Burisma, Hunter, Bribery, Crack cocaine, etc

[dawp]

i'll just leave this here

 

[interchange]

Anonymous sources said Trump said Americans who died in the military are suckers and losers?
Twitter/Facebook: Spread the news!!

Negative article on the Bidens with email leaks?
Twitter/Facebook: Must censor as “misinformation”!!

Multiple sources with firsthand knowledge. They are not anonymous. They are unnamed. The news knows who they are.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Conservatives, always the victims

 

[Commodus]

Anonymous sources said Trump said Americans who died in the military are suckers and losers?
Twitter/Facebook: Spread the news!!

Negative article on the Bidens with email leaks?
Twitter/Facebook: Must censor as “misinformation”!!

On top of what others said about vast differences in the quality of sourcing and the obvious logical holes in the Post story... you do know the "suckers and losers" leak is entirely consistent with what Trump has said publicly, right?

Trump is the man who refused to call McCain a hero because he'd been captured. He's the one who attacked a Gold Star family. He shows open contempt for anyone who died or became a POW, so why would it be a stretch for him to merely make those insults more explicit?

 

[zinfamous]

I like how "anonymous sources," the prevailing standard of generations of dedicated journalism, the only real means of bringing the power of the citizens against the empowered and maintaining legitimate authority over the fragile grip of totalitarianism that our model democratic elections barely mitigate, is now, only over the last 3 years, "the most dangerous threat to democracy!"

The 4, 5 decades of strident rejection of education and the accepted expertise of actual experts that the GOP and their drooling supporters have championed, has brought us to this moment: literally the dumbest humans that have ever walked the earth (I say this because these sheep actively choose to be this fucking stupid, in an era that has never been more enlightened, with boundless access to all that is available from the total history of human knowledge and thought), march in lockstep to whatever weekly bidding their GOP quisling masters tell them. It matters not what they thought last week or the week before, as their brains are perfectly malleable to believe whatever new pile of shit is force-fed down their pie holes with the firehose of daily Trump tweets.

 

[vi edit]

Because I have to write something.
Here's something.

 

[allisolm]

I'm just going to go republican this go round.

As you did last go round.

 

[vi edit]

As you did last go round.

I think it was McConnell himself that said "There's nothing learned from the second kick of the mule".

I guess some people just like getting kicked.

 

[interchange]

I like how "anonymous sources," the prevailing standard of generations of dedicated journalism, the only real means of bringing the power of the citizens against the empowered and maintaining legitimate authority over the fragile grip of totalitarianism that our model democratic elections barely mitigate, is now, only over the last 3 years, "the most dangerous threat to democracy!"

The 4, 5 decades of strident rejection of education and the accepted expertise of actual experts that the GOP and their drooling supporters have championed, has brought us to this moment: literally the dumbest humans that have ever walked the earth (I say this because these sheep actively choose to be this fucking stupid, in an era that has never been more enlightened, with boundless access to all that is available from the total history of human knowledge and thought), march in lockstep to whatever weekly bidding their GOP quisling masters tell them. It matters not what they thought last week or the week before, as their brains are perfectly malleable to believe whatever new pile of shit is force-fed down their pie holes with the firehose of daily Trump tweets.

The principle thing that makes unnamed sources an accepted standard as credible is the track record of those who publish without naming their sources.

Of course, there are social environments where someone's reputation can be easily destroyed in the absence of fact. The social contract is only functional when society generally agrees to uphold it even when it does not work out in their favor. If people organize into tribes and experience no conflict in seeing a competing tribe as untrustworthy no matter what they bring to the table, then facts cease to mean anything. The operational currency becomes power.

Please don't play by those rules. The truth and justice behind your facts only increases your value within your own tribe. What good is that if the other tribe comes in and slaughters you? Or maybe your tribe will be the one that emerges victorious. Either way, there will be a lot of tragedy happening.

You don't need to increase your standing among your tribe. You are a worthless nothing, always have been, and always will be. I am too, and so is everyone else. It's not so bad to know that. It can relieve you of all that pressure. And the unity you gain when you embrace your position as a member of the human race is like nothing else.

 

[Amused]

No metadata = fake emails.

There is a reason the NYPost will not let anyone else see the original data and only released a PDF image of claimed email produced MONTHS after the laptop was supposedly dropped off with no obtainable metadata.

Because it's fucking fake.

This story could be verified in less than a DAY if the NYPost would simply release a copy of the original data.

Why aren't they?

Days after the election, the NYPost will print a retraction. Watch.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I think it was McConnell himself that said "There's nothing learned from the second kick of the mule".

I guess some people just like getting kicked.

its even better when you get other people kicked cuz you dont like those dirty libtards

 

[MomentsofSanity]

This has to sting a little.

Rudy Giuliani's daughter says to vote for Biden and Harris to end Trump's 'reign of terror'

Caroline Giuliani, the daughter of President Donald Trump's personal attorney and former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani, is urging Americans to "end this nightmare" by voting for Democratic nominee Joe Biden and his running mate Kamala Harris.

www.cnn.com

 

[vi edit]

I just wish The Onion would post an article "Rudy Guiliani tests positive for stupid".

And the body of the article is basically "2020 has broke us. We can't compete with reality for stupid headlines. See you some time in 2021. We hope."

 

[Fanatical Meat]

This has to sting a little.

Rudy Giuliani's daughter says to vote for Biden and Harris to end Trump's 'reign of terror'

Caroline Giuliani, the daughter of President Donald Trump's personal attorney and former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani, is urging Americans to "end this nightmare" by voting for Democratic nominee Joe Biden and his running mate Kamala Harris.

www.cnn.com

I thought the same but Rudy is used to it by now she’s been publicly supporting D’s for years

 

[NWRMidnight]

Here we are, a bunch of nerds on a hardware web site, with some of the nerds taking this conspiracy propaganda at face value, ignoring all the knowledge such nerds have when it comes to hard drives and the plausibility of any of this being true. Specially when 99.9% of such nerds knows that the only thing that becomes property of the computer shop in such incidences is the hardware and default, pre-installed software, and the law requires the hard drive to be wiped. Not copied, not distributed. It baffles me that such nerds want to argue that it is plausible that such laptop would appear in a random computer hardware shop clear across the country, 4 years after such emails a written, and Rudi was able to track down this random computer shop with these old emails on them. Also such nerds who believe this, are ignoring their knowledge on how easy emails can be spoofed, made up, and/or doctored.

Come on Nerds, don't be so stupid. (I am referring to the nerds who believe this is legit).. IF you still believe this is legit, you need to turn in your Nerd card, because you clearly have never earned it.

 

[desy]

Here we are, a bunch of nerds on a hardware web site, with some of the nerds taking this conspiracy propaganda at face value, ignoring all the knowledge such nerds have when it comes to hard drives and the plausibility of any of this being true. Specially when 99.9% of such nerds knows that the only thing that becomes property of the computer shop in such incidences is the hardware and default, pre-installed software, and the law requires the hard drive to be wiped. Not copied, not distributed. It baffles me that such nerds want to argue that it is plausible that such laptop would appear in a random computer hardware shop clear across the country, 4 years after such emails a written, and Rudi was able to track down this random computer shop with these old emails on them. Also such nerds who believe this, are ignoring their knowledge on how easy emails can be spoofed, made up, and/or doctored.

Come on Nerds, don't be so stupid. (I am referring to the nerds who believe this is legit).. IF you still believe this is legit, you need to turn in your Nerd card, because you clearly have never earned it.

Exactly lets play the more plausible game and leave the conspiracies to the nuts

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Here we are, a bunch of nerds on a hardware web site, with some of the nerds taking this conspiracy propaganda at face value, ignoring all the knowledge such nerds have when it comes to hard drives and the plausibility of any of this being true. Specially when 99.9% of such nerds knows that the only thing that becomes property of the computer shop in such incidences is the hardware and default, pre-installed software, and the law requires the hard drive to be wiped. Not copied, not distributed. It baffles me that such nerds want to argue that it is plausible that such laptop would appear in a random computer hardware shop clear across the country, 4 years after such emails a written, and Rudi was able to track down this random computer shop with these old emails on them. Also such nerds who believe this, are ignoring their knowledge on how easy emails can be spoofed, made up, and/or doctored.

Come on Nerds, don't be so stupid. (I am referring to the nerds who believe this is legit).. IF you still believe this is legit, you need to turn in your Nerd card, because you clearly have never earned it.

Let’s not forget, aren’t Mac book hard drives encrypted? If so how was this bypassed or did Hunter opt out of the password requirement because he’s a stupid dem?
Aren’t MacBooks serialized? As in wouldn’t it be possible to see what up addresses it has been “seen” at *not so sure of this one*
Couldn’t apple track whom purchased the serialized MacBook? Admittedly this has privacy concerns.

 

[CZroe]

Let’s not forget, aren’t Mac book hard drives encrypted? If so how was this bypassed or did Hunter opt out of the password requirement because he’s a stupid dem?
Aren’t MacBooks serialized? As in wouldn’t it be possible to see what up addresses it has been “seen” at *not so sure of this one*
Couldn’t apple track whom purchased the serialized MacBook? Admittedly this has privacy concerns.

If the laptops were left there for data recovery then passwords would have been a part of the forms.

 

[desy]

That's why its sat in the FBIs hands for a year and NOTHING has been done about it. if it was real you can be assured a Trump admin would have trotted this out AGES ago

 

[Wreckem]

This stuff isn’t real.

There’s an open FBI investigation on this issue, it’s not investigating the Bidens but the Russian Intel ops that created the fake emails and “evidence.” This is clearly the same was what happened in the 2017 French elections were real stuff that was nothing was mixed with fake stuff that reportedly showed wrongdoing.

At this point Rudy is a Russian asset.

 

[emperus]

Far from knowledgeable about Macs but how was this guy able to see the desktop? I think the FBI has a lot of explaining to do in terms of what it knew and what it did with the information. No lawyer but it would seem illegal to take the data off the hard drive whether he owns the laptop because it was left at his shop.

 

[Jhhnn]

Far from knowledgeable about Macs but how was this guy able to see the desktop? I think the FBI has a lot of explaining to do in terms of what it knew and what it did with the information. No lawyer but it would seem illegal to take the data off the hard drive where he owns the laptop because it was left at his shop.

I think the contention that the FBI has such a laptop is pure unmitigated bullshit. There is no proof that it ever existed. FBI policy prevents them calling bullshit.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Far from knowledgeable about Macs but how was this guy able to see the desktop? I think the FBI has a lot of explaining to do in terms of what it knew and what it did with the information. No lawyer but it would seem illegal to take the data off the hard drive where he owns the laptop because it was left at his shop.

Most states and as such repair shop have a surrender policy for abandoned items. Don't pick it up within X amount of time it becomes the property of the store. If whatever the prescribed time period was passed then it's not an issue.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

I think the contention that the FBI has such a laptop is pure unmitigated bullshit. There is no proof that it ever existed. FBI policy prevents them calling bullshit.

Considering it is coming out that it's now being investigated as part of a Russian misinformation campaign there isn't a chance in hell they have/had it before now

 

[vi edit]

Far from knowledgeable about Macs but how was this guy able to see the desktop? I think the FBI has a lot of explaining to do in terms of what it knew and what it did with the information. No lawyer but it would seem illegal to take the data off the hard drive where he owns the laptop because it was left at his shop.

I think it's pretty safe to say that just about anything related to this is bottomless pit of disinformation. I wouldn't try to apply any meaningful level of reason to anything involved here. Best we can do is not spread any more links, bat down anyone that tries to spread it, and hope that the FBI still has enough integrity and autonomy to property investigate and tell us that truth.