Bush catching holy hell

[chrisrod01]

Originally posted by: Lucifer
DUDE BUSH RULES DONT DENY IT HE RULES COME ON WHAT KIND OF THEAD IS THIS LOL?

LOL where did that come from????? If he rules so much why is he getting richer and richer by the day? Also if he rules so much why dont you work for him and follow him everywhere he goes so you can S%%K his #$%%##

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: Lucifer
DUDE BUSH RULES DONT DENY IT HE RULES COME ON WHAT KIND OF THEAD IS THIS LOL?

Not only can they not face the reality that Bush saved thousands of lives before and after the storm, they can't deal with the reality that the mayor and governor have been useless in this emergency. They have mismanaged everything they touched and get zero criticism from the left and a lot of the right. They are also having a lot of trouble dealing with the need for guns to bring the situation under control in New Orleans. Some of the left even criticized the troops entering the area with guns at port arms. You even see the "Oh, my God! They have guns" commentary on this forum.

So you, like the entire Bush administration, don't have a TV set either, Condor?

Both Mayor Nagin and Governor Blanco requested aid IMMEDIATELY and received NONE. They requested aid REPEATEDLY and received NONE. KATRINA IS NATIONAL EMERGENCY. THIS IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. STOP BEING RIDICULOUS ATTEMPTING LAMELY TO DEFLECT BLAME FROM WHERE IT BELONGS -- FEMA AND THE WHITE HOUSE!

Editorial blasts federal response

Editorial blasts federal response

Sunday, September 4, 2005; Posted: 7:21 p.m. EDT (23:21 GMT)

NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- The Times-Picayune of New Orleans printed this editorial in its Sunday edition, criticizing the federal government's response to Hurricane Katrina and calling on every FEMA official to be fired:
An open letter to the President

Dear Mr. President:

We heard you loud and clear Friday when you visited our devastated city and the Gulf Coast and said, "What is not working, we're going to make it right."

Please forgive us if we wait to see proof of your promise before believing you. But we have good reason for our skepticism.

Bienville built New Orleans where he built it for one main reason: It's accessible. The city between the Mississippi River and Lake Pontchartrain was easy to reach in 1718.

How much easier it is to access in 2005 now that there are interstates and bridges, airports and helipads, cruise ships, barges, buses and diesel-powered trucks.

Despite the city's multiple points of entry, our nation's bureaucrats spent days after last week's hurricane wringing their hands, lamenting the fact that they could neither rescue the city's stranded victims nor bring them food, water and medical supplies.

Meanwhile there were journalists, including some who work for The Times-Picayune, going in and out of the city via the Crescent City Connection. On Thursday morning, that crew saw a caravan of 13 Wal-Mart tractor trailers headed into town to bring food, water and supplies to a dying city.

Television reporters were doing live reports from downtown New Orleans streets. Harry Connick Jr. brought in some aid Thursday, and his efforts were the focus of a "Today" show story Friday morning.

Yet, the people trained to protect our nation, the people whose job it is to quickly bring in aid were absent. Those who should have been deploying troops were singing a sad song about how our city was impossible to reach.

We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing. Many who could have been were not. That's to the government's shame.

Mayor Ray Nagin did the right thing Sunday when he allowed those with no other alternative to seek shelter from the storm inside the Louisiana Superdome. We still don't know what the death toll is, but one thing is certain: Had the Superdome not been opened, the city's death toll would have been higher. The toll may even have been exponentially higher.

It was clear to us by late morning Monday that many people inside the Superdome would not be returning home. It should have been clear to our government, Mr. President. So why weren't they evacuated out of the city immediately? We learned seven years ago, when Hurricane Georges threatened, that the Dome isn't suitable as a long-term shelter. So what did state and national officials think would happen to tens of thousands of people trapped inside with no air conditioning, overflowing toilets and dwindling amounts of food, water and other essentials?

State Rep. Karen Carter was right Friday when she said the city didn't have but two urgent needs: "Buses! And gas!" Every official at the Federal Emergency Management Agency should be fired, Director Michael Brown especially.

In a nationally televised interview Thursday night, he said his agency hadn't known until that day that thousands of storm victims were stranded at the Ernest N. Morial Convention Center. He gave another nationally televised interview the next morning and said, "We've provided food to the people at the Convention Center so that they've gotten at least one, if not two meals, every single day."

Lies don't get more bald-faced than that, Mr. President.

Yet, when you met with Mr. Brown Friday morning, you told him, "You're doing a heck of a job."

That's unbelievable.

There were thousands of people at the Convention Center because the riverfront is high ground. The fact that so many people had reached there on foot is proof that rescue vehicles could have gotten there, too.

We, who are from New Orleans, are no less American than those who live on the Great Plains or along the Atlantic Seaboard. We're no less important than those from the Pacific Northwest or Appalachia. Our people deserved to be rescued.

No expense should have been spared. No excuses should have been voiced. Especially not one as preposterous as the claim that New Orleans couldn't be reached.

Mr. President, we sincerely hope you fulfill your promise to make our beloved communities work right once again.

When you do, we will be the first to applaud.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: mc6809e


FEMA or no FEMA, the responsibility for New Orleans rescue and evacuation lies with the national guard under control of Governor Blanco of Louisiana.

FEMA is the federal governments way of trying to help. But they can't command troops or police or civilians to do anything. Military-style operations are at the moment unltimately controlled by Governor Blanco. Gen Honore doesn't answer to Bush. He answers to the Governor.

People seem to have this stupid idea that Bush can just send in the Army and take care of business. But he is not permitted to do that. It is actually illegal.

Confused! Are you a liberal trying to rave about super Blanco doing an excellent job and putting all those military resources in New Orleans, or are a conservative trying to reason why Bush didn't get them there in the teeth of the storm to drown? Please clarify.

NO ONE requested troops DURING the storm. STOP BEING OBTUSE.

It was FIVE DAYS AFTER the storm before troops arrived. Governor Blanco and Mayor Nagin did EVERYTHING in their power but the fact is the response was delayed because their National Guard units have been DECIMATED by the churlish Bush's unnecessary and counter-productive invasion and occupation of Iraq.

 

[conjur]

The latest White House excuse is that most of the top level officials and aides were still on vacation (Cheney in Wyoming doing whatever, Condi in Manhattan catching musicals and buying shoes, some aide off to Greece to get married, etc.)

Excepting the wedding, nice to know where our admin's priorities lie.

 

[BBond]

You "conservatives" better WTFU. You're looking like fools not only to the entire rest of the world and "liberals" but to real conservatives and Republicans as well.

No one is going down with your sinking ship. WTFU and get the hell off.

MR. RUSSERT: Hold on. Hold on, sir. Shouldn't the mayor of New Orleans and the governor of New Orleans bear some responsibility? Couldn't they have been much more forceful, much more effective and much more organized in evacuating the area?

MR. BROUSSARD: Sir, they were told like me, every single day, "The cavalry's coming," on a federal level, "The cavalry's coming, the cavalry's coming, the cavalry's coming." I have just begun to hear the hoofs of the cavalry. The cavalry's still not here yet, but I've begun to hear the hoofs, and we're almost a week out.

Let me give you just three quick examples. We had Wal-Mart deliver three trucks of water, trailer trucks of water. FEMA turned them back. They said we didn't need them. This was a week ago. FEMA--we had 1,000 gallons of diesel fuel on a Coast Guard vessel docked in my parish. The Coast Guard said, "Come get the fuel right away." When we got there with our trucks, they got a word. "FEMA says don't give you the fuel." Yesterday--yesterday--FEMA comes in and cuts all of our emergency communication lines. They cut them without notice. Our sheriff, Harry Lee, goes back in, he reconnects the line. He posts armed guards on our line and says, "No one is getting near these lines." Sheriff Harry Lee said that if America--American government would have responded like Wal-Mart has responded, we wouldn't be in this crisis.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9179790/

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: conjur
The latest White House excuse is that most of the top level officials and aides were still on vacation (Cheney in Wyoming doing whatever, Condi in Manhattan catching musicals and buying shoes, some aide off to Greece to get married, etc.)

Excepting the wedding, nice to know where our admin's priorities lie.

So what are Cheney's and Rice's responsibility in a natural disaster response, conjur. Why don't you tell us?

And how dare somebody plan a wedding during a hurricane! :| They should have known it was going to happen months ago and delayed those plans. :roll:

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: conjur
The latest White House excuse is that most of the top level officials and aides were still on vacation (Cheney in Wyoming doing whatever, Condi in Manhattan catching musicals and buying shoes, some aide off to Greece to get married, etc.)

Excepting the wedding, nice to know where our admin's priorities lie.

The Bush administration is always on vacation. How could that possibly be used as an excuse? But Bush is always fond of telling his worshippers how hard he works, and how hard the work is, and how much hard work they do.

And the fools continue to believe him.

The response to this natural disaster is as piss-poor as the response was to the man-made disaster on 9/11. And if you people don't ALL WTFU, you're going to keep getting more of the same. Because when there is no accountability there is no reason to change, and although Bush and his cronies aren't aware before during or after national emergencies, they are acutely aware of that fact.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: conjur
The latest White House excuse is that most of the top level officials and aides were still on vacation (Cheney in Wyoming doing whatever, Condi in Manhattan catching musicals and buying shoes, some aide off to Greece to get married, etc.)

Excepting the wedding, nice to know where our admin's priorities lie.

So what are Cheney's and Rice's responsibility in a natural disaster response, conjur. Why don't you tell us?

And how dare somebody plan a wedding during a hurricane! :| They should have known it was going to happen months ago and delayed those plans. :roll:

What a surprise. The chicken misses the point again.

Chicken, THEY DIDN'T RETURN FOR DAYS EVEN WHEN THE SCOPE OF THE EMERGENCY WAS ACUTELY APPARENT.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: conjur
The latest White House excuse is that most of the top level officials and aides were still on vacation (Cheney in Wyoming doing whatever, Condi in Manhattan catching musicals and buying shoes, some aide off to Greece to get married, etc.)

Excepting the wedding, nice to know where our admin's priorities lie.

So what are Cheney's and Rice's responsibility in a natural disaster response, conjur. Why don't you tell us?

And how dare somebody plan a wedding during a hurricane! :| They should have known it was going to happen months ago and delayed those plans. :roll:

Ahem...bolded part above. What are you ranting about, he excluded the wedding!

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: conjur
The latest White House excuse is that most of the top level officials and aides were still on vacation (Cheney in Wyoming doing whatever, Condi in Manhattan catching musicals and buying shoes, some aide off to Greece to get married, etc.)

Excepting the wedding, nice to know where our admin's priorities lie.

So what are Cheney's and Rice's responsibility in a natural disaster response, conjur. Why don't you tell us?

And how dare somebody plan a wedding during a hurricane! :| They should have known it was going to happen months ago and delayed those plans. :roll:

Ahem...bolded part above. What are you ranting about, he excluded the wedding!

heh, clearly someone sucks at reading.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: conjur
The latest White House excuse is that most of the top level officials and aides were still on vacation (Cheney in Wyoming doing whatever, Condi in Manhattan catching musicals and buying shoes, some aide off to Greece to get married, etc.)

Excepting the wedding, nice to know where our admin's priorities lie.

So what are Cheney's and Rice's responsibility in a natural disaster response, conjur. Why don't you tell us?

And how dare somebody plan a wedding during a hurricane! :| They should have known it was going to happen months ago and delayed those plans. :roll:

What a surprise. The chicken misses the point again.

Chicken, THEY DIDN'T RETURN FOR DAYS EVEN WHEN THE SCOPE OF THE EMERGENCY WAS ACUTELY APPARENT.

What a surprise. BBond yelling in all caps again like some psycho.

Again, since you didn't address a damn thing I asked:

"So what are Cheney's and Rice's responsibility in a natural disaster response"

Answer the question or STFU with your mindless partisan drivel.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: conjur
The latest White House excuse is that most of the top level officials and aides were still on vacation (Cheney in Wyoming doing whatever, Condi in Manhattan catching musicals and buying shoes, some aide off to Greece to get married, etc.)

Excepting the wedding, nice to know where our admin's priorities lie.

So what are Cheney's and Rice's responsibility in a natural disaster response, conjur. Why don't you tell us?

They're union. Not their job. They belong to what goverment employees refer to as the KMA club. Kiss my ass.

 

[BBond]

PS chicken You're pathetic pandering is obliterating your already ridiculous claim of "liberalism" and the notion of your independent political affiliation.

You are a pathetic joke just like the rest of the Bush worshipers who will excuse EVERYTHING from a criminal incompetent like Bush while Bush demands zero tolerance for people he abandoned during a national emergency of historic proportions.

And PLEASE don't give me that BS about the scope of the emergency affecting the response. KATRINA WAS NO SURPRISE, AND AS TV NEWS CREWS MADE THEIR WAY UNIMPEDED INTO AND OUT OF NEW ORLEANS AND SURROUNDING AREAS THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE ON EARTH OR IN HEAVEN FOR NOT PROVIDING THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF HUMAN BEINGS LEFT BEHIND WITH FOOD, WATER, MEDICINE, AND CLOTHING FROM THE MINUTE THE STORM SUBSIDED!

THERE CAN BE NO POSSIBLE EXCUSE FOR BUSH'S INACTION!

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: conjur
The latest White House excuse is that most of the top level officials and aides were still on vacation (Cheney in Wyoming doing whatever, Condi in Manhattan catching musicals and buying shoes, some aide off to Greece to get married, etc.)

Excepting the wedding, nice to know where our admin's priorities lie.

So what are Cheney's and Rice's responsibility in a natural disaster response, conjur. Why don't you tell us?

And how dare somebody plan a wedding during a hurricane! :| They should have known it was going to happen months ago and delayed those plans. :roll:

Ahem...bolded part above. What are you ranting about, he excluded the wedding!

heh, clearly someone sucks at reading.

:roll:

So why does conjur even bother to mention a wedding if it's excluded and not even relevant to the situation?

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: conjur
The latest White House excuse is that most of the top level officials and aides were still on vacation (Cheney in Wyoming doing whatever, Condi in Manhattan catching musicals and buying shoes, some aide off to Greece to get married, etc.)

Excepting the wedding, nice to know where our admin's priorities lie.

So what are Cheney's and Rice's responsibility in a natural disaster response, conjur. Why don't you tell us?

And how dare somebody plan a wedding during a hurricane! :| They should have known it was going to happen months ago and delayed those plans. :roll:

Ahem...bolded part above. What are you ranting about, he excluded the wedding!

heh, clearly someone sucks at reading.

:roll:

So why does conjur even bother to mention a wedding if it's excluded and not even relevant to the situation?

To see how easily confused you are.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: conjur
The latest White House excuse is that most of the top level officials and aides were still on vacation (Cheney in Wyoming doing whatever, Condi in Manhattan catching musicals and buying shoes, some aide off to Greece to get married, etc.)

Excepting the wedding, nice to know where our admin's priorities lie.

So what are Cheney's and Rice's responsibility in a natural disaster response, conjur. Why don't you tell us?

And how dare somebody plan a wedding during a hurricane! :| They should have known it was going to happen months ago and delayed those plans. :roll:

Ahem...bolded part above. What are you ranting about, he excluded the wedding!

heh, clearly someone sucks at reading.

:roll:

So why does conjur even bother to mention a wedding if it's excluded and not even relevant to the situation?

I don't know, but he "exempted" it using the section I bolded above. You were ranting over an "exempted" item. Why, I don't know.

In opinion: I think your keyboard started typing after the first sentence and disregarded the rest of the post.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: conjur
The latest White House excuse is that most of the top level officials and aides were still on vacation (Cheney in Wyoming doing whatever, Condi in Manhattan catching musicals and buying shoes, some aide off to Greece to get married, etc.)

Excepting the wedding, nice to know where our admin's priorities lie.

So what are Cheney's and Rice's responsibility in a natural disaster response, conjur. Why don't you tell us?

And how dare somebody plan a wedding during a hurricane! :| They should have known it was going to happen months ago and delayed those plans. :roll:

What a surprise. The chicken misses the point again.

Chicken, THEY DIDN'T RETURN FOR DAYS EVEN WHEN THE SCOPE OF THE EMERGENCY WAS ACUTELY APPARENT.

What a surprise. BBond yelling in all caps again like some psycho.

Again, since you didn't address a damn thing I asked:

"So what are Cheney's and Rice's responsibility in a natural disaster response"

Answer the question or STFU with your mindless partisan drivel.

THEIR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO GET THEIR A$$ES THE FVCK BACK TO WASHINGTON TO BE AVAILABLE FOR ANYTHING THEY ARE NEEDED FOR DURING A TIME OF NATIONAL EMERGENCY AS PEOPLE ARE DYING IN THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS! NOT TO REMAIN ON VACATION SHOPPING AND LAUGHING IT UP ON BROADWAY OR DOING WHATEVER THE HELL IT IS CHENEY DOES IN WYOMING OR INSPECTING OIL FIELDS IN ALBERTA!

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: BBond
PS chicken You're pathetic pandering is obliterating your already ridiculous claim of "liberalism" and the notion of your independent political affiliation.

You are a pathetic joke just like the rest of the Bush worshipers who will excuse EVERYTHING from a criminal incompetent like Bush while Bush demands zero tolerance for people he abandoned during a national emergency of historic proportions.

And PLEASE don't give me that BS about the scope of the emergency affecting the response. KATRINA WAS NO SURPRISE, AND AS TV NEWS CREWS MADE THEIR WAY UNIMPEDED INTO AND OUT OF NEW ORLEANS AND SURROUNDING AREAS THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE ON EARTH OR IN HEAVEN FOR NOT PROVIDING THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF HUMAN BEINGS LEFT BEHIND WITH FOOD, WATER, MEDICINE, AND CLOTHING FROM THE MINUTE THE STORM SUBSIDED!

THERE CAN BE NO POSSIBLE EXCUSE FOR BUSH'S INACTION!

The only thing pathetic in here is you with your moronic postings and incessant single- and simple-mindedness in your constant Bush bashing antics and trolling.

Again you don't answer the question but continue to blather in all caps. And you ignore that Bush acted, but keep up your pretense so you can go off the deep end some more.

Go on. Post some more ranting, fuming, spittle-filled, all cap replies dedicated to your sole concern in life so everyone can plainly see just how unhinged an individual you are. It's quite a demonstration.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: conjur
The latest White House excuse is that most of the top level officials and aides were still on vacation (Cheney in Wyoming doing whatever, Condi in Manhattan catching musicals and buying shoes, some aide off to Greece to get married, etc.)

Excepting the wedding, nice to know where our admin's priorities lie.

So what are Cheney's and Rice's responsibility in a natural disaster response, conjur. Why don't you tell us?

And how dare somebody plan a wedding during a hurricane! :| They should have known it was going to happen months ago and delayed those plans. :roll:

Ahem...bolded part above. What are you ranting about, he excluded the wedding!

heh, clearly someone sucks at reading.

:roll:

So why does conjur even bother to mention a wedding if it's excluded and not even relevant to the situation?

To see how easily confused you are.

So do you care to answer my question, since everyone else is doing their very best to dodge and divert from answering it?

 

[maluckey]

Arsebanned,

The Army Corp of Engineers and the EPA are run by the states? They don't OVERSEE the states? Huh. Learn something new every day I suppose

No they don't oversee the States, and they are there as Liaison and as Federal Reps. to ensure compliance with Federal Regulations. Federal Agencies DO NOT HAVE AUTHORITY over state matters. DEA, FBI etc cannot charge anyone under a STATE law. When I worked for a particular agency for eight years, it frustrated the hell out of me that I could not arrest someone for violating a State law, but had to have a Task Force officer present to do the honors if needed. Federal Laws were another matter.

I guess that you do learn something everyday.....

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
So do you care to answer my question, since everyone else is doing their very best to dodge and divert from answering it?

Ask conjur maybe? It's your "opinion" that he inferred something by it even though he "excepted" it in a secondary statement. So he excluded it after he included it...buwhahahahahah! :laugh:

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: conjur
The latest White House excuse is that most of the top level officials and aides were still on vacation (Cheney in Wyoming doing whatever, Condi in Manhattan catching musicals and buying shoes, some aide off to Greece to get married, etc.)

Excepting the wedding, nice to know where our admin's priorities lie.

So what are Cheney's and Rice's responsibility in a natural disaster response, conjur. Why don't you tell us?

They're union. Not their job. They belong to what goverment employees refer to as the KMA club. Kiss my ass.

It's that whole "disconnection from reality" thing.

"Oh, the worst natural disaster in history just occurred? Damn...too bad.

Now, do you have this in a size 7 1/2?"

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
So do you care to answer my question, since everyone else is doing their very best to dodge and divert from answering it?

All I have to say is, it's nice to know that in the event of a natural disaster bigger than 9/11, our leadership just likes to keep the cruise control on.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
So do you care to answer my question, since everyone else is doing their very best to dodge and divert from answering it?

All I have to say is, it's nice to know that in the event of a natural disaster bigger than 9/11, our leadership just likes to keep the cruise control on.

They have plenty of experience with cruise control from 9/11.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: conjur
The latest White House excuse is that most of the top level officials and aides were still on vacation (Cheney in Wyoming doing whatever, Condi in Manhattan catching musicals and buying shoes, some aide off to Greece to get married, etc.)

Excepting the wedding, nice to know where our admin's priorities lie.

So what are Cheney's and Rice's responsibility in a natural disaster response, conjur. Why don't you tell us?

They're union. Not their job. They belong to what goverment employees refer to as the KMA club. Kiss my ass.

It's that whole "disconnection from reality" thing.

"Oh, the worst natural disaster in history just occurred? Damn...too bad.

Now, do you have this in a size 7 1/2?"

Exactly.

"People are dying? People die everyday, what do you want me to do about it? I only work here."

or my favorite

"You have obviously mistook me for somebody who gives a sh-t."