Bulldozer press kit pictures

[RobertPters77]

@abwx

For the last time,. You are not answering any of my questions. All you're doing is changing the issue, or bringing up something irrelevant as 'relevant.'

Answer me this. What problem do you have with intel? Tell me why you hate them so much.

I dont hate Amd. I'm disappointed at them for not giving intel any competition. If IBM made intel license the x86 set to Motorala, and they were in amd's current position. My feelings would be the same.

 

[Abwx]

@abwx

For the last time,. You are not answering any of my questions. All you're doing is changing the issue, or bringing up something irrelevant as 'relevant.'

Answer me this. What problem do you have with intel? Tell me why you hate them so much.

I dont hate Amd. I'm disappointed at them for not giving intel any competition. If IBM made intel license the x86 set to Motorala, and they were in amd's current position. My feelings would be the same.

AMD had two critical times in its existence were it could have
grown to a size big enough to be a major player and each time
Intel used trickery to push the competition in a quasi bankrupt.

Oddly , this force them to take extreme risks such as implementing
new uarch along with new processes , a step intel wont take..

But still it s not enough , and their lack of ressources will
create redundant problems like the bulldozer saga since
they simply have not enough worforce to fully UNLOCK (())
their possibilities.

All in all , once a firm has a big grip on the market
you can be assured that it will look too much on the side
of the stock holder and far less on the consumer side ,
generaly abusing its position to sell at overpriced bars
as they are currently doing with their SB chips wich
are sold with as much as a 80% net margin....

Robert, Abwx, you've already been infracted in this thread. Both of you are hereby banned from further posting in this thread.
-ViRGE

 

[AnandThenMan]

Amd is like apple, small and insignificant. It just exists to keep the the FTC off of Microsoft and Intel's asses.

HAHA.

AAPL: market cap- 350.67 Billion
MSFT: market cap - 216.91 Billion
INTC: market cap- 114.73 Billion

Apple is world’s most valuable brand

Just admit it, you are either trolling or have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[notty22]

Seriously, Apple small and insignificant.
Last month........
Apple Overtakes Exxon Becoming World's Most Valuable Company


On topic, I like the effort to make appealing packaging. The metal box is a win.

 

[RobertPters77]

Apple is insignificant in the PC space. They've mastered the art of selling the same or slightly more polished turds over and over again to the same consumer base.

Where windows leads, *nix losers follow.

Robert, Abwx, you've already been infracted in this thread. Both of you are hereby banned from further posting in this thread.
-ViRGE

 

[Imouto]

Let's play hangman.

TR_LL

 

[trollolo]

Let's play hangman.

TR_LL

um, A?

 

[ViRGE]

Robert, Abwx, you've already been infracted in this thread. Both of you are hereby banned from further posting in this thread.
-ViRGE

 

[The Ultimate]

These are not innovations , it s just new instructions that are opimized
for Intel s CPUs pipelines..


This is based on...absence of argument..
There s no CPU that has double the IPC efficency compared
to a less performing one , unless you compare Atom to SB ,
wich would be irrelevant in respect of the comparison s
we re talking about..



Nehalem s uarch , even if it s better performing , is a carbon copy
of a K8 , of wich it borrow much more than the so called P6 origin,
a myth conveniently publicized to hide the evidence of Intel
improving its competitor s concepts...

QPI , the so well named , really a quick path to find a "new" bus,
simply by renaming the Hypertransport bus and using a proprietary
protocol.

Of course , the list doesnt end here...

While there's a striking similarity from die shots comparing Phenom II and Nehalem, they work fundamentally different, Phenom II is no match for Nehalem in a IPC basis, and I do think that QPI is a ripoff of HyperTransport.

Almost forgot. I bought an Amd x4 631 oem from my former place of work. Clock for clock it's still weaker than core 2. Amd can't innovate for s--t.

You are wrong on this one. Phenom II almost matches Penryn in a per clock basis, but remember that those AMD X4 lack of an L3 cache and the impact in performance would be greater. For the current price, it offers more multithreaded performance per buck than any similar priced Intel CPU.

um, A?

LOLL, that made me chuckle like a little kid.

 

[PreferLinux]

You are wrong on this one. Phenom II almost matches Penryn in a per clock basis, but remember that those AMD X4 lack of an L3 cache and the impact in performance would be greater. For the current price, it offers more multithreaded performance per buck than any similar priced Intel CPU.

Nor does the Core 2...

 

[The Ultimate]

Nor does the Core 2...

Really?! So you found out that there's Core 2 processors with disabled L3 caches?! You sir are a genious! Not. Read our posts and educate yourself as you seems to be missing the point here. Penryn was designed to have a L2 cache only, Phenom II not, so Phenom II will perform at its highest when it has its whole L3 cache, hence it makes more sense and is more fair comparing a full chip like Deneb to Penryn and not a neutered Propus against full Penryn like Robert stated. Got the idea? Nice! I wonder how slow Sandy Bridge, Nehalem and Turdozer would perform if they got their L3 cache removed....

 

[StrangerGuy]

Nor does the Core 2..

Bloomfield makes Deneb look like a waste of transistor budget. (731M vs 758M) More IPC, HT, larger and faster L3, triple-channel DDR3 IMC. Only an AMD fanboy will say otherwise.

 

[Lonbjerg]

As i told you , you re using irreal comparisons to prove a losing point, there s no such performances gaps between current CPUs..

The gap between AMD and Intel is larger to day than it was at anytinme during the NetBurst age...so while your defelction is "technically" true...it's not the entire truth.

 

[wahdangun]

wtf all this bickering,

its really doesn't matter even if AMD need higher frequency than intel, as long as its have same TDP, and price and can overclock further its really doesn't matter at all.

just take a look at graphic card market, even tough AMD need more shader core than nvdia to compete it still doesn't matter in fact AMD have more efficient design, with lower price and sometimes can overclock much higher, so maybe AMD right IPC is not relevant if you not counting anything else

 

[JWade]

back on the original topic, those press kits are really nice looking. I have an old cyrix press kit tin that i liked how it looks.

 

[sm625]

AAPL is just a symptom of a credit bubble that has yet to be fully digested by the consumer. 5 years from now its market cap will be less than $75 billion. The pig has to make its way through the python first. I doubt AMD will ever get that big, even if they do manage some sort of breakthrough in gaming, ie they get something like Euclideon and blow everyone else away.

 

[nemesismk2]

I saw a guy buying a $270 motherboard in anticipation of the bulldozer release. I hope it's good for his sake... I can't imagine putting down that much money on an unreleased processor.

I hope so as well or he isnt going to be very happy. I would of waited until I had read some reviews of the bulldozer because with money I am not very brave

 

[nemesismk2]

back on the original topic, those press kits are really nice looking. I have an old cyrix press kit tin that i liked how it looks.

I used to own a Cyrix 2 333, Cyrix 2 233 and a Cyrix 166. Yes I was very cheap in those days

 

[bryanW1995]

I'm not expecting AMD to rock Intel but if it happens that should mean either a price war or a binning war. Considering AMD is just now hitting 32nm and their current top end parts are equivalent to high clocked Core 2 quad- and hex- core chips, if they come within fisticuff distance of Sandybridge that will be pretty impressive.

Best case scenario for AMD is that they are competitive enough that intel releases a 4.2 + ghz SB cpu. No way that BD is going to beat that.

 

[bryanW1995]

This is the MB, right?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131735

What a coincidence, i just got one of them - i need to test CF vs. SLI on the same MB
:whiste:

Well, i have to get to work. i'll check back in a week or so and see what's new

Yet more evidence that oct 12 is the release date.

 

[StrangerGuy]

http://www.overclock.net/rumors-unconfirmed-articles/1134704-pcm-leaked-dutch-fx-8150-review.html

tl;dr version

Cinebench 11.5
FX-8150 = 6.01
2600K = 6.73
2500K = 5.73

Dirt 3 - 1080p HD5970
FX-8150 = 105 avg, 75 min
i7-965 = 93 avg, 71 min

Far Cry 2 - 1080p DX10 max
FX-8150 = 111 avg, 23 min (?!)
i7-965 = 126 avg, 75.2 min

Mafia 2
FX-8150 = 68.3 avg
i7-965 = 76 avg

Power consumption - full load
FX-8150 = 120W

Overclock
5GHz, 1.47V

Edit: oops wrong thread, sigh.

 

[apoppin]

Yet more evidence that oct 12 is the release date.

What is? Is October 12 the "Ides of October"?

Damn ASUS AM3+ MB was defective out of the box. The diagnostic LEDs showed everything was wrong. i tried 3 PSUs, 4 CPUs, all my cabling, multiple HDDs and optical drives, 6 DIMMS of RAM, bare-bonsed it on the bench ...

.. and gave up and ordered a replacement