Bush: A 'stark reminder' of war

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zendari

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Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: zendari
Those "international" attacks are targeted at foreign governments, not the United States. I'm glad you count a school siezure in Russia somewhere to be the equivalent of a US warship.

At least 2 of those attacks are directly on US soil.

One was the 9 years before 9/11 that I was refering too. You are now equating Oklahoma bombing by an American with al Quada? Nice stretch.

The point of the State dept info was that we are having more terrorist attacks world wide due to Bush's foreign policy. You cannot honestly look at one attack in 1992, one in 2001 and draw any significant statistical significance, you sound like a right wing Fwd:fwd:fwd e-mail and you know it. Stop posting and spare us all.

Yup, because Bush is somehow king of the world...and those terrorists wanted to get back at him so they went after Russian elementary schools.

His job is to keep America safe.


Guess when the 911 hijackers entered the country and planned the entire attack? 1999.
 

Todd33

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: zendari
Those "international" attacks are targeted at foreign governments, not the United States. I'm glad you count a school siezure in Russia somewhere to be the equivalent of a US warship.

At least 2 of those attacks are directly on US soil.

One was the 9 years before 9/11 that I was refering too. You are now equating Oklahoma bombing by an American with al Quada? Nice stretch.

The point of the State dept info was that we are having more terrorist attacks world wide due to Bush's foreign policy. You cannot honestly look at one attack in 1992, one in 2001 and draw any significant statistical significance, you sound like a right wing Fwd:fwd:fwd e-mail and you know it. Stop posting and spare us all.

Yup, because Bush is somehow king of the world...and those terrorists wanted to get back at him so they went after Russian elementary schools.

His job is to keep America safe.


Guess when the 911 hijackers entered the country and planned the entire attack? 1999.

Do you have a point? Come on and say it, don't be a coward - "It's Clinton's fault!". You are like a three year old. Never mind the fact the attacks happened while Bush was in office, ignoring PDBs on vacation after having the FBI warning him and then marginalizing the only guy in the White house with any knowledge about AQ. Never mind all that, he is keeping merica' safe by attacking and occupying an Arab country which is now the training ground to the world's extremist. Maybe you should read up on Afghanistan in the 80s, but I suspect newsmax.com and your other sheeple right wing websites don't care for history.
 

Starbuck1975

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That's a laughable notion, because terror attacks worlwide have increased dramatically since we invaded Iraq (so much so that our government is too embarrassed to release the figures publically).
Please show me some statistics or figures that support your contention.

It is true that terror attacks have increased in Iraq, and to a lesser extent Afghanistan, but that is because both of those regions have become the front lines of this larger scope war...one that has been raging well before America invaded either region.

Let's just face the fact that unilateral unwarranted warfare against the Iraqis and a failure to do right in Afghanistan has not only allowed our enemy to survive, but also reap the benefits of the deepening fissure we've made with our actions.
The fissure was already well established...it was this fissure that provoked the 9/11 attacks...I agree that our actions since 9/11 have not done anything to diffuse the situation.

But then again, I dont think anyone has come up with a viable solution for eradicating Islamic extremism...the western world has allowed this ideology to grow and fester for decades now...and now we are facing the consequences of not engaging this threat sooner.
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: zendari
Those "international" attacks are targeted at foreign governments, not the United States. I'm glad you count a school siezure in Russia somewhere to be the equivalent of a US warship.

At least 2 of those attacks are directly on US soil.

One was the 9 years before 9/11 that I was refering too. You are now equating Oklahoma bombing by an American with al Quada? Nice stretch.

The point of the State dept info was that we are having more terrorist attacks world wide due to Bush's foreign policy. You cannot honestly look at one attack in 1992, one in 2001 and draw any significant statistical significance, you sound like a right wing Fwd:fwd:fwd e-mail and you know it. Stop posting and spare us all.

Yup, because Bush is somehow king of the world...and those terrorists wanted to get back at him so they went after Russian elementary schools.

His job is to keep America safe.


Guess when the 911 hijackers entered the country and planned the entire attack? 1999.

Gee, you mean the 9/11 hijackers were already here yet when your hero george w bush took office he refused to believe that terrorism was the number one threat even after he'd been told so by the departing administration???!

Do you mean to say that even as the threat festered on U.S. shores your hero george w bush ignored it and went on vacation for a MONTH???!

Do you mean to say that as the terrorist plot unfolded your hero george w bush sat like a dunce in a grade school classroom reading My Pet Goat???!

They say people get the government they deserve. That certainly seems to be true in your case, zendari.

Unfortunately, the rest of us are getting the government YOU deserve too.

Clarke: Bush didn't see terrorism as 'urgent'



 

zendari

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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: zendari
Those "international" attacks are targeted at foreign governments, not the United States. I'm glad you count a school siezure in Russia somewhere to be the equivalent of a US warship.

At least 2 of those attacks are directly on US soil.

One was the 9 years before 9/11 that I was refering too. You are now equating Oklahoma bombing by an American with al Quada? Nice stretch.

The point of the State dept info was that we are having more terrorist attacks world wide due to Bush's foreign policy. You cannot honestly look at one attack in 1992, one in 2001 and draw any significant statistical significance, you sound like a right wing Fwd:fwd:fwd e-mail and you know it. Stop posting and spare us all.

Yup, because Bush is somehow king of the world...and those terrorists wanted to get back at him so they went after Russian elementary schools.

His job is to keep America safe.


Guess when the 911 hijackers entered the country and planned the entire attack? 1999.

Gee, you mean the 9/11 hijackers were already here yet when your hero george w bush took office he refused to believe that terrorism was the number one threat even after he'd been told so by the departing administration???!

Do you mean to say that even as the threat festered on U.S. shores your hero george w bush ignored it and went on vacation for a MONTH???!

Do you mean to say that as the terrorist plot unfolded your hero george w bush sat like a dunce in a grade school classroom reading My Pet Goat???!

They say people get the government they deserve. That certainly seems to be true in your case, zendari.

Unfortunately, the rest of us are getting the government YOU deserve too.

Clarke: Bush didn't see terrorism as 'urgent'

They didn't enter the country through Texas. What was he supposed to do, wag his finger at them?

If Clinton put such a high priority on terrorism, well, it seemed to be well below granting pardons to his cronies and his brother. Might have been what he was doing while the USS Cole was being bombed merely 2 months before Bush came into office.
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: zendari


They didn't enter the country through Texas. What was he supposed to do, wag his finger at them?

If Clinton put such a high priority on terrorism, well, it seemed to be well below granting pardons to his cronies and his brother. Might have been what he was doing while the USS Cole was being bombed merely 2 months before Bush came into office.

So as usual your only excuse for this embarassment in the White House is "CLINTON DID IT".

You're as pitiful as bush.

bush was in the White House for eight months before 9/11 and did nothing. bush ignored repeated warnings. Even L. Paul Bremer, bush's point man in Iraq during the high fllying completely corrupt days of the Coalition Provisional Authority said that bush and his administration were ignoring the threat six months before 9/11.

In a speech to a terrorism conference six months before the Sept. 11 attacks, Paul Bremer, now President Bush's point man in Iraq warned: "The new administration seems to be paying no attention to the problem of terrorism. What they will do is stagger along until there's a major incident and then suddenly say, 'Oh my God, shouldn't we be organized to deal with this?' They've been given a window of opportunity with very little terrorism now, and they're not taking advantage of it."

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WTFU already and face reality. Your petty excuses sound as ridiculous as bush's.

Is that you georgie???
 

LunarRay

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Gee... I don't see much Intel doing much terrorist finding here there or anywhere.. That ain't Bush's fault no more than Clinton's.. We are simply not able to find them with the assets we have.
Terrorists blend into the surroundings... In Ireland the IRA look just like the rest of the folks.. and the terrorist is organized.. catch one and another fills that slot..

If you want rid of terrorism get off their radar screen... maybe build a big wall... but they don't do their deeds in Bangladesh when the objective is Monaco so get out of their business and let them deal with their enemy and find a way to insure it ain't you.
 

Mill

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Is it fair to say that it wasn't a particular person's fault? Was there really anyone that wasn't caught off guard? Besides, assigning blame is simply a political ploy. The *real* problem is our response and the institutions we've created to supposedly protect us. The Iraq War was a completely foolish endeavor, and the DHS/TSA are abject failures.

Is this a sign that America is eroding all around? Perhaps we've always thought too highly of ourselves and allowed flowery positive history (like our triumphs in WWII) to overshadow some cold hard truths. We are fallible, we are human, we fvck up, our sh!t stinks too, and it is likely things were never as "rosy" as history -- or our parents/grandparents -- said it was.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't give a damn if Clinton was signing pardons or jerking off midgets on Air Force One, and I don't give a damn if Bush was either. What matters is not assigning blame, but finding how WHY we failed, HOW we failed, and fixing it -- NOW rather than later. I'm tired of playing politics as some type of endgame. The enemy is not just Al-Qaida, but also the poisonous game of attacking ourselves. It shouldn't be about Democrats or Republics or Blowjobs vs. My Pet Goat. It should be about righting a sinking fvcking ship.
 

BBond

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Here's the truth behind the "sudden" breaking of this case...

Bush Admin Accused of Political Opportunism in Lieberman Comments

Meanwhile, the disclosure of the alleged plot is raising questions over the nature of the Bush administration?s reaction to the primary loss of Senator Joseph Lieberman. Just one day before the alleged plot was announced, White House Press Secretary Tony Snow said Lieberman?s defeat signaled Democrats are "[raising] a white flag in the war on terror." And in an unusual conference call with reporters, Vice President Dick Cheney said Democrats believe "that somehow we can retreat behind our oceans and not be actively engaged in this conflict and be safe here at home, which clearly we know we won't be." Critics say the White House?s comments amount to political opportunism because officials were briefed on the alleged plot last week and knew it would soon be disclosed. In an interview with Agence France Press, a Republican congressional aide addressed the alleged plot and said he?d ?rather be talking about this than all of the other things that Congress hasn't done well." A White House official added: "Weeks before September 11th, this is going to play big."

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Typical bush/cheney bullsh!t. When, if ever, will America WTFU?

 

laFiera

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They are banning all liquids, gels, etc from planes because they could be ignited as bombs by terrorists. Yet, I noticed at the airport that they are dumping all these banned items in garbagge bins. Oh boy, I feel really safe now. Maybe the plane won't blow up, but the airport will. yep, fight on terror is the best i've ever seen. OH yes, let me not forget that the borders are still wide open, but oh no, the terrorists couldn't figure that one out. Bush and his cronies are always ahead of them outsmarting them, and foiling all these terror attacks.
Hail to the chief!
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: laFiera
They are banning all liquids, gels, etc from planes because they could be ignited as bombs by terrorists. Yet, I noticed at the airport that they are dumping all these banned items in garbagge bins. Oh boy, I feel really safe now. Maybe the plane won't blow up, but the airport will. yep, fight on terror is the best i've ever seen. OH yes, let me not forget that the borders are still wide open, but oh no, the terrorists couldn't figure that one out. Bush and his cronies are always ahead of them outsmarting them, and foiling all these terror attacks.
Hail to the chief!

There was an article in today's newspaper about the windfall states are making on E-Bay selling the items confiscated at airports like scissors and Swiss Army knives.

I wonder if FDA regulations allow the resale of partially used sports drinks, shampoo, and hair gel?

:roll:

Here's a link to the story at CBS.

Confiscated Airport Items Bring Cash

 
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