Bush is a sleezy ba$tard!

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ttn1

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<< The ABM treaty with Russa got rid of most of the nukes that assured mutuial destruction of our countries along with the rest of the planet if we wanted. What Bush is proposing is for DEFENCE and not OFFENCE. The next time something like a plane gets turned into a missle wouldn't it be nice to have the ability to say SHOOT IT DOWN! Or maybe he is so smart like Regan that the illusion of "Star Wars" working would be enough. >>



1. The missile defense system if sucessful, would make the US the only country capable of a nuclear missile attack. I think this would make Russia nervous.

2. We have the capability to shoot down planes now, the problem with Sept. 11th was intelligence and time, not ability.

Research labs have been and still are working on "Star Wars" or at least pieces of it. Ever seen the press releases on the laser missile defense system?? The major problem with both the missile system and the laser system is tracking. You are basically estimating where the missile should be by the shape of its exhaust.
 

jjones

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hmm... i guess this would make clinton one of the biggest idiots because it sure was easy to see his sleaze.

yup, he was a pretty big idiot as far as personal relationships go. no way should he have done anything with that attention whore.
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lol, i just couldn't resist the dig at clinton when the words sleazy and politicians were brought up.

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<< What's with all these Bush-bashing threads lately? :frown::disgust::| >>



Whiny little bastards had their Hugging-Trees cut down and their pet Spotted Owls made into stew.
 
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Why do we have to wait until there is a missle attack before we build our defences? I just don't get it. And furthermore, because there has been a few unsuccessful tests, we should just scrap the entire program? What kind of attitude is that?
 

Logix

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<< Whiny little bastards had their Hugging-Trees cut down and their pet Spotted Owls made into stew. >>


Buwhahahahahahaha!

And, the fact that the U.S. was going to pull out of the ABM treaty hasn't exactly been a secret.
 

misle

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Why is Bush stupid? Just because that the media told you he is?

What?!? You mean that the media is feeding me ideas and opinions...

I thought the news just objectively reported happening in the country and attempted to guess what the weather is going to be like tomorrow.......... </sarcasm>
 

junkyardDawg

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the ABM treaty is a dinosaur. it was signed to protect MAD(mutually assured destruction)as a deterent to a Soviet-US nuclear exchange. the cold war is over, the Soviet Union is gone, and Russia and the US are buddy-buddy now, sort of. Bush has been pushing to dismantle the ABM treaty since he got into office. to say he released the Bin Laden tape to cover it up is grasping at straws at best......
 

Tomek

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<< What ABM treaty??? Didn't the country that signed that treaty with us collapse under it's own oppresive weight?
Sheez, that's like trying to get a warrantee honored at a company that has GONE OUT OF BUSINESS!
Can't you just hear the phone call?
"Hello, this is America, we're calling to validate the condidtions of this treaty we signed 30 years ago."
BEEP "This number is no longer in service, if you belived you have reached this message in error, please try your call again.....Message 487d34"
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I hope you realize that Russia still has an arsenal of 5000+ nuclear missiles... and some of them are MIRV types, and, well, I hate to ruin if for you, but it's kinda hard to shoot down a warhead that's already detached itself from the missile body. It's a really good thing that Putin still decided to go through with the agreement on cutting down the number of missiles to somewhere between 1500-2200. But if it ever comes down to a nuclear war, which it probably won't, at least I hope it won't, and Russia launches, I want to be a in a bunker a couple hundred meters underground. Some people seem to think that the missile defense shield will stop any nuclear attack; it won't, it's capable of stopping several nuclear missiles only. And I don't like the fact that the defense missiles seem to be unable to hit the target 50% of the time because I live 2 blocks away from Beckmann Institute (center for supercomputing applications).
 

Balt

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<<I just put two and two together today in my humanites class.>>


You shouldn't try such heavy math during a humanities class, it clouds your judgement.
 
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<< I just put two and two together today in my humanites class.
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What are Humanites? Is that like the Diet version of a Human? Someone slept through Engralish I think.
 

SuperCyrix

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People just say that they don't like bush, but when there's a bush in front of their face, they can't help but to eat it up.
 

Pabster

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This is a real trip!

Funny how you label Bush as a 'sleazy bastard'. I'm willing to bet you thought a little different when ol' Slick Willie decided to send a few missiles, etc. to cover up his ludicrous actions. In fact, Clinton abused the powers of the President like no other President before him.

The ABM (Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty) was a relic of the Cold War. Bush attempted to get Russia to allow the United States to forge ahead with a missile defense network but was unsuccessful. Pulling out of the ABM is absolutely necessary to build the defenses of this great nation back. Had all those idiots who laughed at Reagan when he proposed the 'Star Wars' theory been smart enough to look a little further down the road...
 
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<< People just say that they don't like bush, but when there's a bush in front of their face, they can't help but to eat it up. >>


You're stupid.
 

ImTyping

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<< I wonder where he even got the idea of doing something like this.........certainly not from the previous administration. >>



No, he got it from the administration that wrote the book on dirty politics: Nixon's.

Next thing you know, they will say that the Clinton's invented the "I don't recall" defense...
Anybody hear of Ronald Reagan and his cronie's incredible lack of recall during the Iran-Contra trials?

When will you little kids understand there is nothing new in politics?

Which brings me to my point: Hey, buds! Clinton is not the President anymore!!! He will never be the President again. Judge your village idiot not against history, but against your own set of moral values. The question you must ask is: Are Bush's actions wrong? The question should NOT be, "Did Clinton do worse?" When you phrase your replies to Bush's misdeeds in this way, you are dealing in situational ethics...something that conservatives rate right up there with abortion and higher taxes.
 

UltraQuiet

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<< The question you must ask is: Are Bush's actions wrong? >>



Answer: NO! When someone proves differently, I'll change my answer.
 

fragarific

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You're condoning an immoral action because someone did it in the past. What is that about? Too many jerks on this forum.
 

Tominator

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<< . Judge your village idiot not against history, but against your own set of moral values. >>



A little bias maybe?

This is a time proven Liberal tactic. Clinton nor Bush are idiots, but many of the voters that voted for Clinton were. Many of them wised up when they saw Gore coming and voted Bush in.

Liberals deny history and the past. They only want it brought up after they are sure it has become so vague that they feel safe in distorting it.

If you supported Clinton, you HAD no values! Now the same persons that defended Clinton, the guy that made the term blow-job a household word, are talking about morals.

Don't be surprised if you get laughed at.
 

Red Dawn

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Hahaha.. I wonder if this guys serious or if he's doing it to get guys like Tominators Blood pressure up
 

Tominator

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My bloodpressure is fine. Posts like that make it oh so easy to point out flaws in reasoning.
 

junkyardDawg

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<< You're condoning an immoral action because someone did it in the past. What is that about? Too many jerks on this forum. >>



what immoral action???
1) trashing the ABM treaty is not immoral
2) Bush is not trying to hide the fact that he's trashing it, he's been trying, openly, to do this since he took office
 

Red Dawn

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Yeah but I didn't even have to open the thread to know that you'd have at least one post talking about Liberals and/or Clinton. Maybe you should just make a form letter for threads like this.
 

UltraQuiet

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<< If you supported Clinton, you HAD no values! Now the same persons that defended Clinton, the guy that made the term blow-job a household word, are talking about morals. >>



Red, how come he get's away with that and I get the dogsh!t hammered out of me?
 
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