Building the Bentley Mulsanne

[Virgorising]

If you love excellence, magnificently made anything, in this event, in HAND MADE by geniuses luxury vehicles, do not miss this offering from PBS!

These cars cost what they do, NOT because of imagery or cache or manufactured hype. (As is everything Hermes now.)

Not my style these astonishing, powerful luxury vehicles, but that is not the point.

Just hand stitching the leather on each steering wheel....takes SIXTEEN HOURS.

And, I had no idea W.O Bentley basically invented the aluminum engine block/pistons in the beginning of the 20th century by figuring out how to strengthen the essentially soft metal with the right alloys! Forget, first application was in WW1 planes!!! FORGET, the history of leather tanning, the history of veneering or any of the other elements in this fabulous documentary.

And, you will see cutting edge technology, all proprietary.....used in service of HAND MADE BY INDIVIDUAL GENIUSES, not engineered to take the place of the latter! Each Mulsanne takes approx SIX HUNDRED HOURS TO BUILD.

This thing, this precious docu.....is THRILLING.

http://video.pbs.org/video/2365102196/

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My observation: There's been no automotive discussion for a long time in this thread.
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[Virgorising]

OMG, SERIOUSLY?

Not one human in this VEHICLE forum has been moved to watch this truly breathtaking, meticulously rendered, PARADIGM OF EXCELLENCE in humans and automotive ANYTHING....(and, with amazing, symphonic music track, far more splendid than that in any action hero movie.... and, with rich historical foundation) masterwork?????:|

And then leap into the air and exult?????:'( I never even held a lug wrench and I am still leaping!

Seriously???????

 

[ponyo]

I caught part of the program before I fell asleep. It was interesting but I was just exhausted after long day at work. I'm not a huge fan of Bentley styling but I do like the look of the Mulsanne. It was interesting learning about the history of Bentley and the work he did on aluminum engines on both cars and planes.

 

[Virgorising]

I caught part of the program before I fell asleep. It was interesting but I was just exhausted after long day at work. I'm not a huge fan of Bentley styling but I do like the look of the Mulsanne. It was interesting learning about the history of Bentley and the work he did on aluminum engines on both cars and planes.

Well......I thank you for this, I fear, pity-generated post!:|

But, OMG, U R stuck in look and style??????? Babe, if so, you are missing out ginormously! Forget, in danger of being a slave to commerce! NONE of this...NONE OF WHAT MAKES THIS DOCU THRILLING... has anything to do with either!

Not just zero to 60 in 5.1 seconds, despite its size---not simply off the hook luxury, but that hand made engine is POWERFUL, forget the unique body construction and every other part.....but THINK ABOUT, IF EVERYTHING IN LIFE WERE ENGINEERED/GESTATED... AND MADE with this kinda genius, pride and benchmark defining excellence!

Bet Henry Ford is turning over in his grave. Tho, he was a total martinet lowlife/sleazoid anyhow.

I had NO CLUE, until I had the privilege of seeing this thing, that this particular vehicle's starting sticker price of 300K reflected all it does! A 2014 Sting Ray goes for 56K (and no hitting, the front end looks like all others now: like some giant, glossy, bloated waterbug).

My wish list, imaginary 67 Tri power bigblock Vette, almost cherry, goes for 100K and up. And the last Ferrari Enzo had anything to do with, was the F 40. But, SOOOOOOO many things in life, the prices, do not reflect anything but cache!!!! I mean, in any arena.

Pls get unstuck and get Admin permission to open the passion file so you do not loose ACCESS TO IT AND ALL ITS GOODIES!!!

But, I do thank you.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

i thought the program was not very good, but probably ok for the layman which it's targeted at. besides being very oversimplified (subtitles???), it exaggerated or omitted many facts. the craftsmanship and attention to detail are special, but not unique as they're presented. you'd think a documentary on the mulsanne would delve a bit deeper into bentley's racing past, particularly the namesake mulsanne straight and corner at le mans, but i can't recall if they're even mentioned at all.

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goddammit, monocoque is pronounced "mono-cock" not "mono-coke". and the car has a space-frame, not monocoque. this show was weak.

 

[Virgorising]

i thought the program was not very good, but probably ok for the layman which it's targeted at. besides being very oversimplified (subtitles???), it exaggerated or omitted many facts. the craftsmanship and attention to detail are special, but not unique as they're presented. you'd think a documentary on the mulsanne would delve a bit deeper into bentley's racing past, particularly the namesake mulsanne straight and corner at le mans, but i can't recall if they're even mentioned at all.

Wow. Given the disparity between what I (and those I know personally, to whom I linked this thing) watched, versus what you watched, I refer you to my signature and the quote from Proust.

They did, of course, in DELINEATING everything meticulously, putting precisely the right emphasis on every element....mention Bentley's racing roots. This was NOT ABOUT RACING. Or formula ANYTHING.

Tons of humans over time raced and, are racing things with engines and wheels. How many of them invented a way to employ aluminum in engine blocks and pistons, and so, changed automotive engineering FOREVER? Answer: ONE. Not to mention the ripple effect this had on EVERYTHING NOT car-related.

Not sure what you are trying to prove, but I am taken aback re all I submit you missed, giving this dense with data thing, and the simplistic assignment you seem to be giving it to be about racing, versus depicting a real paradigm of human pride, genius and excellence.

"For the LAYMAN?" SERIOUSLY? As if you knew that ANYTHING which was depicted in this thing even existed in the modern world? You have the privilege of contributing on this level in what you do for a living? You own ONE ITEM which defines excellence on this level? Something Faberge? A Patek timepiece? An all original 18th century American Windsor chair? A Monet?

Common.....

Think Marcel Proust!!!!!

Edit: Now, just seeing yr edit, above....more bitter invective hurling belying the reality, I am thinking you may be some Beantown, sour grapes Malcontent. Fess up....is this about the Red Socks?:sneaky:

Or, did it start before the playoffs?:sneaky:

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

The biggest thing about this video is that you Americans mis-pronounce and mis-spell aluminium.

 

[Virgorising]

The biggest thing about this video is that you Americans mis-pronounce and mis-spell aluminium.

God Bless U, Mr. Pedantic across The Pond.... who should change his screen name to Mr. Deliciously Sardonic.

Cause that.......was ADORABLE.:biggrin: And I, for one, and suddenly, am in serious need of adorable (and positive) in this thread.

But pls also get, videos are like uTube stuff; this.....was a brilliant, LONG IN THE MAKING, academically rich, forget hugely mezmerzing, original documentary offering via a huge team of very gifted, very devoted humans. That the narrator---he narrates many such offerings from PBS--- erudite, clear and with fab voice, is on my side of the pond....is just fine.

But I have no doubt at all....you will get it all SORTED!!!:biggrin:

 

[The Boston Dangler]

excellence (the very theme of the program) is measured against one's contemporaries, and this documentary comes up lacking. similar programs delve into greater detail, while not constantly mispronouncing "feature" words like monocoque. the narrator could have just as easily made a dog food commercial - a script is a script is a script.

the topical content is equally woeful. the technology (brought in by parent company VW) is glossed over, ignored or misrepresented, the artistic design is ignored, but the greatest sin is the omission of bentley's own history while spewing garbage about the egyptians and hittites. harking back to bentley's glory days in the 20's and 30's is at the core of bentley's rebranding - thus the brooklands, arnage, and now mulsanne. as superficial as it is, the pedigree is just as much a pillar of the final works as the hand-stitched leather.

as an enthusiast, this program has let me down. it's well below what is expected from pbs and is very similar to the throw-aways from discovery, history channel and others. there were much better programs on ferrari and bugatti for example, immersing the viewer in history, artistry and science while not making the narrator nor the viewer dumber for having watched it.

precisely the right emphasis on every element....mention Bentley's racing roots.

but not the origin of the name? pathetic.

As if you knew that ANYTHING which was depicted in this thing even existed in the modern world?

where to begin with such an overstatement? i'm quite familiar with the concepts of leather, paint, wood, iron and aluminium. those were the talking points of the show, yes?

You have the privilege of contributing on this level in what you do for a living?

in that degree of excellence, yes i certainly have, although crafting a telecom network and crafting a piece of automotive jewelry is an apples-to-oranges comparison.

You own ONE ITEM which defines excellence on this level? Something Faberge? A Patek timepiece? An all original 18th century American Windsor chair? A Monet?

is this about the artist or the customer, or even the documentary? you seem confused. your series of over-the-top comments, bordering on personal attacks, betrays the weakness of your position. this show was indeed crap, and no amount of hyperbole can convince me otherwise.

 

[Fritzo]

Ehhh....caught it. I can appreciate the work they do, but it was put together in a very boring and outdated style. The Ferrari and Porsche "how it's made" shows on the Science channel were much better.

 

[Zenmervolt]

THINK ABOUT, IF EVERYTHING IN LIFE WERE ENGINEERED/GESTATED... AND MADE with this kinda genius, pride and benchmark defining excellence!

If everything were made in the same manner as the Bentley, you wouldn't be able to afford an internet connection and we'd be a century behind where we are right now in technological progress.

Mass production enabled the incredible technological progress we've seen today. Without it, most of the luxuries that the middle class (and even lower class) take for granted would be prohibitively expensive without mass production. Life would be absolutely miserable if everything were built like a Bentley. On top of that, hand assembly almost invariably means lower levels of fit and finish compared to modern robotic assembly.

Things like the Bentley are glorious excess, but that's all they are. They are certainly not exemplars of desirable production methods for necessary goods.

There's a certain cachet (note the proper spelling) to these items because they're time-consuming to produce (and therefore expensive due to the amount of human labor involved) but the fact is that mass produced items are generally more reliable (and, in the case of watches, more accurate), more durable, and easier to repair.

Granted, the Bentley is an amazing piece of engineering; I love its ambition and the sheer over-the-top-ness of the car, but life would be horrible if everything were built in that fashion.

ZV

ZV

 

[Virgorising]

excellence (the very theme of the program) is measured against one's contemporaries, and this documentary comes up lacking. similar programs delve into greater detail, while not constantly mispronouncing "feature" words like monocoque. the narrator could have just as easily made a dog food commercial - a script is a script is a script.

NO,. excellence is classic: it is what stands the test of TIME. Show me a dog food commercial (shame on you), or any other commercial honoring in depth historical provenance in every element addressed. Listen to Scorcese on genius films of the silent era…..it is Nirvana.

the topical content is equally woeful. the technology (brought in by parent company VW) is glossed over, ignored or misrepresented, the artistic design is ignored, but the greatest sin is the omission of bentley's own history while spewing garbage about the egyptians and hittites. harking back to bentley's glory days in the 20's and 30's is at the core of bentley's rebranding - thus the brooklands, arnage, and now mulsanne. as superficial as it is, the pedigree is just as much a pillar of the final works as the hand stitched leather.

The Technology WHICH FOSTERS AND AUGMENTS the work of infinitely skilled artisans, WAS SHOWN CLEARLY. Who pays for it in the arcane corporate sense.....was MOOT.

And, if you think the halcyon days of Bentley ended after the 30s…..words fails me. That rappers, pro sports humans, other celebs, buy Bentleys may not always be for the right reasons, I think we should maybe not include Queen Elizabeth in that bunch. And believe me, I ain no kinda Royalist.

You rail against your narrow version of “pedigree” was missing and, at the same time call the rich historical foundation going back to ancient Egypt of the indigenous elements “spewing garbage”???

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precisely the right emphasis on every element....mention Bentley's racing roots.

but not the origin of the name? pathetic.

That is your version of PATHETIC? As per The Bard: “a rose by any other name….” As per Gertrude Stein, “A rose, is a rose is a rose.” What’s pathetic, is some, say, medical person who knows terminology but can’t make a genius differential diagnosis to save himself/herself.

i'm quite familiar with the concepts of leather, paint, wood, iron and aluminium. those were the talking points of the show, yes?

CONCEPTS? U THINK leather, paint, wood. iron, etc are CONCEPTS? Let me share: I have made garments our of leather skins I buy….even once, a handbag. But never in my life have I ever witnessed anything on the level of just the leather work depicted in this documentary. And, I have also designed and built a 9 foot, one of a kind wall system---I am sitting before it at my workstation right now, and because the base material is simple ¾” plywood with birch veneer, ordered very expensive, real deal (not commercial prepared in sheets) Carpathian ELM BURL VENEER from the one and only Constantine Albert in Florida. I also bought a classic book, VENEERING SIMPLIFIED. Using the never forgiving contact cement and slip sheets, after cutting and, yes, BOOKMATCHING VENEER FOR EVERY SINGLE SET OF DOORS….. did the veneering. And, seeing what the artisans at Bentley do, CUTTING THE VENEER THEMSELVES…..FORGET THE SURFACES TO WHICH THEY APPLY IT….I was blown away and so nourished, yet again by this level of excellence.

I knew about analine dyes having been raised by two antiquarians, and so, with good oriental rugs, but no way knew on the levels I learned about it and pigments, etc. in this documentary!


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You have the privilege of contributing on this level in what you do for a living?
in that degree of excellence, yes i certainly have, although crafting a telecom network and crafting a piece of automotive jewelry is an apples-to-oranges comparison.


‘Automotive jewelry” You, as some car guy missed the unique amalgam of exceptional engineering, hand construction (perfectly augmented by proprietary technology) AND the accoutrements of luxury which distinguishes these vehicles? U think the choice of fine woods (many now gone forever form the earth) for the best musical instruments using woods is arbitrary or capricious?
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is this about the artist or the customer, or even the documentary?

It is about ALL OF THE ABOVE and all they are are inexorably entwined with….and beyond. It’s about seeing the whole universe in a single drop of water. It’s about eyes by Marcel Proust.
I have not a shred of “confusion” re what I saw or in my responses. And I feel sad you posted that, cause I also don believe you believe that. At all.

This show was indeed crap, and no amount of hyperbole can convince me otherwise.

No vulgar attempts at impuging either the documentary or my comments about it will ever take root. Not to mention, given your tunnel vision focus on pronunciation and terminology…..you are still calling it ‘A SHOW.”

 

[Virgorising]

ehhh....caught it. I can appreciate the work they do, but it was put together in a very boring and outdated style. The ferrari and porsche "how it's made" shows on the science channel were much better.

Boring and outdated? Seriously???? Is this the net result of formulaic, special effects riddled action movies in 3D? What??????

What is the instrument in yr avatar? Looks acoustic, but I am not sure. Know what rare, first generation Fender Stratocasters and Gibsons go for? AND WHY? And why top musicians lust after them? Not to collect therm, to PLAY THEM.

 

[Virgorising]

If everything were made in the same manner as the Bentley, you wouldn't be able to afford an internet connection and we'd be a century behind where we are right now in technological progress.

Mass production enabled the incredible technological progress we've seen today. Without it, most of the luxuries that the middle class (and even lower class) take for granted would be prohibitively expensive without mass production. Life would be absolutely miserable if everything were built like a Bentley. On top of that, hand assembly almost invariably means lower levels of fit and finish compared to modern robotic assembly.

Things like the Bentley are glorious excess, but that's all they are. They are certainly not exemplars of desirable production methods for necessary goods.

There's a certain cachet (note the proper spelling) to these items because they're time-consuming to produce (and therefore expensive due to the amount of human labor involved) but the fact is that mass produced items are generally more reliable (and, in the case of watches, more accurate), more durable, and easier to repair.

Granted, the Bentley is an amazing piece of engineering; I love its ambition and the sheer over-the-top-ness of the car, but life would be horrible if everything were built in that fashion.

ZV

ZV

Any marginally educated human knows all about mass production & the industrial revolution. But people who chase truth in perspective know both the obvious upsides....AND THE ASTONISHING DOWNSIDES.

You buy into only one part of that equation, you loose.

I, for one, refuse to relinquish the distilled nourishment I find in excellence, in individual human genius, in devotion to and pride in quality. And, every day, I also celebrate the history of computer (and other) technology, and the long chronology, in which mass production was pivotal in making it possible for most humans to own some kinda computer.

I am not exactly alone in chasing truth in PERSPECTIVE, and, I am a huge fan of anyone who does.

As I said in MY INITIAL POST, these vehicles are not my style, but that is beside the point!

 

[Fritzo]

Boring and outdated? Seriously???? Is this the net results of formulaic, special effects riddled action movies in 3D? What??????

What is the instrument in yr avatar? Know what rare, first generation Fender Stratocasters and Gibsons go for? AND WHY?

My avatar is an actual photograph of Jimmy Page's 1959 Les Paul taken at his house.

I'm into engineering and automotive design more than anyone I know, but I'm sorry, I just didn't like it that much. You seem to have some kind of personal stake in this thing.

Bentley is a sign of excess, much like Rolls Royce. Sure, everything is handmade and crafted with skill. As a result, it's also expensive, and the increased tolerances from that hand craftsmanship means it's inherently going to be less unreliable and quirky than cars built with robotics.

BTW- old guitars are going for a lot of money because they're rare (Les Pauls weren't very stylish at the time and too expensive) and their aged woods produce unique sounds, not because they were hand crafted. They still make Les Pauls by hand in Nashville Tennessee. My 2005 Les Paul Faded Honeyburst was hand made to my specs when I ordered it from Gibson. However, it's probably not going to be worth $250K some day because they made 1000's of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbU1R4KDymw

 

[Zenmervolt]

sophomoric rambling

You're a liberal arts major, aren't you.

ZV

 

[Virgorising]

My avatar is an actual photograph of Jimmy Page's 1959 Les Paul taken at his house.

I'm into engineering and automotive design more than anyone I know, but I'm sorry, I just didn't like it that much. You seem to have some kind of personal stake in this thing.

Bentley is a sign of excess, much like Rolls Royce. Sure, everything is handmade and crafted with skill. As a result, it's also expensive, and the increased tolerances from that hand craftsmanship means it's inherently going to be less unreliable and quirky than cars built with robotics.

BTW- old guitars are going for a lot of money because they're rare (Les Pauls weren't very stylish at the time and too expensive) and their aged woods produce unique sounds, not because they were hand crafted. They still make Les Pauls by hand in Nashville Tennessee. My 2005 Les Paul Faded Honeyburst was hand made to my specs when I ordered it from Gibson. However, it's probably not going to be worth $250K some day because they made 1000's of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbU1R4KDymw

Wow! The reality of the guitar in the avatar is amazing!

Does it surprise you I feel exaclty the same about Bentleys representing excess? I said in my original post they are NOT MY STYLE.

I loved the documentary for the reasons I delineated....given, my take is we are suffering from an erosion of excellence and human devotion to it in every arena.

Re the early guitars you mention, with the inventions/innovations in solid body he brought, which changed things forever, did anyone care about stylish in Les Paul guitars????

My take is they, and other classic guitars are sought after for reasons beyond rarity. In ways related to why some 18th centry Italian violins and bows are lusted after by top classical musicians. Not to flip at auction for a profit.....cause the sounds they yield are in a class by themselves.

I had no idea they hand made Les Pauls anywhere still by hand! I mainly started learning about him and his genius just before he died.

And, heads up, Look what you chose to custom order and pay for! MADE BY HAND!!!! Was THAT about excess or profligacy????? NO.

 

[Virgorising]

You're a liberal arts major, aren't you.

ZV

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sophomoric rambling

You're a liberal arts major, aren't you.

ZV

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Try to be more careful re attribution in these threads. I never said "sophomoric rambling"....that was your trying to impugn ME.

And please try not to wage cheap/facile assaults on what it appears you do not understand. It doesn't earn much respect.

I am not an undergrad, tho I am a rabid student every minute, far more than when I was an undergrad. I am a writer by profession. Mainly exposition, and covering a vast array of topics. I also counsel people.

 

[Perknose]

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goddammit, monocoque is pronounced "mono-cock" not "mono-coke". and the car has a space-frame, not monocoque. this show was weak.

No, it's not.

Wherever did you get that idea? It is, and always has been, pronounced "mono-coke."

I'd love to see you get laughed at in a French restaurant trying to order "cock" au vin.

 

[Virgorising]

No, it's not.

Wherever did you get that idea? It is, and always has been, pronounced "mono-coke."

I'd love to see you get laughed at in a French restaurant trying to order "cock" au vin.

OMG!:biggrin::wub::thumbsup:

But the gentleman's not having a good ear for languages is, alas, the least of it.

 

[Perknose]

OMG!:biggrin::wub::thumbsup:

But the gentleman's not having a good ear for languages is, alas, the least of it.

I have no quarrel with the rest of the gentleman's post.

 

[Virgorising]

I have no quarrel with the rest of the gentleman's post.

I feel offended, and so, have quarrel. Anyone who tries to trash an illuminating offering of historical provenance....calling it "spewing garbage" offends every part of me. For this, I make no apologies.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Try to be more careful re attribution in these threads. I never said "sophomoric rambling"....that was your trying to impugn ME.

If you honestly thought that was an attempt to make people think that was what you'd actually written, then I may have finally found a buyer for that oceanfront property in Arizona that I've been trying to sell for so long now.

Your writing is riddled with the sort of histrionic phrasing that is the hallmark of unpracticed authors. Given that the video is also prone to excessive fawning over quite pedestrian processes ("Wood veneers? Wow! Just like my IKEA bookshelf!") it is unsurprising that you should be so defensive when rational persons point out the myriad flaws in the video.

And please try not to wage cheap/facile assaults on what it appears you do not understand.

Handcrafting is a wonderful process where one-off items are required or where production numbers are so low that the mass-production techniques which would allow higher quality are not cost effective due to a lack of economies of scale.

However, it does not do to make a virtue of necessity. Hand-welding the chassis is inferior to modern robotic welding in terms of consistency, quality, and, assuming a large enough scale, cost. The only reason to choose extensive hand-welding is because production is so limited that investment in proper robotic welding mechanisms cannot be recovered with reasonable product costs. To pretend that it is somehow reflective of greater quality is nothing more than marketing bullshit.

Persons familiar with engineering recognize that the video is little more than a prolonged advertisement for Bentley. The use of aluminum alloy in engine blocks is so common now that even the most pedestrian Hyundai uses it. Computer-designed cutting patterns to maximize the usable amount of cloth or leather are near-universal in the industry. On a pure technological level, nothing in the video was remarkable. The areas which might have been truly interesting from an engineering perspective (e.g. the design of the cars' complex electronic subsystems, or even the fact that there are compartments specifically designed to hold, and charge, iPads along with dedicated space for the iPads' wireless keyboards) were absent from the video entirely.

Anyone with even the smallest bit of engineering knowledge already knew more than the video described. It just wasn't impressive.

Some things were also flat wrong. Bentley was not the first to use aluminum in an engine. Carl Benz did that in 1901. An Italian company called Aquila Italiana built automobiles with aluminum pistons as early as 1906. The Wright brothers used an aluminum engine block in their "Flyer" airplane in 1903. W.O. was a great engineer, but he certainly did not "basically invent" the aluminum engine; he was merely one of many, many, many engineers experimenting with the material at the time. W.O. was a most talented engineer, that is indisputable, but the "invention" of the aluminum engine had been done years before W.O. used aluminum pistons in 1912.

The assumption that care for one's work and dedication to excellence cannot exist in mass production (or, that it must necessarily exist in a higher degree in handcrafted items) is juvenile and smacks of inexperience with the actual process of crafting useful items in the real world.

I am not an undergrad; tho I am a rabid student every minute, far more than when I was an undergrad. I am a writer by profession. Mainly exposition, and covering a vast array of topics. I also counsel people.

I would generally expect that a professional writer would be practiced enough in his craft that he would avoid habitual misuse of ellipses and capitalization. I would also expect a professional writer to know the difference between "cache" and "cachet."

ZV

 

[Virgorising]

If you honestly thought that was an attempt to make people think that was what you'd actually written, then I may have finally found a buyer for that oceanfront property in Arizona that I've been trying to sell for so long now.

Your writing is riddled with the sort of histrionic phrasing that is the hallmark of unpracticed authors. Given that the video is also prone to excessive fawning over quite pedestrian processes ("Wood veneers? Wow! Just like my IKEA bookshelf!") it is unsurprising that you should be so defensive when rational persons point out the myriad flaws in the video.



Handcrafting is a wonderful process where one-off items are required or where production numbers are so low that the mass-production techniques which would allow higher quality are not cost effective due to a lack of economies of scale.

However, it does not do to make a virtue of necessity. Hand-welding the chassis is inferior to modern robotic welding in terms of consistency, quality, and, assuming a large enough scale, cost. The only reason to choose extensive hand-welding is because production is so limited that investment in proper robotic welding mechanisms cannot be recovered with reasonable product costs. To pretend that it is somehow reflective of greater quality is nothing more than marketing bullshit.

Persons familiar with engineering recognize that the video is little more than a prolonged advertisement for Bentley. The use of aluminum alloy in engine blocks is so common now that even the most pedestrian Hyundai uses it. Computer-designed cutting patterns to maximize the usable amount of cloth or leather are near-universal in the industry. On a pure technological level, nothing in the video was remarkable. The areas which might have been truly interesting from an engineering perspective (e.g. the design of the cars' complex electronic subsystems, or even the fact that there are compartments specifically designed to hold, and charge, iPads along with dedicated space for the iPads' wireless keyboards) were absent from the video entirely.

Anyone with even the smallest bit of engineering knowledge already knew more than the video described. It just wasn't impressive.

The assumption that care for one's work and dedication to excellence cannot exist in mass production (or, that it must necessarily exist in a higher degree in handcrafted items) is juvenile and smacks of inexperience with the actual process of crafting useful items in the real world.



I would generally expect that a professional writer would be practiced enough in his craft that he would avoid habitual misuse of ellipses and capitalization. I would also expect a professional writer to know the difference between "cache" and "cachet."

ZV

Of course I thought it! LOOK AT YOUR ORIGINAL POST!!! How would I have known you misused the quote option? All of it was within a lovely field of blue, yes? MY BF who is an attorney, thought the same.

As for the rest of your being hell bent on mitigating truth in anything about me, I think, for very sad reasons having nothing whatsoever to do with ME, but rather what I seem to bring up in you about YOU.... I just linked this thread to my agent, three of my editors, including the one I have a meeting with later this AM....and several friends.

Boy, I have been paying all those taxes for nothing????

You are mistaking writers who pay serious taxes on our work every year....with Copy Editors, people upon whom we depend for the arcane nuts and bots you actually think writers care about.

And, when I can tomorrow, I will put up visuals, of what you are also incapable of getting about the wall system in question. Including my original to scale plans and isometric drawing. FOR THE RECORD.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Of course I thought it! LOOK AT YOUR ORIGINAL POST!!! How would I have known you misused the quote option? All of it was within a lovely field of blue, yes? MY BF who is an attorney, thought the same.

Then you, and your alleged friend, are both woefully inept and understanding satire. The fact that the words were a derisive generic descriptor should have tipped you off to the fact that they were not intended to be a direct quote. The reasonable user of an internet forum would know, or have reason to know, that such intentional misquotations are common rhetorical flourishes and would react to them as such.

As for the rest of your being hell bent on mitigating truth in anything about me, I think, for very sad reasons having nothing whatsoever to do with ME, but rather what I seem to bring up in you about YOU.... I just linked this thread to my agent, three of my editors, including the one I have a meeting with later this AM....and several friends.

Boy, I have been paying all those taxes for nothing????

You are mistaking writers who pay serious taxes on our work every year....with Copy Editors, people upon whom we depend for the arcane nuts and bots you actually think writers care about.

And, when I can tomorrow, I will put up visuals, of what you are also incapable of getting about the wall system in question. Including my original to scale plans and isometric drawing. FOR THE RECORD.

None of the above is coherent. I am unsurprised.

Nevertheless, the fact remains that the video is little more than advertising fluff dressed up to impress laypersons. It is tripe dressed up with flowery words and musical clichés in a vain attempt to mask its lack of substance.

ZV