Burial or Cremation?

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sportage

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If you go cremated, how would your DNA get cloned 3000 years from now?
When some alien race brings you back, memories and all?
Or better known as, those SciFi grave robbers.

Well on second thought, maybe they'd clone and bring you back only to probe you good?
Over and over. With SciFi machinery from some science fiction nightmare.

Yeah, its probably best to get smoked.
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Bateluer

Lifer
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I want to be stuffed and placed in a place of business as a reminder.

Or buried at sea. Either's good.
 

Jeff7

Lifer
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Burial. Cremation isn't natural.
Burial's not really natural either.
"Natural" would mean staying wherever you happen to die until you're eaten by scavengers, or otherwise decay.


(I guess cremation is natural if you died in a fire.)
 

KeithTalent

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Do not really understand how anyone can say burial; what a complete waste of space. Rip out all of my viable organs if I have any, then burn me.

KT
 

JM Aggie08

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Cremation. My remains will then be packed into fireworks, and an epic display will be had, rather than a memorial service.
 

Ionith

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I never understood why some Roman Catholics strongly oppose cremation. I'm curious so I'd like to hear why some people deem it unnatural. I have been to a few funerals, and from my personal experience I will agree that maybe it is strange when there's an urn in place of a casket as it doesn't have the same impact, but I see nothing wrong with it.

Genesis 3:19

By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return
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IronWing

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I never understood why some Roman Catholics strongly oppose cremation. I'm curious so I'd like to hear why some people deem it unnatural. I have been to a few funerals, and from my personal experience I will agree that maybe it is strange when there's an urn in place of a casket as it doesn't have the same impact, but I see nothing wrong with it.

Genesis 3:19

By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return.

Catholic doctrine includes resurrection of the body. At some point, the horn will blow and Jesus will return and raise all the dead in the flesh. The Catholic Church had proscribed cremation until 1963 as it was thought that Catholics might stray from the belief in the resurrection of the body if the body was cremated. The Church's current position is that cremation is acceptable as long as the practice is not asserted as a denial of the belief in the resurrction of the body.
 
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DrPizza

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If you go cremated, how would your DNA get cloned 3000 years from now?
When some alien race brings you back, memories and all?
Or better known as, those SciFi grave robbers.

Well on second thought, maybe they'd clone and bring you back only to probe you good?
Over and over. With SciFi machinery from some science fiction nightmare.

Yeah, its probably best to get smoked.
.
.
In case you're unaware, your memories would be unrecoverable using any conceivable technology within a pretty short amount of time. Cloning you creates, more or less, a twin that's born at a different time. I'm guessing that due to movies, a lot of people think cloning means you create an identical copy of yourself with the same memories - this isn't true, but may be a big reason why people have all sorts of issues related to using cloning technology. If I have a disease that's going to wipe out my heart in about 2 years, by all means, clone my heart and replace it!

When I die, I want any available organs donated, then drag me out into the woods for the coyotes & turkey vultures. Since this is likely illegal in the US, then cremation. Scatter my ashes someplace nice. I would suggest some place where people would be exposed to those ashes (for the gross factor) - but realize that the vast majority of my mass will be turned into water vapor and carbon dioxide. Thanks to the water cycle, weather patterns, etc., and with desalinization plants going on line in the next several decades, within 100-200 years, every breath of air that every human takes will contain some carbon atoms that were in my body. Every beverage that someone drinks will contain some oxygen atoms that were in my body.
 
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Remobz

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I grew up Roman Catholic and _many_ of my relatives have been cremated, including both of my parents, who had Roman Catholic burials and masses and are interred in a Roman Catholic cemetery.

I am not saying that cremation is wrong according to the Roman Catholic Church. All I am saying is that the Roman Catholics where I live seem to frown upon cremations and PREFER to be buried without cremations. My family members PREFER to be buried rather than cremated. Just a matter of personal preference and local tradition while having nothing to do with Church doctrine.
 

Jeff7

Lifer
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When I die, I want any available organs donated, then drag me out into the woods for the coyotes & turkey vultures. Since this is likely illegal in the US, then cremation. Scatter my ashes someplace nice. I would suggest some place where people would be exposed to those ashes (for the gross factor) - but realize that the vast majority of my mass will be turned into water vapor and carbon dioxide. Thanks to the water cycle, weather patterns, etc., and with desalinization plants going on line in the next several decades, within 100-200 years, every breath of air that every human takes will contain some carbon atoms that were in my body. Every beverage that someone drinks will contain some oxygen atoms that were in my body.
So you're going to turn into a homeopathic remedy?





...oh wait, homeopathic remedies aren't statistically likely to contain any of the "active" ingredient.





Catholic doctrine includes resurrection of the body. At some point, the horn will blow and Jesus will return and raise all the dead in the flesh. The Catholic Church had proscribed cremation until 1963 as it was thought that Catholics might stray from the belief in the resurrection of the body if the body was cremated. The Church's current position is that cremation is acceptable as long as the practice is not asserted as a denial of the belief in the resurrction of the body.
Whether it's cremation or decades or centuries of decay, that's an awful lot of entropy reversal to deal with.

Maybe a backup copy gets autosaved at time of death.
 

JM Aggie08

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As a Roman Catholic we have NEVER cremated a body yet. Always a burial. Notice I said, not yet because I am sure cremation would be done under certain extreme circumstances.

My Catholic grandfather passed last year. We had a viewing/rosary, but he was later cremated and buried in a nice little box. Personally, I want to be reduced to ash immediately - the last thing I want is my loved ones to remember me propped up on display.
 

mmntech

Lifer
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I want to be stuffed and placed in a place of business as a reminder.

How about having the flesh boiled off your skull, then have it given to your family. Nobody's going to want such a creepy thing, but they won't be able to throw it away. It'll just get passed down generation to generation. It's like the ultimate fuck you.
 

mnewsham

Lifer
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I am not saying that cremation is wrong according to the Roman Catholic Church. All I am saying is that the Roman Catholics where I live seem to frown upon cremations and PREFER to be buried without cremations. My family members PREFER to be buried rather than cremated. Just a matter of personal preference and local tradition while having nothing to do with Church doctrine.

Then why bring the church into it all? If it's personal preference you mentioning the church or your religion has no bearing on cremation vs. burial, as you said both are accepted by the church. Just seems like you're back tracking from making a stupid comment.

:shrug:
 

alkemyst

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I've always wondered: Is there an standard, accepted means of disposing of cremains? Can they be flushed down a toilet or disposed of with the trash and taken to a landfill?

This is a simple google item. You cannot dispose of cremains anywhere. It's still biological waste and very dusty.

Places like Disney have special teams just to handle idiots dumping their's in rides like Pirates of the Caribbean and the Haunted House.
 
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