keep the cost down a little would be to wait for the FX and R350 and then grab a 9700PRO and overclock it.

But be prepared to spend a lot of cash. And if for some reason you don't want to build it, go get a pc from Falcon Northwest or Alienware as they are great companies.

But if you will build it, have fun

 

[Alptraum]

and 250 dollars for two WDSE 100gigs? You mean 250 a PEICE? Right?

You could (and maybe still can) get them for $80 or $90 a peice from Best Buy with rebtes recently.

 

[Alptraum]

And as far as price goes, yeah it wont be all that cheap if you get all this stuff. I jsut put one together recently thats similiar to what you mentioned Karbi. For comparision purposes here is what I got and what it cost.

P4 3.06 Retail
ASUS P4T533-C
512meg Kingston PC1066 RDRAM
Audigy 2 Retail
ATI 9700 Pro Retail
Antec 1080AMG case (includes 430W power supply)
WD 120gig SE drive
MS Natural Elite Keyboard
MS Explorer IntellMouse 3.0a
Windows Xp Pro

With tax and shipping it was abit under 2 grand. I already had a burner, DVD drive, some SCSI drives,speakers and monitor among other peripherals. So if you are starting totally from scratch you will need to factor some of those into cost.

 

[TonyB]

do not get the P4PE if you are planning on over 1GB of ram. The board only supports two sticks of double sided ram even though it has 3 slots. The maximum amount of ram you can fit in there safely is 1GB (2x512), unless you can find single sided 512MB sticks or double sided 1GB sticks that are compatible with the P4PE. Be real careful when choosing 1GB sticks of ram, and this goes for all motherboards including the P4PE, fact is not all boards support all brands of 1GB sticks so do your research before purchasing to make sure they are both compatible.

There are limited releases of the P4G8X deluxe board floating around, if you're lucky enough to get one, then I highly recommend that board for the system that you're designing. Both the P4PE and the P4G8X are HT enabled so you'll have no problem supporting the 3.06GHz.

For the hard drive, I would NOT get two 100GBs and raid them UNLESS you were doing raid 1.. otherwise, you should look around for the Maxtor 200GB 7200RPM drive which is way cheaper than the WD2000JB, the maxtor is $199 last time i checked compared to $250+ for the WD.

 

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: Booster
You could get an ECS P4S5ADX+ moboard. It supports 3.06 hyper-threaded P4 with a BIOS update, and it costs only $50.

Yeah, but I find that you get what you pay for. I have teh K7S5A, and it hasn't been terrible, but it hasn't been as stable as my old mobo (ok, that's not fair because my old mobo was a 440BX, but still...).

If you get two 1000JBs (Western Digital 100GB drives) and RAID 0 them, then you run the risk of losing ALL of your data if one of them goes down. It decreases the MTBF of the array to lower than what one drive alone will have. Since you've got money coming out the wazoo (seriously, you had better be a millionaire to be buying a proc that costs $700, otherwise, you're an idiot), then why don't you just get 4 800JBs, an Adaptec 2-channel RAID card, set up a RAID 5 array, and then you'll have increased speed and great reliability.

Seriously, if you feel that you need a 3.06GHz HT proc and 2GB of RAM, then you had best be doing some serious video editing and CAD work. Otherwise, you're a bigger idiot. I'm not usually this harsh (sometimes I am), but since I'm somehow sure that you haven't searched, nobody recommends over 512MB of RAM unless you do some serious video editing - EVEN IF you have money to blow. There is simply no increase in performance above that in most programs. But hey, spend your money if you like. Don't listen to me. But, you know, I could be your personal hardware advisor... for a small fee. Hey, I'll be your man-servant for less than the cost of a 3.06GHz HT P4!

 

[dakels]

Originally posted by: IlmaterHey, I'll be your man-servant for less than the cost of a 3.06GHz HT P4!

I got $200 to spare. Now get in the kitchen and make me some pie!

 

[bgeh]

Originally posted by: Karbi
Hi bgeh,

What is the compatible 3.06 processor with this motherboard. I mean, is there any particular processor/Item# which is compatible and supports Hyper-threading technology.

Where can I buy these motherboards and CPU for reasonable prices, either online/retail store.

the 3.06GHz chip and granite bay both support hyperthreading

 

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: dakels

Originally posted by: IlmaterHey, I'll be your man-servant for less than the cost of a 3.06GHz HT P4!

I got $200 to spare. Now get in the kitchen and make me some pie!

I have three words for you...

APPLE OR CHERRY?!

 

[jose]

Where's the original poster ? Karbi ???

 

[dakels]

Originally posted by: Ilmater

Originally posted by: dakels

Originally posted by: IlmaterHey, I'll be your man-servant for less than the cost of a 3.06GHz HT P4!

I got $200 to spare. Now get in the kitchen and make me some pie!

I have three words for you...

APPLE OR CHERRY?!

Why Apple of course.... G4 Apples.

 

[GrumpyMan]

Originally posted by: Alptraum
And as far as price goes, yeah it wont be all that cheap if you get all this stuff. I jsut put one together recently thats similiar to what you mentioned Karbi. For comparision purposes here is what I got and what it cost.

P4 3.06 Retail
ASUS P4T533-C
512meg Kingston PC1066 RDRAM
Audigy 2 Retail
ATI 9700 Pro Retail
Antec 1080AMG case (includes 430W power supply)
WD 120gig SE drive
MS Natural Elite Keyboard
MS Explorer IntellMouse 3.0a
Windows Xp Pro

With tax and shipping it was abit under 2 grand. I already had a burner, DVD drive, some SCSI drives,speakers and monitor among other peripherals. So if you are starting totally from scratch you will need to factor some of those into cost.

My apologies to Karbi for sort of hijacking this thread but, hey Alptraum I have pretty much the same rig as you do with the exception of the 9700 Pro which I will be getting with a 3.06. Did you have any problems at all installing that chip in there? And what bios are you using? I currently have a 2.26 in mine.

 

[majewski9]

I would wait a month before purchasing a new top of line CPU.