Bulldozer "delayed" until September 2011 (Rumor)

[RussianSensation]

Nordic Hardware reports:

Bulldozer delayed again - slated for September

"We will have to wait longer for Intel Ivy Bridge, but the company that needs a refreshment most of all, AMD, has been forced to delay Bulldozer too. The information on the delay varies between sources and we cannot confirm this, but it looks like AMD will do a paper launch of Bulldozer.

AMD's coming architecture on the performance front Bulldozer looks to be delayed once more? At least if we are to believe the latest rumors. Several sources have reported that motherboard manufacturers is still lacking final production samples of Bulldozer and the channels are empty, which should started to fill now that the launch is slated for June/July.

What we see on the new pictures looks to be four whole new models to replace the earlier FX-8130, FX-8110, FX-6110 and FX-4110 and logically it looks like AMD has lowered the bar somewhat with all models, except the top model that has been promoted to FX-8150. The launch date says September, which is anything but encouraging. There is still talk of AMD talking showing Bulldozer at Computex, but this is a company that has the policy of never releasing benchmarks pre-launch.

There are no confirmations today, but something that is for certain is that AMD desperately needs new circuits since Intel will increase its lead with Sandy Bridge-E in Q4, but at least Llano seems to be on track for a Summer launch, which should be able to hold some ground until Bulldozer arrives."

Not looking good since if true, BD will have to face even cheaper S1156 processors and mobos, S1155 and perhaps the upcoming premium LGA2011.

As a side note, it appears that it is pretty much confirmed that Ivy Bridge is also delayed until March-April 2012.

 

[OCGuy]

Not good news for AMD. I read a report saying the yields are just bad.

 

[smartpatrol]

It's looking more and more like Phenom

 

[Nemesis 1]

Nordic Hardware reports:

Bulldozer delayed again - slated for September

"We will have to wait longer for Intel Ivy Bridge, but the company that needs a refreshment most of all, AMD, has been forced to delay Bulldozer too. The information on the delay varies between sources and we cannot confirm this, but it looks like AMD will do a paper launch of Bulldozer.

AMD's coming architecture on the performance front Bulldozer looks to be delayed once more? At least if we are to believe the latest rumors. Several sources have reported that motherboard manufacturers is still lacking final production samples of Bulldozer and the channels are empty, which should started to fill now that the launch is slated for June/July.

What we see on the new pictures looks to be four whole new models to replace the earlier FX-8130, FX-8110, FX-6110 and FX-4110 and logically it looks like AMD has lowered the bar somewhat with all models, except the top model that has been promoted to FX-8150. The launch date says September, which is anything but encouraging. There is still talk of AMD talking showing Bulldozer at Computex, but this is a company that has the policy of never releasing benchmarks pre-launch.

There are no confirmations today, but something that is for certain is that AMD desperately needs new circuits since Intel will increase its lead with Sandy Bridge-E in Q4, but at least Llano seems to be on track for a Summer launch, which should be able to hold some ground until Bulldozer arrives."

Not looking good since if true, BD will have to face even cheaper S1156 processors and mobos, S1155 and perhaps the upcoming premium LGA2011.

As a side note, it appears that it is pretty much confirmed that Ivy Bridge is also delayed until March-April 2012.

OK I see the first graph slide from intel that looks like intel. The other 2 do not look like Intel graphs at all . The BD part thats the time frame AMD always gave. 2h 2011 so hows that delayed. How did nordic do on the lastest Video card rumors NV and AMD . Not very well they were way off . This site really turned into a hit site. Hits for pennies enough hits= dollars

 

[OCGuy]

The BD part thats the time frame AMD always gave. 2h 2011 so hows that delayed.

Search function doesnt lie...

H1 lasts until the end of Q2. As long as you can buy a processor in Q2, like we said, H1 is correct. If it went on sale today would you say that H1 is correct? If so, then yesterday H1 would have been wrong. Your logic does not work.

I would not put it under H2.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2146715

 

[Nemesis 1]

Well search function can lie. Look me and JFAMD went threw this once if it moved to sept. I was correct if its in 1st H 2011 I would be incorrect for what AMD had stated or someone stated. Look At the IB delayed slide. The second one look were IB is placed on that graph. Thats a fake!

 

[Nemesis 1]

. What do we know about IB according to intel.

1) 4 cores is mainstream So were is the performance IB for socket 1155. Likely a 6 core processor . Yet its placed below the the 4 core SB-e that doesn't work.

2) Also look at the SB-E section with clock speeds written out matching the other leaked slide perfectly. Why are not clock speeds given for each processor . We seen real graphs like this when SB was released yet clock speeds were not included

 

[RussianSensation]

. What do we know about IB according to intel.

1) 4 cores is mainstream So were is the performance IB for socket 1155. Likely a 6 core processor . Yet its placed below the the 4 core SB-e that doesn't work.

2) Also look at the SB-E section with clock speeds written out matching the other leaked slide perfectly. Why are not clock speeds given for each processor . We seen real graphs like this when SB was released yet clock speeds were not included

1) We don't know if IB will be a 4-core only variant or there will be 6-core versions too. Also, it is positioned to replace i5/i7 series for S1155. Also i5 2500k for example beats an i7 960 but is technically positioned below in the price range. Similarly 2600k beats an i7 980 in a lot of benchmarks but is positioned way below it. Therefore, you shouldn't necessarily conclude that positioning is only related to performance. It is primarily driven by price in this case.

2) No idea. Are you suggesting these slides are fake then?

 

[drizek]

So...

When you say H1... you're talking about 2011, right?

 

[Axon]

Ugh, enough arguing over semantics about who's right regarding a friggin' release date. When is it coming out?

 

[georgec84]

AMD needs to hurry up. I worry about them having so much trouble with 32 nm.

 

[Dresdenboy]

@delay:
Now I understand where those stock market bubbles originate. Some rumour gets repeated and repeated again, others pick it up (because the "fact" is still there) and this continues until more people are convinced of the rumour (googling it will return thousands of hits) than of the truth.

@32nm:
While some people worry about the maturity of GF's process, others already commented that their AMD's new wafer supply agreement, where they now pay for good dies than for wafers, became nonsense after GF seems to have good yields. 2 minds, 3 opinions.

 

[Arkadrel]

Didnt JFAMD dis-miss this week-old ish rumor, in another thread?
Saying they where on track.

Rumor mill vs Offical spokesperson for AMD.

Hard to pick how to trust more ey?
Rumor mill is "most likely" just pulling things out their arses

 

[podspi]

@delay:
Now I understand where those stock market bubbles originate. Some rumour gets repeated and repeated again, others pick it up (because the "fact" is still there) and this continues until more people are convinced of the rumour (googling it will return thousands of hits) than of the truth.

@32nm:
While some people worry about the maturity of GF's process, others already commented that their AMD's new wafer supply agreement, where they now pay for good dies than for wafers, became nonsense after GF seems to have good yields. 2 minds, 3 opinions.

Rumors are all we have. The agreement suggests yields aren't that great. Rumor suggests there has been some breakthrough at GF, and that while this agreement will save AMD money this year, will cost them next. My hunch is that yields are not great but ok, which would be expected since this is a new process...

Didnt JFAMD dis-miss this week-old ish rumor, in another thread?
Saying they where on track.

Rumor mill vs Offical spokesperson for AMD.

Hard to pick how to trust more ey?
Rumor mill is "most likely" just pulling things out their arses

I don't know which thread you are talking about, but I asked him point-blank (sorry, JFAMD) on SA, and he said "we don't comment on rumors" which is neither a confirmation or a dismissal. If it was true, chances are he wouldn't be able to comment anyway. Hell, he probably isn't supposed to comment even if it isn't true :biggrin:

 

[skipsneeky2]

As long as Bulldozer comes out before august,i will be happy

IF performance is as good as 2600k or better while supporting full 3 way sli with dual 16x of course .
Hope a cpu and motherboard for this isn't to expensive i'll have $900 in august.

If Bulldozer isn't out by then heck ill buy the best overclocking x58 motherboard there is and clock a 970 and call it a day. Cant be bothered dreading the possibility of a delay .

 

[garagisti]

JF, while he mentioned BD launch, always maintained that the desktop parts were Q2 (H1) and server parts were Q3 (H2). JF did indicate on one of the post either here, XS, or SA that the server parts are on schedule (apologies JF, if you don't want me to quote you). Erm, desktop parts not being on schedule? Nope... nothing official from AMD on the same. JF is a server guy, but he'd know about it if he is saying on more than one occassion that it is Q2. 32nm yields are pretty good. They're planning 8-9 million of Llano (yes, just Llano) chippery to be shipped this year.

 

[RussianSensation]

IF performance is as good as 2600k or better while supporting full 3 way sli with dual 16x of course .

AMD should have spent $1 million to optimize BF3 (i.e., like Intel worked with Capcom to optimize Resident Evil 5 for Core i7's multi-threaded architecture). If their 8 core BD spanked 2600k in BF3, that would solidify their positioning.

 

[Elixer]

AMD should have spent $1 million to optimize BF3 (i.e., like Intel worked with Capcom to optimize Resident Evil 5 for Core i7's multi-threaded architecture). If their 8 core BD spanked 2600k in BF3, that would solidify their positioning.

Where do you come up with the $1 million figure ?

 

[drizek]

@Javed_Del Bulldozer's launch got pushed back by about a month, I'll see what I can do while I'm here though

umm....

July?

 

[PreferLinux]

Well, of course Bulldozer is in September: it always was, probably.

Don't understand that, when it has clearly been said that it was Q2? Easy. Talking about two different things. The source for the article is probably talking about BD for server, but the article author(s) are getting confused with desktop. So it looks like it is delayed, whereas it is probably that we now know that the server parts launch Sep, rather than just Q3.

 

[skipsneeky2]

AMD should have spent $1 million to optimize BF3 (i.e., like Intel worked with Capcom to optimize Resident Evil 5 for Core i7's multi-threaded architecture). If their 8 core BD spanked 2600k in BF3, that would solidify their positioning.

Whichever cpu is the better of the trio will be what this rig has, im no royal fan to either team.

Just give me performance and ill buy.

Can't wait for BF3 went out of my way to pick the gtx580 just for the game now its a matter of finding a matching cpu :biggrin:

 

[Nemesis 1]

Ananda is reporting a 1 month delay

http://twitter.com/#!/anandshimpi/status/74973660389183488

I find this odd . I really doubt AMD planned a 2nd qt release even tho I read the offical statement saying so . I suspect it was a ploy to stop SB sales . If its released in july . Ya OK I believe them If its later no way . AMD is good at this . I remember the hammer delays . I doubt IB is delayed that was probably a rumor and photoshop work done a AMD fan troll. At any rate I won my debate with JF

 

[Soleron]

I find this odd . I really doubt AMD planned a 2nd qt release even tho I read the offical statement saying so . I suspect it was a ploy to stop SB sales . If its released in july .

Or it could just be exactly as it appears: AMD thought the B1 stepping would be launch-ready, but they didn't know when they made the Q2 statement it would take another one.

 

[Nemesis 1]

I did say . If its released in July 3rd qt . I believe them later than that than no I don't.

I new arch on a new node tring to make gate first work . They was dreaming.

 

[Joseph F]

If this turns out to be true then [hug] AMD. They haven't been competitive in years and now they pull this [event] on us?

No profanity please.
-ViRGE