Building the Bentley Mulsanne

[Virgorising]

What do you write that you have been paid for? Also, since a picture is worth a thousand words, please post a pic of you writing!

I am a big fan of sardonic humor, so I smiled re the last.

I am published in both fiction and exposition. I lost interest in fiction long ago, but try not to take that early success for granted. I now only write exposition. And, cover a vast, hugely diverse array of arenas and subjects.

I write mainly for periodicals.

I would offer to send samples, but I did the entirely stupid thing couple years back of sending someone on a media site I was posting who kept asking, samples... after he kept asking and then posted his email address.

I then got actually STALKED. It was.....a nitemare. But, had I not endured that terrifying and enervating little interval, I would be even more trusting than I am today.

Did everyone warm me? They did! Did I think they were simply being cynical and paranoid? I DID!

 

[Zenmervolt]

Writing legal briefs, case law delineation and anything related, inherently
arcane and without a pulse or eros/music of any species. There are good reasons people hold legal speak in such contempt.

Relatedly, writing in AMA speak re medical peer review journals also takes no real talent. Clinical stuff never does. Simple protocols to learn.

People hold "legalese" in contempt because many unskilled lawyers misperceive language as a means to obfuscate the truth.

Good legal writing is clear and can be followed by a layman with minimal effort. The impetus behind good legal writing (and good technical/medical writing) is the need to communicate ideas clearly and effectively. Very, very few legal practitioners can write well precisely because those practitioners tend to mistakenly assume that the writing is merely about following "simple protocols" rather than effective communication of ideas and concepts.

The fact that you are unable to find a "pulse" in legal/medical/technical writing evinces your own limitations. Good writing in these fields is filled with passion and flows directly from the writer's love of his craft and calling.

By the way, do not think you have successfully distracted me from the fact that you have consistently failed to respond to the substantive portions of my posts.

ZV

 

[_Rick_]

You are correct that coq and coque are pronounced differently, but even coq is NOT similar to cock. There is no "ah" sound whatsoever, as there is in cock. One's mouth forms very differently when saying cock as opposed to coq. Cock is said with a "loose" mouth, while coq is said with more pursed lips.

Additionally, coq is not that "far removed from coke," as you claim. In fact, it is far closer to coke than it is to cock. One only has to listen to your own links to realize this.

As for my bona fides, if needed, I have been speaking French for more than twice as long as you have. I have lived in France. My father was fluent in French, because his mother, my grandmother (who lived with us growing up), was French.

In fact, she was a survivor of the Titanic, which she boarded in Cherbourg.



:hmm:

Are you consistent in eschewing Anglicized pronunciations? Really? Tell me, how do you regularly pronounce Vincent Van Gogh's name?

I currently live in France

And Vincent Van Gogh clearly has a Dutch name, not a French one. I don't even want to know how that gets bastardized by the foreigners though. If there's a van involved, I don't even want to go there.

As for the ok in coke, that one goes from an ah sound to an o sound, where as the coque -ok is more like the German Koks ok sound, but slightly lighter. But mostly it's flat, where as coke -ok has the oak-variation, somewhat less emphasized than cow. Unless there are people pronouncing it cohk? Never heard that usage ever before.

 

[Virgorising]

Sirrah, I hereby dub you Sir Easily GetBently. :awe:

Does it come with manis and pedis for a lifetime? A modest, but D-Flawless diamond? Faster broadband? Will you be wearing robes? Ermine?

Is the sword involved ceremonial or does it have an EDGE? How steady is yr hand precisely?

Bettah safe than sorry!!!!:whiste:

And who will pay for the the Alexander McQueen I will wear? No, I should wear the robes. Ermine is out, I don do fur. How about a nice brocade? Can I wear my low risers under the robes?

I need details!

 

[Virgorising]

I currently live in France

And Vincent Van Gogh clearly has a Dutch name, not a French one. I don't even want to know how that gets bastardized by the foreigners though. If there's a van involved, I don't even want to go there.

As for the ok in coke, that one goes from an ah sound to an o sound, where as the coque -ok is more like the German Koks ok sound, but slightly lighter. But mostly it's flat, where as coke -ok has the oak-variation, somewhat less emphasized than cow. Unless there are people pronouncing it cohk? Never heard that usage ever before.

Yesss.....the frustration in the face of all that is emerging, burgeons!!!

Will going to Sacre Coeur help? NO. How can I put l’accent aigu in this post?

 

[Zenmervolt]

How certain are you, that they are a troll ?

Is it more of difficulties with communicating across the internet, and an eccentric writing style ?

Rather than any malicious or attention seeking behaviour ?

N.B. I DON'T consider myself particularly good at recognising internet trolls.
Sometimes the mod(s) have identified someone as such, and locked the thread, and said comments. And it has not always been obvious to me why.

But to be 100% clear here, I blame myself for not being too brilliant at recognising such (trolling) activities, unless it is VERY obvious.

It's a gut feeling. I know many writers. They don't butcher the language as this one does.

I also have difficulty believing that any native English speaker could be so thickheaded as to honestly have the sort of informational processing difficulties that this one has had in this thread.

The overall impression is of a person who has built his/her/its sense of self-worth on being a "craftsman" of a very narrow and stereotypical definition. The inability to see any craftsmanship in mass production or technical fields is just not believable. The persona presented is not a whole person but a pretty clear hyperbolic parody of the modern consumer.

No-one but a status-obsessed product of consumer culture could fawn over this puff-piece of a video. A person truly outside of consumer culture would immediately see this for what it is; a glorification of an image designed to engender desire in the viewer. Yet this one claims not to be part of consumer culture. There's a lack of self-awareness that is so staggeringly great that I cannot honestly anyone would be so oblivious as to be unaware of.

Add in the consistent refusal to engage on substantive points and my gut says troll.

ZV

 

[Virgorising]

It's a gut feeling. I know many writers. They don't butcher the language as this one does.

I also have difficulty believing that any native English speaker could be so thickheaded as to honestly have the sort of informational processing difficulties that this one has had in this thread.

The overall impression is of a person who has built his/her/its sense of self-worth on being a "craftsman" of a very narrow and stereotypical definition. The inability to see any craftsmanship in mass production or technical fields is just not believable. The persona presented is not a whole person but a pretty clear hyperbolic parody of the modern consumer.

No-one but a status-obsessed product of consumer culture could fawn over this puff-piece of a video. A person truly outside of consumer culture would immediately see this for what it is; a glorification of an image designed to engender desire in the viewer. Yet this one claims not to be part of consumer culture. There's a lack of self-awareness that is so staggeringly great that I cannot honestly anyone would be so oblivious as to be unaware of.

Add in the consistent refusal to engage on substantive points and my gut says troll.

ZV

For your gut, may I recommend probiotics? Cause, clearly yr entire GI CLIMATE been compromised. Even the PH.

They should help with restoring flora and fauna, but not so much re the self esteem issues.

Sorry, I cease to engage, in the ways you have been reduced to using politics and despotism to try to restore... when my respect for the other has been compromised. I make no apologies for this, given what generates,earns and augments respect in me.

 

[Zenmervolt]

For your gut, may I recommend probiotics? Cause, clearly yr entire GI CLIMATE been compromised. Even the PH.

They should help with restoring flora and fauna, but not so much re the self esteem issues.

Case in point.

ZV

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

Please tell me you are kidding re the above! My God, what kinda humans do you hang out with?

I WOULD NEVER have expected THIS staggering comment from Mr. Deliciously Sardonic!

My heart is now somewhat wounded.

Of course such a statement as mine is impossible to verify over the internet. But if you don't believe me you can easily (albeit anecdotally) verify it yourself, if you truly are doubtful of the veracity of my statement.

I'm delicious. Ooh la la :$

For your gut, may I recommend probiotics? Cause, clearly yr entire GI CLIMATE been compromised. Even the PH.

They should help with restoring flora and fauna, but not so much re the self esteem issues.

It's pH.

 

[Virgorising]

Case in point.

ZV

Indeed! Have you no joy in you? (RHETORICAL:biggrin:.)

Which is why you genuflect at the alter of formal, dry, lacking in eros & incandescence. And so, are threatened and moved to try to diminish anyone who decries the tenets of your necrotic religion, forget sees all of them as polar opposite to being fully alive.

Feels kinda Teutonic to me.

And re this merda: No-one but a status-obsessed product of consumer culture could fawn over this puff-piece of a video. A person truly outside of consumer culture would immediately see this for what it is; a glorification of an image designed to engender desire in the viewer. Yet this one claims not to be part of consumer culture. There's a lack of self-awareness that is so staggeringly great that I cannot honestly anyone would be so oblivious as to be unaware of.

Your unhappiness and self protective cynicism will never pass for discernment, much less even marginally sound judgement. They preclude your experiencing what is there to celebrate. You are also trying to make living in cerebral, doctrinaire isolation....pass for authentic differential intelligence.

Including re the reality of Bentleys.

I am not A PERSONAL fan of Bentleys. Said it in my first post.....along with, in the face of the docu in question that is MOOT. How THAT OR ANY OF THE REST CONTINUE to elude you....is very sad.

Do you own Browning shotgun? Did U vote for W twice or only once?

An item whose success and rep in the marketplace over many decades, can never be fueled by smoke and mirrors. If you did not thrill to the singular quality of these machines in what I linked people to in this thread.....than you are more estranged from Eyes by Proust than even I first imagined.

Do you know the standards any Mfg or individual humans artisans must meet in the UK to qualify for official inclusion by the Windsors? (Again, I am not fan of the royals, cept for the current couple of the moment.)

Just because, were I to have 300K to spend on a vehicle I would never choose a Bentley, in no way changes the reality of those vehicles re quality within the genre of luxury vehicles. I would never want a luxury vehicle!!! What part of any of that continues to elude you? I mean, it's scary that any part does!

 

[Virgorising]

Of course such a statement as mine is impossible to verify over the internet. But if you don't believe me you can easily (albeit anecdotally) verify it yourself, if you truly are doubtful of the veracity of my statement.

I'm delicious. Ooh la la :$



It's pH.

What took me aback re yr original query of me, was it reflected some broad brush bigotry I would never have expected from YOU re Americans!!!

Important you get that... why I was taken aback.

 

[SOFTengCOMPelec]

It's a gut feeling. I know many writers. They don't butcher the language as this one does.

I also have difficulty believing that any native English speaker could be so thickheaded as to honestly have the sort of informational processing difficulties that this one has had in this thread.

The overall impression is of a person who has built his/her/its sense of self-worth on being a "craftsman" of a very narrow and stereotypical definition. The inability to see any craftsmanship in mass production or technical fields is just not believable. The persona presented is not a whole person but a pretty clear hyperbolic parody of the modern consumer.

No-one but a status-obsessed product of consumer culture could fawn over this puff-piece of a video. A person truly outside of consumer culture would immediately see this for what it is; a glorification of an image designed to engender desire in the viewer. Yet this one claims not to be part of consumer culture. There's a lack of self-awareness that is so staggeringly great that I cannot honestly anyone would be so oblivious as to be unaware of.

Add in the consistent refusal to engage on substantive points and my gut says troll.

ZV

Thanks, that explanation makes a lot of sense to me, and sadly, I have to admit, I agree with it.

I have noticed that the mods on this forum, have a much better ("forum life experience"), which seems to greatly help them recognise things, which I am sometimes, completely oblivious to.

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The "old" Rolls Royce concept (my own opinion, but I think I read about it, from a good quality source, which was a book), BEFORE the modern takeovers.
I.e. When Rolls Royce (Cars) was genuinely 100% British

Was/is SALES man-ship and advertising (hype/hyperbole etc etc).

I.e. Don't get me wrong, they were always usually very good quality cars.

But at least one of the founders of the original company, was really a 100% salesman.
Therefore, he (they) created a partially-false (exaggerated) image of what a Rolls-Royce car was (obviously including Bentleys, eventually).

So buyers were buying into the Rolls Royce Car dream, and extraordinarily high prices, for a car which was very, very good (in some/many respects), but VERY poor value for money.

It was much more HYPE than real super duper car.

E.g. They often had 6.75 Litre engines, which "should" have given great acceleration and top speed. But in practice, they gave a leisurely pace, which just about kept up with a common 2 litre car, of the time.

I think they had a reputation for single digit fuel consumptions (MPG) as well (1970s).

Yes they were comfortable, relaxed, big cruisers, but so were considerably cheaper, big luxury cars of the time.

Some people say that once you get to a $50,000 (approx) top of the (normal manufacturer) common car, you get very little real extra value, for a $500,000 marque, rare car.

Unless you think that the top speed of 130..150 MPH (guestimate) of the $50,000 driven on legal speed limited roads, where the limit is at most half the top speed, needs a $500,000 which can do 170..200 MPH top speed ?

Some people want the better acceleration, but I am trying to aim the $50,000 big luxury car at a driver who is not interested in speeding/accelerating all the time.

So if the modern day Bentley is $300,000 , then I think you get a $75,000 car, and $225,000 of advertising hype.

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After me saying the above, I will probably win £999,999,999 somewhere, and then buy a £500,000 car anyway, so I am maybe being hypocritical because I can't afford to splash $500,000/£500,000 on a car, every day. (Only every other day :biggrin.


EDIT: Rolls Royce's, Bentley's and other Marques have many good points as well. Especially the huge value added to people, when they are seen entering/leaving the vehicle. I think I have exaggerated my comments in this post too much. There is more to a car, than just its basic specification.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Which is why you genuflect at the alter of formal, dry, lacking in eros & incandescence. And so, are threatened and moved to try to diminish anyone who decries the tenets of your necrotic religion, forget sees all of them as polar opposite to being fully alive.

Ahh, child. Being alive is opposite lock at over 100 mph. The rush of being just on the edge of adhesion through the apex of a corner and feeling the back end get light as the turbo spools.

The connection between human and machine is divine. To be unable to perceive the connection because it does not take the same form it did 100 years ago is to live life blind. The fact that you perceive such things as "formal, dry, lacking in eros and incandescence" only shows your lack of perception; it does not show the nature of such things.

“The Buddha, the Godhead, resides quite as comfortably in the circuits of a digital computer or the gears of a cycle transmission as he does at the top of the mountain, or in the petals of a flower. To think otherwise is to demean the Buddha - which is to demean oneself.”

ZV

 

[Virgorising]

Ahh, child. Being alive is opposite lock at over 100 mph. The rush of being just on the edge of adhesion through the apex of a corner and feeling the back end get light as the turbo spools.

The connection between human and machine is divine. To be unable to perceive the connection because it does not take the same form it did 100 years ago is to live life blind. The fact that you perceive such things as "formal, dry, lacking in eros and incandescence" only shows your lack of perception; it does not show the nature of such things.

“The Buddha, the Godhead, resides quite as comfortably in the circuits of a digital computer or the gears of a cycle transmission as he does at the top of the mountain, or in the petals of a flower. To think otherwise is to demean the Buddha - which is to demean oneself.”

ZV

I know all about it. I have driven many Vettes. Driven back to school with a carload of kids on the NY State Thruway, often at 124mps.....incredibly, with no downside and did not get stopped! Would I do that again? No, Forget, I already have enough points on my license for speeding tickets, most recently for doing only 76 on the LIE.....to the beach, early in the AM driving my BF's car..... with almost NOBODY on the road! I mostly flirt my way out of them, but the math catches up. One more and I will get a suspension.

I hate sneaky. Speed traps are SNEAKY.

What you continue to miss....and it truly is scary, is your stunning inability to get beyond your FANTASY vehicle to earn BACK precious acuity and experience what is THERE.

 

[SOFTengCOMPelec]

I know all about it. I have driven many Vettes. Driven back to school with a carload of kids on the NY State Thruway, often at 124mps.....incredibly, with no downside and did not get stopped! Would I do that again? No, Forget, I already have enough points on my license for speeding tickets

Your story does not seem to add up, in my experience. Maybe I'm wrong, but I would be VERY surprised if the above is absolutely 100% the truth.

I.e. Either it DID NOT happen = not 100% truthful,
OR the author is not being 100% truthful in their other posts, and to avoid sounding sexist, I will not say why.

 

[Perknose]

I know all about it. I have driven many Vettes.

How many were chevettes?

Driven back to school with a carload of kids on the NY State Thruway, often at 124mps [sic].....[sic]

AMAZING! How fast is that in mph? D:

Plus, how is it that YOU, the world renowned professional writer, can't manage a proper ellipsis?

 

[Pulsar]

Your story does not seem to add up, in my experience. Maybe I'm wrong, but I would be VERY surprised if the above is absolutely 100% the truth.

I.e. Either it DID NOT happen = not 100% truthful,
OR the author is not being 100% truthful in their other posts, and to avoid sounding sexist, I will not say why.

Was your first clue that he claimed to be driving at either 124 meters per second (277 mph), or 124 miles per second (446400 mph) ?

I'm certain that someone who claims such literary competency and love of writing would never make such a pedestrian error as a typo.

 

[Virgorising]

He/she/it is a troll. But sometimes it's fun to have a punching bag.

ZV

And, if anyone needs such to JUST to feel OK, and less impoverished... it is, alas, you. No matter you are shadow boxing/flailing in desperation in the dark, and, not only does nothing land, nothing even changes the molecules around my workstation. You do, tho, increasingly make me sad with your dearth of introspection and psuedo logical premises.

YOU who actually likened machine lamination employing plastic to the challenges inherent in hand veneering with such as fine burls!!!!

What kinda redneck are you?

 

[Virgorising]

Was your first clue that he claimed to be driving at either 124 meters per second (277 mph), or 124 miles per second (446400 mph) ?

I'm certain that someone who claims such literary competency and love of writing would never make such a pedestrian error as a typo.

Another human who thinks professional writers deal with spelling and punctuation? And typos? SERIOUSLY?

Few mos ago, a copy editor whose job it is to deal with those nuts and bolts.... content editors do not either....picked up something so fab I sent her a goody basket of fruit and jams.

Accurate account of that trip back to school with I driving, my friend and partner in crime, Linda in the passenger's seat.....two others ASLEEP IN THE BACK.....AS WE in the front GIGGLED watching THE NUMBERS GO UP TO 124. Every holiday, anyone at school with a car living in the Met Area, would know to get me to drive....only cause I could get us there or back faster than anyone. But, was that good judgement on my part? OR THEIRS? NO. I even get were were lucky nothing negative ever happened as a result.

Linda, now married to Eddie...he drives a black Vette with saddle tan interior, went to Princeton; they have two boy kids....she and I sill talk about all that and giggle.

 

[SOFTengCOMPelec]

Was your first clue that he claimed to be driving at either 124 meters per second (277 mph), or 124 miles per second (446400 mph) ?

I'm certain that someone who claims such literary competency and love of writing would never make such a pedestrian error as a typo.

I had not noticed the MPH typo, but it just does not tie in with their other posts.

E.g. Their difficulty in producing normal sounding English, suddenly vanished.

Most normal/sensible people, would NEVER drive at 124 MPH, with kids in the back, especially NOT women, who tend to be a lot less reckless, as regards such matters.

If it was true, I would be very disgusted with them anyway, and it would be illegal (at least in my country), resulting in a driving ban, and big fine, and maybe worse.

 

[Perknose]

AS WE in the front GIGGLED watching THE NUMBERS GO UP TO 124.

Are you sure that wasn't the radio?

 

[SOFTengCOMPelec]

Are you sure that wasn't the radio?

I like the way that after I challenged them on the story, they suddenly subtly changed their story, to try to make it sound truthful.

If it was true, they would be annoyed that they are being falsely accused.

Earlier when they said their BF's friend had a $300,000 Bentley, exactly the same as this thread, I was thinking (Yeah Yeah ).
I.e. I felt there was a significant risk it was NOT true.

I'm probably in big trouble now, and Channel 13 are going to tell me off ?

They broadcast on FM, 124 Miles Per hour.

 

[Virgorising]

How many were chevettes?



AMAZING! How fast is that in mph? D:

Plus, how is it that YOU, the world renowned professional writer, can't manage a proper ellipsis?

I am now wondering, in yr desperation---you ACTUALLY, GOD HELP US, took the time to make an entire post re a TYPO, WHO IS THAT DESPERATE????---just where the bottom of this barrel you are blindly compelled to scrape is?

And if, when you reach the ocean floor, in this PLUMMET, might you navigate to the Gulf and tell us the truth re if, in any way, it was compromised by the HP debacle?:sneaky:

And, if you find any submerged vehicles there, I think by dint of International Law, those would be yours!!!!! Make sure, tho, to bypass any Bentleys. Cause they, are only about cache and they are crap.:ninja:

 

[Virgorising]

I like the way that after I challenged them on the story, they suddenly subtly changed their story, to try to make it sound truthful.

If it was true, they would be annoyed that they are being falsely accused.

Earlier when they said their BF's friend had a $300,000 Bentley, exactly the same as this thread, I was thinking (Yeah Yeah ).
I.e. I felt there was a significant risk it was NOT true.

I'm probably in big trouble now, and Channel 13 are going to tell me off ?

They broadcast on FM, 124 Miles Per hour.

Nobody who lives truth is annoyed by impoverished, desperate, insecure humans falsely accusing. And, one must have to have respect for someone for upset to be generated.

Heads up; it is my former college roommate, Carol Jane (she has an identical twin sister), married to now,very, very rich Jimmy in Boston who DRIVES THE RED BENTLEY. And, it new, it was under 250K, not 300K. Again, I was in the pretentious wedding in at the Copley Plaza. She wore Vera Wang. I hated the bridesmaid's dresses but I hadda go along. Forget, they were VERY expensive.

It is another friend from college, Linda, whose husband drives the black Vette. And plays tennis. They live in NJ. He comes from Short Hills there, she from Livingston.

And PBS would not even accept you as a paid member. No, they would, as long as they do not read threads on this site.:biggrin:

 

[Virgorising]

Are you sure that wasn't the radio?

I am positive. Hand to God. WHY would that account generate doubt? I am a REALLY good driver, not as if the NY State Thruway is some little dirt road, and common, I was 19. Only part which now amazes me was those asleep in the back seat, only stuns me NOW....and no time I did that off the hook stuff did I get stopped!

Very unfair I do get stopped for doing 76 on the LIE.:ninja: With almost nobody on the road at 6:30 AM on a summer weekend? That.....is just wrong.