Bush Has High Approval Rating...

[HendrixFan]

According to Zogby, Bush's approval rating is 63%, which is almost a 30% decline from about a year ago. Not a good sign. Also, only 53% would re-elect him. Something that is also on the decline and surely to drop as the economy struggles.

Bear in mind that Clinton's highest approval rating was during the Senate trial for removal from office. Nearly 70%. That means public support for him was highest when it looked like he might get ousted, and the people decided they didnt want to lose him. Clinton also led Bush Jr in polling 63% to 35% when asked who they would vote for IF Clinton could have a third term, this was also by Zogby, who had polls showing a 50/50 split for Bush and Gore.

 

[Moonbeam]

Well how about those are insecurities, Jelly?

 

[josphII]

as for clintons high approval rating - that was due to the economy. there are so many dimwits in this country that think clinton was actually responsible for the booming economy - thus his approval rating was very high. the fact that Bush was able to beat gore in 2000 and still have 67% approval rating one year after 9/11 says a lot.

 

[josphII]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The Republicans are the party of fear. National defense, drug wars, national security, communists in our soup, terrorists in our Wheaties, the Iraqi in the closet, we're becoming a nation of moral decay. What ever people fear you'll find a Republican campaigning on that cause. Democrats have the impossible task of taking the higher road. When there's a threat, real or imagined, the chimps climb their trees and scream Republicans save us.

simply put - hilarious! the republicans are the party of COMMON SENSE! maybe you think we should turn a blind eye to drugs, our national security, and the VERY REAL threats that we face by osama bin laden types and iraq. republicans campaign on fear??!! you gotta be kidding me. FEAR has been the democrats life blood for as long as i can remember! democrats try to scare the old into believeing their social security will run out if they vote republican, they try to convince you that your prescription drug prices will tripple if you vote republican, they tell you large corporations are out to get you, oh and to minorities - fear the system, and fear police because they're out to get you! take away these FICTIOUS fears and the democratic party would cease to exist.

 

[transluko]

Originally posted by: Deeko
Yea but its going down, not up

correct.
there's typical republican thinking, ignore the facts, hope for it to turn out alright.

 

[Nemesis77]

Originally posted by: Tominator
AP says Bush has high approval rating!

I guess this forum's Liberals are full of squat as usual when it comes to Bush and his adminintration. It seems the American Public is solidly behind him.

Hitler also had high approval-ratings.

[Flamesuit = On]

D'oH! I was too slow

 

[Nemesis77]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Jellomancer
By the way, how is that War on Terror going? Are we winning? Losing? I'd love to know.

I would have to say things are in our favor.

Didn't CIA just say that actions of USA had done nothing to remove the causes of terrorism, quite the contrary in fact.

 

[bGIveNs33]

Originally posted by: Nemesis77

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Jellomancer
By the way, how is that War on Terror going? Are we winning? Losing? I'd love to know.

I would have to say things are in our favor.

Didn't CIA just say that actions of USA had done nothing to remove the causes of terrorism, quite the contrary in fact.

I doubt that. Do you have a link?

 

[Nemesis77]

Originally posted by: bGIveNs33

Originally posted by: Nemesis77

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Jellomancer
By the way, how is that War on Terror going? Are we winning? Losing? I'd love to know.

I would have to say things are in our favor.

Didn't CIA just say that actions of USA had done nothing to remove the causes of terrorism, quite the contrary in fact.

I doubt that. Do you have a link?

Link

 

[bGIveNs33]

Much appreciated. I am suprised the CIA would make a statement like that, especially without offering a solution. If you want to critisize, you should have a better solution.

 

[UltraQuiet]

Didn't CIA just say that actions of USA had done nothing to remove the causes of terrorism, quite the contrary in fact.

Where did the article you linked to say that?

 

[XZeroII]

At least Bush is better than the alternative...


I invented War

 

[XZeroII]

no wait...

I was on the committee that approved the project to go ahead and create War.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: Tominator

Originally posted by: Fausto1

Originally posted by: Tominator
Moonbeam

Do you ever think for yourself? You are reciting nearly word for word the Democrat party line for this election. An election that reeks of desparation!

Pot....kettle. Kettle....pot.

You haven't had an original thought tonight, you're just posting the words of other and then embellishing with variations of "Liberal suck!! Yeah!!". It's pathetic, really. Yell as loud and long as you want, you still only get one vote....just like the rest of us.

And for the record, if you're so fired up about politics, why don't you go expend this energy somewhere useful instead of ranting on your tiny electronic soap box to us, the Anandtech community? While you're busy with your various tantrums, I'm volunteering my time and energy directly to insure that my representatives stay in office. If all you do is vote every year, I humbly suggest you shut it.

Drop dead sheethead! It's the BIG GAME. Unlike the Superbowl or the World Series THIS happens to mean something to our future.

You must be a Liberal as this type of attack is their signature. They CANNOT discuss topics relevant to the election as they get buried in opinion and facts that just make too much sense to bear.

There are hundreds registered on AnandTech that have never voted and have no idea the consequences.

LMAO!! Have you ever really listened to yourself? You sound like an angry little Limbaugh clone. "This type of attack is the signature of the Liberal children.....if one of them approaches you on your way home from school and tries to talk to you about social issues, you tell him that you're not allowed to talk to people like him. Then run home and tell your parents!"

I might add that anyone that thinks they have an origional thought is simply ignorant of others. We are not that unique. Humans gather together with those of like opinion and THAT is how we survive and do things.

Hahahahah!!! Even better! You just admitted that you're a little GOP sheep and can't think for yourself!! You just sit there and regurgitate the conservative dogma over and over to make yourself feel better about the world. That's priceless.

I didn't see any indication that you were actually involved in politics either beyond your juvenile rantings here. So I say again: put up or shut up.

 

[Nemesis77]

Originally posted by: DaveSohmer

Didn't CIA just say that actions of USA had done nothing to remove the causes of terrorism, quite the contrary in fact.

Where did the article you linked to say that?

Well, for starters the article is titled

CIA concerned US war on terror is missing root causes

and it also says

The US Central Intelligence Agency has warned that US counterterrorist operations around the world may not eliminate the threat of future deadly attacks because they fail to address the root causes of terrorism, according to newly released documents.

and

"While we are striking major blows against al-Qaeda -- the preeminent global terrorist threat, the underlying causes that drive terrorists will persist," it said.

and

"Several troublesome global trends -- especially the growing demographic youth bulge in developing nations whose economic systems and political ideologies are under enormous stress -- will fuel the rise of more disaffected groups willing to use violence to address their perceived grievances," added the agency.

 

[UltraQuiet]

Originally posted by: Nemesis77

Originally posted by: DaveSohmer

Didn't CIA just say that actions of USA had done nothing to remove the causes of terrorism, quite the contrary in fact.

Where did the article you linked to say that?

Well, for starters the article is titled

CIA concerned US war on terror is missing root causes

and it also says

The US Central Intelligence Agency has warned that US counterterrorist operations around the world may not eliminate the threat of future deadly attacks because they fail to address the root causes of terrorism, according to newly released documents.

and

"While we are striking major blows against al-Qaeda -- the preeminent global terrorist threat, the underlying causes that drive terrorists will persist," it said.

and

"Several troublesome global trends -- especially the growing demographic youth bulge in developing nations whose economic systems and political ideologies are under enormous stress -- will fuel the rise of more disaffected groups willing to use violence to address their perceived grievances," added the agency.

Again I will ask you. Where does it say that our operations are "contrary" to our goals.

 

[UNCjigga]

Both parties suck. What happened to this big show of bipartisanship that was supposed to follow 9/11??? I think it lasted for like 3 weeks, and then it fizzled and died. I think we're the most divided now since the 1994 GOP revolution led by Newtie. The Republicans are all tripping over their shoelaces trying to rally behind a leader concerned mostly with terrorism and Iraq. What happened to "Its the economy, stupid?" What happened to "America First"? And don't even get me started on the Democrats. This party wouldn't know leadership if they were enslaved. Tom Daschle is the dictionary definition of asshat. If he can't push his personal agenda to become the Dems top candidate for 2004, then he'll just stop anyone trying to get anything done. Its periods like this when the two-party system just sucks! :disgust:

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
clinton hated the military so much he proposed the biggest increase in pentagon spending since 1984

he raised military pay and health care funding in the military, such hate indeed.

wonder how much bush sr cut the military? quite a lot. get over it.

Which major spending increase was proposed by clinton? The 90s was a decade of military downsize.

http://www.cnn.com/2000/US/08/09/defense.bill/

I wonder what party was behind this.

'Unrequested programs'
While Clinton applauded the pay raise and a provision that allows military retirees older than 65 to get prescription drug benefits, he criticized Congress for approving "a host of unrequested programs at the expense of other core government activities."

The president did not cite specific examples of excess spending. But Arizona Sen. John McCain and Texas Sen. Phil Gramm, both Republicans, said during Senate debate over the bill that it included more than $7 billion in "outrageous pork-barrel spending" that was not requested by the Pentagon.

They cited a long list of special projects requested by legislators, ranging from $1.5 million for research on chronic fatigue syndrome to $4 million for desert tortoise research in California.

Clinton also objected to provisions classifying $1.8 billion in spending, including $1.1 billion for operations in the Balkans and over Iraq, as emergency supplemental funding for the 2000 budget year.

He said the bill also failed to fund a key chemical weapons destruction facility in Russia, and fails to provide the requested funding level for a joint strike fighter and an amphibious ship program.

I was in the military during the 90's and I know that not many people cared for clinton.

As far as Bush not being able to push anything thru congress, could this be because of the democratic leadership in the senate. Will that majority leader let anything go to vote, other than what he wants to go thru. No, I don't think so. He is the one man I hold directly responsible. I hope that the republicans can get control of the senate, it'd help out this country alot. Did you see the democrats campaigning in florida yesterday doing their typical campaigning. Trying to get the immigrants to vote democrat, saying that these hiatians would get citizenship if they would vote for them. What would you expect from these bottom feeders.

KK

 

[JellyBaby]

Originally posted by: bGIveNs33
Much appreciated. I am suprised the CIA would make a statement like that, especially without offering a solution. If you want to critisize, you should have a better solution.

The CIA is an intelligence service. Don't ask them to get involved in setting policy. That's too scary to contemplate. Sure, some of them may offer suggestions and I see no problem with that. And they do hint in that piece why foreign terrorism is directed our way.

I'm very glad to see some of them are honest and possess an "agenda" of serving the country. Hopefully, even with the Bush administration all but outright telling them to lie to promote war in the Mid East, they'll continue to tell Congress the facts.

 

[Nemesis77]

Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
Again I will ask you. Where does it say that our operations are "contrary" to our goals.

Oh for crying out loud. Do you think that people who oppose USA because they perceive that USA is meddling in to affairs of others (like Bin Laden beef with US troops in Saudi Arabia) will givy up because USA doing the exact same thing that causes them to become terrorists?

The operations are against your goals (which I believe is elimination of international terrorism) if it "misses the root causes" and if "underlying causes that drive terrorists will persist". Your operations have done nothing to address the "root causes". It fails to deal with the cause, it just deals with the symptoms. And in this case, dealing with the symptoms might make the cause alot more worse.

Anyone with a half a brain will see that "war on terrorism" might very well be similar to pouring gasoline to fire when it comes to terrorism. Why do Al-Qaida and others muslim organisation like it oppose USA? Because they think US interferes with muslim affairs. How do you think they view War of Afganistan, war against Iraq etc. etc.? They see it as the exact same thing that they have been opposing for years.

 

[esso]

Originally posted by: Nemesis77

Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
Again I will ask you. Where does it say that our operations are "contrary" to our goals.

Oh for crying out loud. Do you think that people who oppose USA because they perceive that USA is meddling in to affairs of others (like Bin Laden beef with US troops in Saudi Arabia) will givy up because USA doing the exact same thing that causes them to become terrorists?

The operations are against your goals (which I believe is elimination of international terrorism) if it "misses the root causes" and if "underlying causes that drive terrorists will persist". Your operations have done nothing to address the "root causes". It fails to deal with the cause, it just deals with the symptoms. And in this case, dealing with the symptoms might make the cause alot more worse.

Anyone with a half a brain will see that "war on terrorism" might very well be similar to pouring gasoline to fire when it comes to terrorism. Why do Al-Qaida and others muslim organisation like it oppose USA? Because they think US interferes with muslim affairs. How do you think they view War of Afganistan, war against Iraq etc. etc.? They see it as the exact same thing that they have been opposing for years.

Amen.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: DaveSohmer

Originally posted by: Nemesis77

Originally posted by: DaveSohmer

Didn't CIA just say that actions of USA had done nothing to remove the causes of terrorism, quite the contrary in fact.

Where did the article you linked to say that?

Well, for starters the article is titled

CIA concerned US war on terror is missing root causes

and it also says

The US Central Intelligence Agency has warned that US counterterrorist operations around the world may not eliminate the threat of future deadly attacks because they fail to address the root causes of terrorism, according to newly released documents.

and

"While we are striking major blows against al-Qaeda -- the preeminent global terrorist threat, the underlying causes that drive terrorists will persist," it said.

and

"Several troublesome global trends -- especially the growing demographic youth bulge in developing nations whose economic systems and political ideologies are under enormous stress -- will fuel the rise of more disaffected groups willing to use violence to address their perceived grievances," added the agency.

Again I will ask you. Where does it say that our operations are "contrary" to our goals.

No need to duck, those shots were clearly aimed over your head!

Trying to get rid of terrorism? Need to get rid of the cause, no?

 

[Kanalua]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Uh... that's cuz Clinton SUCKED as a president and Bush is actually getting something done.

nik

true.

 

[fluxquantum]

i love these political threads.