I think I need to buy some Home Depot or Lowe stock the next time Bush has a terror speech. Frankly I'm just tired of Good Ol' boy politcs and hideous foriegn policy from either side of the aisle.
Originally posted by: wchou
What never cease to amaze me is how gullible most people are, they fell for one lie after another and don't even realize it was a lie even when confronted with the truth later on.
They function on short term memory, their long term memory is messed up due to excessive fluoride in drinking water, and even in most of what we eat such as can food, vegetable, meat in the super market.
These guy are not intelligent at all, they're dumbing us down so it's easier for them to control you through the news media which is a brain washing tool for the mass.
People are emotional and make their decision based on that, its not hard to exploit that.
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Fear & Terror speech #911 this morning.
See original transcript and repeat.
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Fear & Terror speech #911 this morning.
See original transcript and repeat.
Jeez, he made 245 "Fear And Terror" speeches in 22 days?
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
11-30-2005 Bush fear speech 1130 this morning.
Rinse and repeat
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Cliff Notes as he spews:
Our National Strategy for Victory in Iraq Our National Strategy for Victory in Iraq Our National Strategy for Victory in Iraq
Rejectionists Rejectionists Rejectionists
The Enemy The Enemy The Enemy
Saddamists Saddamists Saddamists
Terrorists Terrorists Terrorists
Sept 11 Sept 11 Sept 11
Terrorism Terrorism Terrorism
Saddam Saddam Saddam
Jihad jihad Jihad
Muslims Muslims Muslims
Miltants Miltants Miltants
Al Qeada Al Qeada Al Qeada
Rejectionists Rejectionists Rejectionists
The Enemy The Enemy The Enemy
Saddamists Saddamists Saddamists
Extremists Extremists Extremists
Islamic Radicalism Islamic Radicalism Islamic Radicalism
Fanatical Fanatical Fanatical
Sept 11 Sept 11 Sept 11
Rejectionists Rejectionists Rejectionists
The Enemy The Enemy The Enemy
Saddamists Saddamists Saddamists
Our New Enemy Our New Enemy Our New Enemy
Oppression Oppression Oppression
No Time Table No Time Table No Time Table
Terrorism Terrorism Terrorism
Al Qeada Terror plots Al Qeada Terror plots Al Qeada Terror plots
Terrorists Terrorists Terrorists
Coalition Coalition Coalition
Iraqi people Iraqi people Iraqi people
Democracy Democracy Democracy
Victory Victory Victory
Middle East Middle East Middle East
Extremism Extremism Extremism
Taliban Taliban Taliban
Rejectionists Rejectionists Rejectionists
The Enemy The Enemy The Enemy
Our New Enemy Our New Enemy Our New Enemy
Saddamists Saddamists Saddamists
SAMARRA, Iraq -- At a dusty school converted to a military outpost, American soldiers are packing up this week, preparing -- yet again -- to hand most of the security control of this city to Iraqi forces.
It's their third try, and one big problem remains: Only 100 of the 700 police on the city payroll actually show up for work most days, U.S. commanders acknowledge. As President Bush prepares to herald American progress in training Iraqi forces, Samarra is a bitter example of the long road ahead.
U.S. commanders say the plan to soon relinquish the city's largest inner base to the commandos demonstrates the growing competence of Iraqi troops. By next summer, they hope to hand all security duties in Samarra to a local force of 1,200.
But skeptics, including some U.S. soldiers involved in previous handover attempts, point out that this is only the latest effort to put Iraqis in charge of this Sunni Arab city of about 200,000. Twice before over the past two years, police crumbled in the face of insurgent threats.
"If they give it to the cops that are here now, we'll just wind up coming back," said Staff Sgt. Eric Doolittle of Jacksonville, Fla., assigned to the 101st Airborne Division.
In other parts of Iraq, there is more progress toward establishing local forces willing to fight the insurgency -- either in cities such as Baghdad or in the desolate desert plains of Anbar province.
Large Shi'a cities in the south such as Karbala and Nasiriyah are largely in the hands of Iraqi forces, for example. And Najaf, where U.S. troops fought Shi'a militants in some of the war's bloodiest battles, is now quiet and mostly devoid of Americans.
But throughout central and northern Iraq, cities that are either Sunni Arab or ethnically or religiously mixed pose a much more difficult challenge.
In the northern city of Mosul, for example, where police deserted en masse last year, U.S. commanders have laid plans for Iraqi police to retake control in 2006 -- but warn that internal divisions could hamper the force.
In the volatile west, considered the gateway for foreign militants into Iraq, U.S. commanders only this summer started deploying Iraqi army battalions. Some of the just-trained Iraqi soldiers, most of them Shi'as, find themselves patrolling Iraq's most violent Sunni Arab cities three months after learning how to use weapons.
Both Iraqi army and police forces are involved in fighting the insurgency.
According to an Associated Press tally, at least 1,262 Iraqi soldiers and police have been killed since the interim Iraqi government took power April 28. The Iraqi government figure for deaths from March through October is 1,187.
In comparison, more than 550 coalition troops -- mostly Americans -- have died in Iraq since April 28.
In Samarra, Lt. Col. Mark Wald of the 3rd Battalion, 69th Armored Regiment says next week's base handover will double the number of Iraqi Interior Ministry commandos to about 900 and trim the number of U.S. soldiers in the city by about two-thirds, to some 200.
Hundreds more U.S. soldiers will be based on the city outskirts to help if necessary, but Ward says the shift will reduce their exposure to insurgent attacks.
However, some caution that the handover does not necessarily mean fewer U.S. casualties.
In Baghdad, the U.S. command says half the city is currently in the hands of Iraqi forces -- but roadside bombs continue to regularly maim and kill American soldiers. Two U.S. soldiers from Task Force Baghdad were killed yesterday by a roadside bomb.
The Pentagon says Iraqis are taking on a larger role in key spots, and indeed, Iraqis have filled critical positions in some operations.
In a major assault in the violent northern city of Tal Afar in September, Iraqi troops under the command of a handful of U.S. special forces led dangerous raids and kicked down doors.
But while some units have demonstrated their competence, the number of capable Iraqi troops remains relatively few -- something that resonates throughout the country.
U.S. military statistics for Samarra, for example, show the fewest monthly attacks have occurred when two or three Interior Ministry battalions were here in the spring. But the number of attacks rebounded when two battalions pulled out.
In addition, the troops' religious or ethnic makeup also is a problem: Disproportionately few Sunni Arabs serve in the military, leaving many Sunni Arabs believing that Shi'a and Kurdish troops have come to punish them.
"Many Interior Ministry police who are Shi'a don't respect the people," said a teacher in Samarra who wore a traditional Sunni Arab robe and refused to give his name as U.S. soldiers patrolled his neighborhood. "Some Interior Ministry police think that the people of Samarra help the terrorists, and they hate them."
Yet the military points to some signs of hope.
Insurgent attacks in Samarra have dropped by about two-thirds this month to between one to two attacks a day from a high of more than seven a day in January. Commanders say that is partly a result of searches of every home and better military tactics, such as more hidden observation posts.
But some soldiers attribute the decline in attacks to a clan feud, which led to violence between the groups instead of against U.S. troops.
And some remain deeply skeptical about the potential of the police, who now conduct few patrols. When told about the Interior Ministry's plans to hand the city over to local police in the summer, one American soldier burst into laughter while another slowly shook his head.
An Interior Ministry colonel, who identified himself only as a member of the Jabouri tribe for fear of insurgent reprisal, described the local police force as "very bad."
U.S. officials say they are better prepared this time. They point to the paramilitary commandos, generally acknowledged to be a capable force that could serve as a backstop if insurgent attacks spike.
"I'm not worried," said Wald, the battalion commander. "The training of the Iraqi police force will continue ... and as the situation and Iraqi forces improve, I see less of a U.S. presence in Samarra."
Interesting. Last I read (it was mentioned on Meet The Press about 2 weeks ago) is that a whole two battalions are fully ready to fight on their own (something like 700 soldiers).In a speech defending his policy, Bush said that Iraqi forces have not always performed well in combat but have made substantial progress in the past year.
"As the Iraqi forces grow more capable, they are increasingly taking the lead in the fight against the terrorists," the president told a supportive audience at the U.S. Naval Academy. "Our goal is to train enough Iraqi forces so they can carry the fight against the terrorists."
Bush's speech did not break new ground or present a new strategy. Instead, it was intended to bring together in one place the administration's arguments for the war and explain its strategy on a military, economic and political track. The president's address was accompanied by the release of a 35-page White House document titled "National Strategy for Victory in
Iraq."
"Americans should have a clear understanding of this strategy," Bush said. He said the document was an unclassified version of the strategy that was being pursued in Iraq.
Bush said that Iraqis are stepping forward to provide security for their embattled country, torn by suicide bombings, kidnappings and other violence. "Iraqi forces have made real progress," the president said. "We will stay as long as necessary to complete the mission. If our military leaders there tell us we need more troops, I will send them."
He said that more than 120 army and police combat battalions are ready to fight on their own, while 80 other Iraqi battalions are fighting side by side with coalition forces.
Originally posted by: conjur
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051130/ap_...0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--
Interesting. Last I read (it was mentioned on Meet The Press about 2 weeks ago) is that a whole two battalions are fully ready to fight on their own (something like 700 soldiers).In a speech defending his policy, Bush said that Iraqi forces have not always performed well in combat but have made substantial progress in the past year.
"As the Iraqi forces grow more capable, they are increasingly taking the lead in the fight against the terrorists," the president told a supportive audience at the U.S. Naval Academy. "Our goal is to train enough Iraqi forces so they can carry the fight against the terrorists."
Bush's speech did not break new ground or present a new strategy. Instead, it was intended to bring together in one place the administration's arguments for the war and explain its strategy on a military, economic and political track. The president's address was accompanied by the release of a 35-page White House document titled "National Strategy for Victory in
Iraq."
"Americans should have a clear understanding of this strategy," Bush said. He said the document was an unclassified version of the strategy that was being pursued in Iraq.
Bush said that Iraqis are stepping forward to provide security for their embattled country, torn by suicide bombings, kidnappings and other violence. "Iraqi forces have made real progress," the president said. "We will stay as long as necessary to complete the mission. If our military leaders there tell us we need more troops, I will send them."
He said that more than 120 army and police combat battalions are ready to fight on their own, while 80 other Iraqi battalions are fighting side by side with coalition forces.
Wow.
But, hey, frame it properly and have the paid shills in the media scream "VICTORY" from the top of their lungs and there you have it!
Interesting. Last I read (it was mentioned on Meet The Press about 2 weeks ago) is that a whole two battalions are fully ready to fight on their own (something like 700 soldiers).
Imagine that, the Insurgency who doesn't have any of that would kick the Iraqi Armies ass. I wonder what the difference is, maybe a willingness to fight for what they believe in whether it is right or wrong? I think if those opposed to the Insurgency were as bold and commited as the Insurgents they would kick the Insurgents ass because as the Dub and his handlers have stated those who are against the insurgency vastly out number the Insurgents.Originally posted by: TRUMPHENT
Interesting. Last I read (it was mentioned on Meet The Press about 2 weeks ago) is that a whole two battalions are fully ready to fight on their own (something like 700 soldiers).
700 soldiers is only one battalion. Iraq's military still doesn't have a supply system, command and control, staff, officer and NCO cadre, retention rate, reputation, results, its own combat support units such as medical units etc. Wthout massive US support, the new Iraqi military would be whipsawed by the insurgency.
Originally posted by: TRUMPHENT
Wthout massive US support, the new Iraqi military would be whipsawed by the insurgency.
Originally posted by: OrByte
I am not usually one of those people that like to compare Bush to Hitler or anything. But this latest speech was just appalling.
-The back drop of the soldiers
-Bush at the podium staring down at everyone
-The BIG "PLAN FOR VICTORY" sign
it was surreal.
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: OrByte
I am not usually one of those people that like to compare Bush to Hitler or anything. But this latest speech was just appalling.
-The back drop of the soldiers
-Bush at the podium staring down at everyone
-The BIG "PLAN FOR VICTORY" sign
it was surreal.
Only thing missing was small moustache.