Bush blasts previous presidents in order to defend Iraq War, blame for 9/11

[Bitek]

Linky:
Notable excerpts:

"WASHINGTON -- President Bush said today that mistakes made by three of his predecessors, including the Reagan administration's response to the Marine barracks bombing in Lebanon, had emboldened global terrorists and helped set the stage for the 9/11 attacks.

Bush said he was determined not to repeat the pattern by pulling U.S. troops out of Iraq before terrorists are contained and Iraqi forces are able to provide their own security.

"To leave Iraq now would be to repeat the costly mistakes of the past that led to the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001," Bush said in remarks at the Pentagon after a two-hour briefing by Defense Department officials on the status of the U.S. offensive in Iraq and the war on terrorism.

"The terrorists concluded that we lacked the courage and character to defend ourselves, and so they attacked us," said the president, as Vice President Dick Cheney, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and top military officials stood at his side.

Bush did not mention any events during the first Bush administration, such as his father's decision to end the first Gulf War without sending coalition troops on to Baghdad to topple Saddam Hussein's regime.

Falling support and the venom flies. Bush brings checkers to a chess match and can't understand why people are angry how he plays and want to leave the game. Perhaps if we had a competent C.I.Chief, people would be more hopeful and supportive and willing to ride it out. Instead we all see how its gone and where its going. Now we have two options till '08 and they are both bad.

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: zendari
I thought Presidents are usually reluctant to criticize their successors.

Not when it comes to recent democrats. The hatred runs deep and the American people see it for what it is worth.

Bush seems to hate anybody he can possibly blame for his mistakes. I wonder how he really feels about Dad's decision to abandon the Shia to the slaughter by Saddam's hands after goading them to revolt? How many problems could we have avoided if he did the job right the first time instead of abandoning the Iraqis to death and later starvation building up all that resentment now we see in Iraq?

Bush: the "Not Me" president. Maybe he should worry more about the mistakes he has made. Those are the ones he has the power to fix and maybe turn this thing around. Will he? Not likely.

 

[umbrella39]

I was wondering how long it would take him to start playing the BLAME GAME.

HA HA HA

 

[Todd33]

Wasn't it Cheney who arranged the US base in SA, which led to OSL declaring Jihad on us back in 1990?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I wish this surprised me but it doesn't. He is, hands down, the worst president to hold office. The people are finally waking up to this, albeit slowly.

 

[Red Dawn]

It might mean somethinmg if he had any credibility left, uynfortunately for him after the Crock in Iraq he has very little with the majority of the American Public. It just looks like he is getting desperate.

 

[Martin]

Papa never did no wrong! Just like little Sonny...

 

[NoSmirk]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
I wish this surprised me but it doesn't. He is, hands down, the worst president to hold office. The people are finally waking up to this, albeit slowly.

I disagree.. as do many other Americans. I think over time Bush's legacy will be proven to be a positive one on this country and the world as a whole. But only time will prove that. Thats whats wonderful about this country, people with different opinions can become President, etc. I know it wouldn't be like that in your perfect world, but..

 

[TRUMPHENT]

Originally posted by: Todd33
Wasn't it Cheney who arranged the US base in SA, which led to OSL declaring Jihad on us back in 1990?

You are correct sir!.

 

[conjur]

Reagan cut a deal with the "terrorist" state of Iran.

Poppy's placement of U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia post-1991 Gulf War is what got bin Laden's goat (no pun intended ) and got his Al Qaeda organization to focus on attacking us (as he did first in the 1993 WTC bombings.

His own administration did NOTHING to go after the USS Cole suspects. It wasn't officially determined until this admin. was in office that Al Qaeda was behind the attack.

 

[rickn]

Originally posted by: NoSmirk

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
I wish this surprised me but it doesn't. He is, hands down, the worst president to hold office. The people are finally waking up to this, albeit slowly.

I disagree.. as do many other Americans. I think over time Bush's legacy will be proven to be a positive one on this country and the world as a whole. But only time will prove that. Thats whats wonderful about this country, people with different opinions can become President, etc. I know it wouldn't be like that in your perfect world, but..

can you tell us who you were before you were banned?

His unique IP addresses suggest he and ShadesOfGrey are one in the same

 

[rickn]

Originally posted by: Hafen
Linky:
Notable excerpts:

"WASHINGTON -- President Bush said today that mistakes made by three of his predecessors, including the Reagan administration's response to the Marine barracks bombing in Lebanon, had emboldened global terrorists and helped set the stage for the 9/11 attacks.

Bush said he was determined not to repeat the pattern by pulling U.S. troops out of Iraq before terrorists are contained and Iraqi forces are able to provide their own security.

"To leave Iraq now would be to repeat the costly mistakes of the past that led to the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001," Bush said in remarks at the Pentagon after a two-hour briefing by Defense Department officials on the status of the U.S. offensive in Iraq and the war on terrorism.

"The terrorists concluded that we lacked the courage and character to defend ourselves, and so they attacked us," said the president, as Vice President Dick Cheney, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and top military officials stood at his side.

Bush did not mention any events during the first Bush administration, such as his father's decision to end the first Gulf War without sending coalition troops on to Baghdad to topple Saddam Hussein's regime.

Falling support and the venom flies. Bush brings checkers to a chess match and can't understand why people are angry how he plays and want to leave the game. Perhaps if we had a competent C.I.Chief, people would be more hopeful and supportive and willing to ride it out. Instead we all see how its gone and where its going. Now we have two options till '08 and they are both bad.

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: zendari
I thought Presidents are usually reluctant to criticize their successors.

Not when it comes to recent democrats. The hatred runs deep and the American people see it for what it is worth.

Bush seems to hate anybody he can possibly blame for his mistakes. I wonder how he really feels about Dad's decision to abandon the Shia to the slaughter by Saddam's hands after goading them to revolt? How many problems could we have avoided if he did the job right the first time instead of abandoning the Iraqis to death and later starvation building up all that resentment now we see in Iraq?

Bush: the "Not Me" president. Maybe he should worry more about the mistakes he has made. Those are the ones he has the power to fix and maybe turn this thing around. Will he? Not likely.

Bush is a skunk. takes awhile, but eventually the stink sticks

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: NoSmirk

I disagree.. as do many other Americans. I think over time Bush's legacy will be proven to be a positive one on this country and the world as a whole. But only time will prove that. Thats whats wonderful about this country, people with different opinions can become President, etc. I know it wouldn't be like that in your perfect world, but..

So we never heard - who were you before you were banned? I'm thinking maybe Crimson?

 

[cKGunslinger]

You know, I certainly don't like Bush or his policies, but I don't see a whole lot of blame going on in that linked article. He opined that Carter, Reagan, and Clinton didn't respond appropriately to attacks. He didn't mention his father, who *did* go to war in ME and (thankfully) didn't carry the war on to Baghdad. It was a bit tasteless to cite specifics, whether true or not, but I don't get a whole "But it's all their fault!" impression from that blurb.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
You know, I certainly don't like Bush or his policies, but I don't see a whole lot of blame going on in that linked article. He opined that Carter, Reagan, and Clinton didn't respond appropriately to attacks. He didn't mention his father, who *did* go to war in ME and (thankfully) didn't carry the war on to Baghdad. It was a bit tasteless to cite specifics, whether true or not, but I don't get a whole "But it's all their fault!" impression from that blurb.

I don't disagree, though we don't really know what exactly he said. I'll actually go further - although I dislike President Bush and regard him as incompetent and frequently foolhardy, his foreign policy (at least in terms of its approach toward terrorism) is consistent. If the PNAC philosophy is right (which I think it's not), history will show that GWB was right, and the world will be a better place for his aggressiveness. I can't see that happening, but I guess one never knows . . .

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Originally posted by: NoSmirk

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
I wish this surprised me but it doesn't. He is, hands down, the worst president to hold office. The people are finally waking up to this, albeit slowly.

I disagree.. as do many other Americans. I think over time Bush's legacy will be proven to be a positive one on this country and the world as a whole. But only time will prove that. Thats whats wonderful about this country, people with different opinions can become President, etc. I know it wouldn't be like that in your perfect world, but..

Per the polls, more people agree with the fact they are sick of his lies, backpeddling, and general Alfred E Newman mentality. As to the rest of your comment, I won't feed a troll.

 

[dirtboy]

Originally posted by: Hafen
Bush seems to hate anybody he can possibly blame for his mistakes. I wonder how he really feels about Dad's decision to abandon the Shia to the slaughter by Saddam's hands after goading them to revolt? How many problems could we have avoided if he did the job right the first time instead of abandoning the Iraqis to death and later starvation building up all that resentment now we see in Iraq?

Bush: the "Not Me" president. Maybe he should worry more about the mistakes he has made. Those are the ones he has the power to fix and maybe turn this thing around. Will he? Not likely.

You guys are so desperate you'll make anything up! Looks like the propaganda machine is is full force today.

Where exactly does it say he "hates" them???

 

[conjur]

Propaganda? This is propaganda:

"To leave Iraq now would be to repeat the costly mistakes of the past that led to the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001,"

:roll: Sept. 11! Sept. 11! Sept. 11! Sept. 11! Sept. 11! Sept. 11! Sept. 11! Sept. 11! Sept. 11! Sept. 11! Sept. 11! Sept. 11! Sept. 11! Sept. 11! Sept. 11! Sept. 11! Sept. 11! Sept. 11! Sept. 11! Sept. 11! Sept. 11! Sept. 11! Sept. 11! Sept. 11! Sept. 11! Sept. 11!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: dirtboy

Originally posted by: Hafen
Bush seems to hate anybody he can possibly blame for his mistakes. I wonder how he really feels about Dad's decision to abandon the Shia to the slaughter by Saddam's hands after goading them to revolt? How many problems could we have avoided if he did the job right the first time instead of abandoning the Iraqis to death and later starvation building up all that resentment now we see in Iraq?

Bush: the "Not Me" president. Maybe he should worry more about the mistakes he has made. Those are the ones he has the power to fix and maybe turn this thing around. Will he? Not likely.

You guys are so desperate you'll make anything up! Looks like the propaganda machine is is full force today.

Where exactly does it say he "hates" them???

Really, you'd think he'd love them or at least find them rather convenient !

 

[dirtboy]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: dirtboy

Originally posted by: Hafen
Bush seems to hate anybody he can possibly blame for his mistakes. I wonder how he really feels about Dad's decision to abandon the Shia to the slaughter by Saddam's hands after goading them to revolt? How many problems could we have avoided if he did the job right the first time instead of abandoning the Iraqis to death and later starvation building up all that resentment now we see in Iraq?

Bush: the "Not Me" president. Maybe he should worry more about the mistakes he has made. Those are the ones he has the power to fix and maybe turn this thing around. Will he? Not likely.

You guys are so desperate you'll make anything up! Looks like the propaganda machine is is full force today.

Where exactly does it say he "hates" them???

Really, you'd think he'd love them or at least find them rather convenient !

Hate is a powerful word and there's no evidence to support the claim.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
You know, I certainly don't like Bush or his policies, but I don't see a whole lot of blame going on in that linked article. He opined that Carter, Reagan, and Clinton didn't respond appropriately to attacks. He didn't mention his father, who *did* go to war in ME and (thankfully) didn't carry the war on to Baghdad. It was a bit tasteless to cite specifics, whether true or not, but I don't get a whole "But it's all their fault!" impression from that blurb.

As long as he was exercising his 20/20 hindsight, he should hae mentioned that his father should hae done something more then what he did. Clearly it was a mistake for Bush Sr. to encourage revolt in Iraq and then do nothing to help??

 

[outriding]

Maybe Bush should get on the other internet and check out FEMA's website.

Performance of FEMA during other presidents.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
You know, I certainly don't like Bush or his policies, but I don't see a whole lot of blame going on in that linked article. He opined that Carter, Reagan, and Clinton didn't respond appropriately to attacks. He didn't mention his father, who *did* go to war in ME and (thankfully) didn't carry the war on to Baghdad. It was a bit tasteless to cite specifics, whether true or not, but I don't get a whole "But it's all their fault!" impression from that blurb.

As long as he was exercising his 20/20 hindsight, he should hae mentioned that his father should hae done something more then what he did. Clearly it was a mistake for Bush Sr. to encourage revolt in Iraq and then do nothing to help??

So you believe that we should have increased the scope of the first Gulf War? I think that would have probably led us down the same path as this reincarnation has, although we would have had more support from the rest of the world.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: outriding
Maybe Bush should get on the other internet and check out FEMA's website.

http://www.fema.gov/usr/about5.shtm">Performance of FEMA during other presidents.</a>

And that has exactly what to do with teh President's International policies?

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: NoSmirk

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
I wish this surprised me but it doesn't. He is, hands down, the worst president to hold office. The people are finally waking up to this, albeit slowly.

I disagree.. as do many other Americans. I think over time Bush's legacy will be proven to be a positive one on this country and the world as a whole. But only time will prove that. Thats whats wonderful about this country, people with different opinions can become President, etc. I know it wouldn't be like that in your perfect world, but..

Wow. I can't believe how wrong I think you are. Bushes legacy? To start with there will be trillions in deficits to pay back. Trillions in an unfunded drug benefit. A new political landscape of hate and fear that may take decades to undo. A war with Islam that may end up nuclear. An economy that will have willingly shifted its manufacturing base overseas. We are royally screwed for at least 10 years.

Plus the late night talk shows will make fun of Bush for many years as the "President who thought he could do no wrong" as his mistakes come to fruition.
That will be Bushes legacy.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
You know, I certainly don't like Bush or his policies, but I don't see a whole lot of blame going on in that linked article. He opined that Carter, Reagan, and Clinton didn't respond appropriately to attacks. He didn't mention his father, who *did* go to war in ME and (thankfully) didn't carry the war on to Baghdad. It was a bit tasteless to cite specifics, whether true or not, but I don't get a whole "But it's all their fault!" impression from that blurb.

As long as he was exercising his 20/20 hindsight, he should hae mentioned that his father should hae done something more then what he did. Clearly it was a mistake for Bush Sr. to encourage revolt in Iraq and then do nothing to help??

So you believe that we should have increased the scope of the first Gulf War? I think that would have probably led us down the same path as this reincarnation has, although we would have had more support from the rest of the world.

Yes, it would have led us to the path in which we reside today. Bush Sr. stood strong against the PNAC'ians and worked more closely with the UN, heck, Gulf War I was a UN-led mission, IIRC. Taking out Saddam was NOT on the to-do list, it was NOT an objective of the war. We had reachable goals, and when those goals were met, our boys came back home.

The current mess in Iraq, is just that, a complete mess. In fact, what we see today is proof positive Bush Sr. made the right decision. They say the branches don't fall far from the trees, and I can't help but wonder WTF happened to Bush Jr. He isn't anywhere near as intelligent as his father.