Bulldozer ES benchmark is out!

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bridito

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You can start exploding now. AMD clearly said that PIBs would be available 60 to 90 days after June 1, which puts it firmly into August. You won't get any official benchmarks til then.

Official benchmarks most likely yes, but I'm still trying to determine whether the BD at the mid-July Dallas appearance will be a slowed down ES or a full fledged (and speed) release level CPU. I'm rooting for AMD because I really would like to have an option to my SB-E buy! Go AMD! We need competition!
 

piesquared

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What good is competition if consumers don't benefit. From bribery to compiler tricks to compromised benchmarking tools, integrated electronics has made sure the uniformed mass market doesn't recieve the full benefit of open market competition. I can't think of another industry that is manipulated so badly.
 

OCGuy

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What good is competition if consumers don't benefit. From bribery to compiler tricks to compromised benchmarking tools, integrated electronics has made sure the uniformed mass market doesn't recieve the full benefit of open market competition. I can't think of another industry that is manipulated so badly.

This conspiracy post brought to you by piesquared!


I guess even the die-hard AMDers are turning to damage control mode. BD isn't looking promising at this point....
 

TakeNoPrisoners

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If its not good I'll just go intel by the time I get new hardware. I want AMD to succede, but I can only do so much and I won't invest in things that can't handle what demands I will place on my hardware. At least AMD GPU's are top notch and can be very competitive with nVidia at most price points.
 

piesquared

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This conspiracy post brought to you by piesquared!


I guess even the die-hard AMDers are turning to damage control mode. BD isn't looking promising at this point....

Where's the conspiracy? What I posted has all been proven, so hardly a conspiracy.
 

Idontcare

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What good is competition if consumers don't benefit. From bribery to compiler tricks to compromised benchmarking tools, integrated electronics has made sure the uniformed mass market doesn't recieve the full benefit of open market competition. I can't think of another industry that is manipulated so badly.

LOL, its true...I ask myself this everytime I pay my cable bill, my phone bill, and fill up my gas tank.

It's amazing, no matter how many companies offer the same basic services those companies all magically seem to be priced the same, they raise their rates in unison, etc.

Here in PA we have state mandated price control minimums on silly things like the price of a gallon of milk. No matter how much competition is afoot, the price cannot go below the price floor, zero benefit for the consumer.

Can't think of another industry that is manipulated this badly? How about the Oil industry? OPEC ain't exactly Unicef.

What amazes me about Intel is they don't have to play dirty, they have the resources to outspend the competition and beat them fair-and-square with simple good old fashioned over-engineering (USA vs USSR style of outspending gets you to the moon faster than the other guy).

But that isn't good enough for Intel. They got greedy, wanted even more for themselves, and so they do the shady stuff (legal or not, its not something we'd be proud to see our kids doing in school to beat a peer in the science fair) that garners them the attention and loathing from the people who care about corporate governance.

So they can't be happy enough that their super-duper 22nm based 3D xtors are going to enable ridiculous performance/watt metrics with IB...they got to go one step further and really push the boundaries of ethics and ensure everyone remembers Bapco is Intelco. Greed begats arrogance.
 

ShadowVVL

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Im rooting for amd aswell since i like to buy pc in order on of intel amd intel amd ect and my last system was intel.

my plan is to go Ib for low power and amd for workstation. If amd fails hard then I will jump on IB.
Where's the conspiracy? What I posted has all been proven, so hardly a conspiracy.
I dont get whats going on is intel pulling something again?
 

notty22

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AMD has been eating Intels dust since 2006. I googled a couple anantech articles i can actually remember reading when they came out.

x2 am2 launch http://www.anandtech.com/show/2012/5
phenom launch http://www.anandtech.com/show/2378/6

Amd might pull a rabbit out of its hat but the trend is not amd's favor.
Thanks for linking that, some of the article comments are 'rich'. Right in line with the Intel bias, manipulation, compiler issues. LoL at this one : /extreme sarcasm..
Obvious Intel Bias by johnsonx on Monday, November 19, 2007
Everyone knows AMD processors have always been, and will always be, far superior to the crap from Intel. Any article suggesting otherwise is clear evidence of pro-Intel bias, that indeed you all get weekly checks from Intel for the favorable press. The reality is that most Intel processors really don't even work at all; all the supposed PC's sold with Intel processors secretly use AMD processors instead, but again Intel pays off the companies to say they're Intel Inside. Intel has an endless supply of money because of their unfair business practices and the Magic Money Fairy.
 

ViRGE

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Thanks for linking that, some of the article comments are 'rich'. Right in line with the Intel bias, manipulation, compiler issues. LoL at this one : /extreme sarcasm..
Do you know what the amazing part is? There are people who have been accusing AnandTech of being biased for nearly 10 years now. There are a couple of names in the comments that I recognize back from when AT first added comments (which at the time went to the FT Forums).
 

ShadowVVL

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seems like everyone has access to Bulldozer ES'S these days

Either he does or hes vary skilled and spent a long time in photoshop.
 

Ozzu

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This guy seems to have access to Bulldozer ES , not sure we can really trust his findings but never the less : http://obrovsky.blogspot.com/

Interesting, though having never used Super Pi before, I have no idea how to read those results or how they compare. It does look like he's whited out some of the results. I'm not sure why you'd bother doing that if you're leaking all this info to begin with.
 
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Diogenes2

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seems like everyone has access to Bulldozer ES'S these days

Either he does or hes vary skilled and spent a long time in photoshop.


His skill in photoshop is severely lacking..

The loops should show the value of three decimal places for seconds, through all 19 loops.

It's not even a good joke..
 
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Ozzu

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His skill in photoshop is severely lacking..

The loops should show the value of three decimal places for seconds, through all 19 loops.

It's not even a good joke..

Yeah, looking at it and comparing it to the results in the first post, either he's really bad at Photoshop and attempting to make it look like it's scoring insanely well in Super Pi, or he's editing the results as to not give out all the information.

Now, as I said above, why would you even bother doing that? You've already blown NDAs all to hell.
 

Idontcare

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Yeah, looking at it and comparing it to the results in the first post, either he's really bad at Photoshop and attempting to make it look like it's scoring insanely well in Super Pi, or he's editing the results as to not give out all the information.

Now, as I said above, why would you even bother doing that? You've already blown NDAs all to hell.

IIRC OBR is considered legit over on XS.

The silly thing is how many ES seed sites do you think AMD has in the Czech Republic?

He's got to be rather traceable if AMD cared to suppress the leak.

Or maybe he's AMD's equivalent of JC, the sanctioned/orchestrated leaker for all things Intel.
 

tweakboy

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AMD is getting too much attention with its BD and BD E


Intel camp is sorta silent and resting cuz what they release to beat BD will not only beat it but blow it away.

:thumbsup:


6 core SB E vs BD E

who wins ? :wub: :thumbsup:

What about Ivy Bridge ? 8core ? or 6 core ?
thx
 
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AMD is getting too much attention with its BD and BD E


Intel camp is sorta silent and resting cuz what they release to beat BD will not only beat it but blow it away.

:thumbsup:


6 core SB E vs BD E

who wins ? :wub: :thumbsup:

What about Ivy Bridge ? 8core ? or 6 core ?
thx
What happens when Ivy Bridge starts getting a lot of attention? Will it mean it will be smashed by the forgotten AMD?
 

piesquared

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IIRC OBR is considered legit over on XS.

The silly thing is how many ES seed sites do you think AMD has in the Czech Republic?

He's got to be rather traceable if AMD cared to suppress the leak.

Or maybe he's AMD's equivalent of JC, the sanctioned/orchestrated leaker for all things Intel.

Surely that was a typo? Because OBR isn't considered legit anywhere, *especially* on XS.
 

Idontcare

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Surely that was a typo? Because OBR isn't considered legit anywhere, *especially* on XS.

That's why I led with "IIRC"...

When did this change? I thought he was the foremost leaker on all things AMD at 45nm and posted them nearly exclusively on XS, unless I have him mixed up with someone else?

If its not OBR, then who am I thinking of? (haven't been on XS for a while)
 

inf64

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OBR guy is a joke. He is known for such wild claims as : retail Gulftowns will clock like turds(compared to ES),radeon HD4800 series will have 480SP(claimed this a week before launch lol,he even had leaked docs straight from AMD which leaked false info of course),many wild claims about how shitty HD69xx series are going to be etc.

He does not like AMD,that's all.
 

Arkadrel

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OBR guy is a joke. He is known for such wild claims as : retail Gulftowns will clock like turds(compared to ES),radeon HD4800 series will have 480SP(claimed this a week before launch lol,he even had leaked docs straight from AMD which leaked false info of course),many wild claims about how shitty HD69xx series are going to be etc.

He does not like AMD,that's all.

^this he also did that reverse hyperthreading artical... >_>'
It does look like he has something against amd though.

Most of the things he claims to know, turn out to be untrue, or lies, rumors soundlessly based.
Im skeptical he has a Bulldozer.... he probably has Photoshop on his pc though.
 

bryanW1995

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What good is competition if consumers don't benefit. From bribery to compiler tricks to compromised benchmarking tools, integrated electronics has made sure the uniformed mass market doesn't recieve the full benefit of open market competition. I can't think of another industry that is manipulated so badly.

1. OPEC/oil
2. Finance
3. Any industry in any country that's not a shade of yellow in this list

You must be from the North America, Austrlia or western europe. Fair competition the world over is very much the exception, not the rule.
 

podspi

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^this he also did that reverse hyperthreading artical... >_>'
It does look like he has something against amd though.

Most of the things he claims to know, turn out to be untrue, or lies, rumors soundlessly based.
Im skeptical he has a Bulldozer.... he probably has Photoshop on his pc though.


I think that was Theo Though OBR may have chimed in, I don't remember.

I don't trust the guy -- as others have said, he has a poor track record.

Bulldozer reminds me a lot of Hammer. It was agonizing waiting for [the] Hammer to fall. Let's hope it turns out as good!
 
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