Bush hides behind the families whose sons he got killed in Iraq

[SuperTool]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/23/bush.caskets/index.html

 

[KK]

Where'd you pull that title and topic summary from? Your ass?

KK

 

[SuperTool]

Touched a nerve?

 

[DoubleL]

It isn't working

 

[Pennstate]

I don't understand the privacy argument. It's not like the names of the deceased were written in big letters on the coffins.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: Pennstate
I don't understand the privacy argument. It's not like the names of the deceased were written in big letters on the coffins.

The privacy arguement is that the Bush admin wants to keep these images private to themselves and reduce the US casualties to just a name and rank in an obituary.

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: Pennstate
I don't understand the privacy argument. It's not like the names of the deceased were written in big letters on the coffins.

The privacy arguement is that the Bush admin wants to keep these images private to themselves and reduce the US casualties to just a name and rank in an obituary.

Did Bush tell you this personally or did you get it from the same place you pulled the thread title from?

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: Pennstate
I don't understand the privacy argument. It's not like the names of the deceased were written in big letters on the coffins.

The privacy arguement is that the Bush admin wants to keep these images private to themselves and reduce the US casualties to just a name and rank in an obituary.

Did Bush tell you this personally or did you get it from the same place you pulled the thread title from?

Not everyone here gets their talking points from the GOP. Run along now. I got the thread title the same place Bush got his justification for war from

 

[InfectedMushroom]

The regulation for not showing pictures of the coffins has been in effect since the first bush was in office '91, however this is the first administration to actually put it in effect.

In my opinion it is their way of hiding the human toll of this war from the American population. Seeing the name or list of how many US soldiers is not quite as powerfull as seein the rows of coffins ariving weekly.

bush to me seems more of gutless piece of sh1t for not having attended any of the funerals for any of these soldiers. he could take 1 day from his long vacations to pay his respects for those that fight based on his choices. nothing more....

 

[burnedout]

It seems as if some of the images released to "thememoryhole.org" might not actually be the caskets containing the remains of those killed in Iraq:

NOTE TO EDITORS : n04-059


Columbia Crew Mistakenly Identified As Iraqi War Casualties

Many news organizations across the country are mistakenly identifying the flag-draped caskets of the Space Shuttle Columbia's crew as those of war casualties from Iraq.

Editors are being asked to confirm that the images used in news reports are in fact those of American casualties and not those of the NASA astronauts who were killed Feb.1, 2003, in the Columbia tragedy.

An initial review of the images featured on the Internet site www.thememoryhole.org shows that more than 18 rows of images from Dover Air Force Base in Delaware are actually photographs of honors rendered to Columbia's seven astronauts.

News organizations across the world have been publishing and distributing images featured on the web site.

NASA

 

[Klixxer]

Doesn't really matter, this is a war, even though it was declared over a long time ago, the flowers turned into bullets and every day someones father, son, brother, sister, mother or daughter die in Iraq, that is only counting those who matters, not the Iraqis, the ones who are supposed to be liberated.

Soon the power will be turned over to the Iraqis, erm, no, not for the security or law enforcement, not for the legal system of course, but the, eh, power.

Thank god the Iraqis are now liberated so they can follow ehhhh, well someone else than Saddam that they don't want to follow.

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: Pennstate
I don't understand the privacy argument. It's not like the names of the deceased were written in big letters on the coffins.

The privacy arguement is that the Bush admin wants to keep these images private to themselves and reduce the US casualties to just a name and rank in an obituary.

Did Bush tell you this personally or did you get it from the same place you pulled the thread title from?

Not everyone here gets their talking points from the GOP. Run along now. I got the thread title the same place Bush got his justification for war from

Tenett?

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: Pennstate
I don't understand the privacy argument. It's not like the names of the deceased were written in big letters on the coffins.

The privacy arguement is that the Bush admin wants to keep these images private to themselves and reduce the US casualties to just a name and rank in an obituary.

Did Bush tell you this personally or did you get it from the same place you pulled the thread title from?

Not everyone here gets their talking points from the GOP. Run along now. I got the thread title the same place Bush got his justification for war from

Tenett?

I thought Bush got his justification from God almighty, isn't that what he told the Israelis?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: KK
Where'd you pull that title and topic summary from? Your ass?

KK

:beer:

CkG

 

[InfectedMushroom]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: KK
Where'd you pull that title and topic summary from? Your ass?

KK

:beer:

CkG

:cookie for a throll, since you didn't contribute anything to the thread.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: KK
Where'd you pull that title and topic summary from? Your ass?

KK

:beer:

CkG

:cookie for a throll, since you didn't contribute anything to the thread.

*cookie* to OP then

CkG

 

[SuperTool]

I contributed my opinion. you contributed a picture of a beer mug.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: KK
Where'd you pull that title and topic summary from? Your ass?

KK

:beer:

CkG

:cookie for a throll, since you didn't contribute anything to the thread.

*cookie* to OP then

CkG

Not to bright, are you? The OP started the discussion and thereby brought it into life.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: Klixxer
Doesn't really matter, this is a war, even though it was declared over a long time ago, the flowers turned into bullets and every day someones father, son, brother, sister, mother or daughter die in Iraq, that is only counting those who matters, not the Iraqis, the ones who are supposed to be liberated.

Soon the power will be turned over to the Iraqis, erm, no, not for the security or law enforcement, not for the legal system of course, but the, eh, power.

Thank god the Iraqis are now liberated so they can follow ehhhh, well someone else than Saddam that they don't want to follow.

Luckily, you have no say in anything that goes on in Iraq. The next time your country gets the balls to get involved in world politics, you can start bashing our foreign policy.

 

[Gaard]

Pictures of dead bodies in 9/11 ads for Bush campaign is GOOD.

Pictures of brave soldiers who died in a senseless war is BAD.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: Klixxer
Doesn't really matter, this is a war, even though it was declared over a long time ago, the flowers turned into bullets and every day someones father, son, brother, sister, mother or daughter die in Iraq, that is only counting those who matters, not the Iraqis, the ones who are supposed to be liberated.

Soon the power will be turned over to the Iraqis, erm, no, not for the security or law enforcement, not for the legal system of course, but the, eh, power.

Thank god the Iraqis are now liberated so they can follow ehhhh, well someone else than Saddam that they don't want to follow.

Luckily, you have no say in anything that goes on in Iraq. The next time your country gets the balls to get involved in world politics, you can start bashing our foreign policy.

I did five years in battle zones as a NATO officer, how about you?

Next time your country decides to start a war based on obvious lies and misinformation, maybe your wife will loose her husband, then she can start praising your foregin policy, until then, keep your mouth shut little one.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: Klixxer
Doesn't really matter, this is a war, even though it was declared over a long time ago, the flowers turned into bullets and every day someones father, son, brother, sister, mother or daughter die in Iraq, that is only counting those who matters, not the Iraqis, the ones who are supposed to be liberated.

Soon the power will be turned over to the Iraqis, erm, no, not for the security or law enforcement, not for the legal system of course, but the, eh, power.

Thank god the Iraqis are now liberated so they can follow ehhhh, well someone else than Saddam that they don't want to follow.

Luckily, you have no say in anything that goes on in Iraq. The next time your country gets the balls to get involved in world politics, you can start bashing our foreign policy.

I did five years in battle zones as a NATO officer, how about you?

Next time your country decides to start a war based on obvious lies and misinformation, maybe your wife will loose her husband, then she can start praising your foregin policy, until then, keep your mouth shut little one.

Who the hell cares about your damn NATO status. Your country and others where profiting under the food for oil program and didn't want it too stop, therefore would have voted against any action against Iraq no matter how many resolutions Iraq was not in compliance with. That pretty much makes your beloved NATO as useful as dogsh1t.

KK

 

[SuperTool]

KK is losing it.
Too much European bashing on Faux News and talk radio has gone too his head.

 

[Gaard]

Pentagon Ban on Pictures of Dead Troops Is Broken

Among the national television news organizations, only the Fox News Channel had no plans to use any of the photos or explore the issue of why they had been barred from use in the news media, a channel spokesman said.

 

[unixfool]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/23/bush.caskets/index.html

I too agree with KK.

It does sound like you pulled the title and topic summary from Uranus.

Anyways, if it weren't YOUR daughter or son in those coffins, why'd you want to see pics of flag-draped coffins?

If it were my son or daughter and people were able to just casually view the casket, I'd blow a fuse and write the president myself a nastygram. I think it's pretty much BS to want to be able to see what shouldn't really be seen, except by family members.

Do you make it a habit of just casually showing up to stranger's funerals? If so, you're a sick person. If not, then why are you so worried about what you can't normally see?

My dad did 30 years in the U.S. Army. I did 10 with the Army. I've 3 uncles that were in the same time I was, and all 3 combined culminate 60 years of service. My wife is still in with 15. It sounds like you've not spent time with or around military types. If your family had a rich military history, then maybe you'd understand WHY this policy is geared toward family members of the deceased. It's not an issue of hiding how many soldiers have died (not to me, at least) but its more of respecting those (and their families) who've made the ultimate sacrifice and ensured the right to free speech that you're so obsessed with exercising at the moment.

The moment that strangers are allowed, in the U.S., to view and make opinions of dead soldiers in their caskets is the time that I seriously consider changing my national affiliation. That's much worse than burning the American flag. A flag is just symbolic. It can be replaced...lives can't. When the nation becomes so callous about our soldiers that they demand viewing their coffins, its time to start thinking about moving.