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UberDave

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MSNBC Story


Sorry if repost.




"Bush told of hijacking dangers

August report had no details on Sept. plot

By Dan Eggen and Bill Miller
THE WASHINGTON POST

May 16 ? In the first 10 days of August last year, intelligence was presented to President Bush and his top advisers that terrorists associated with Osama bin Laden had discussed the possibility of hijacking airplanes, reliable sources said. " ...................ETC



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Wake me when you find the story that says that Bush knew the exact date and time when Al Qaeda would attack.

Until then, this is stupid.
 

littlezipp

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Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
Wake me when you find the story that says that Bush knew the exact date and time when Al Qaeda would attack.

Until then, this is stupid.
I'm with you on that, we did know something was going to happen, just not when.
Oh yeah, and if you didn't know, we also knew that Pearl Harbor was going to be attacked.

*edit for spelling
 

308nato

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How come every time something is a repost, it seems there is an apology by the poster just in case its a repost? I have never seen the "sorry if repost" in place when it wasn't a repost.

Is it a kharma thing or have I just drank to much coffee?
 

Ameesh

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Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
Wake me when you find the story that says that Bush knew the exact date and time when Al Qaeda would attack.

Until then, this is stupid.

i disagree
 

tcsenter

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Bush told of hijacking dangers
Yes, he did, and so did Clinton, and the Bush before him. We've been getting hundreds, if not thousands, of warnings like it for several years, and none of this is "news". The FBI and other government officials have been admitting since 9/12 that they receive lots of information about potential threats.

Here's the difficulty with doing anything about it: Let us suppose I'm going to blow up a building, but you don't know who "I" am. Ok, now its up to you to guess which of the 30 million "buildings" I'm going to blow up...and when. Ready? Go.
 

Justincase

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The illegitimate dictator of the U.S. (Bush) only knew a month before? Not exactly...3 newspapers in Russia (Pravda, Isvestia, and one other newspaper whose name escapes me), published articles in June of 2001 stating that there would be a series of attacks on the U.S. starting in the fall of 2001. I don't believe for a second that this was common knowledge in Russia, but that Bush, who has at his disposal some of the greatest intelligence-gathering assets in the world, knew nothing about it at that time. Bush, like Clinton before him, will only admit something when he is caught, and then only as much as can be proven.

Furthermore, I have 3 times, listened to a clear tape recorded in 1994 of a middle-eastern FBI informant who flat-out stated that if he wasn't paid, that "planes will be used as missiles" on U.S. soil. Our inept FBI knew 8 years ago that Al-Queda was planning such attacks. The tape was provided by ex-CIA agent Mike Levine (also author of 'Deep Cover').
 

tcsenter

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Furthermore, I have 3 times, listened to a clear tape recorded in 1994 of a middle-eastern FBI informant who flat-out stated that if he wasn't paid, that "planes will be used as missiles" on U.S. soil. Our inept FBI knew 8 years ago that Al-Queda was planning such attacks. The tape was provided by ex-CIA agent Mike Levine (also author of 'Deep Cover').
Pravda...Ivestia? LMAO! Are you SURE it wasn't Rense.com and Fringefolk.com?

The 'plan' you're talking about, which was disclosed during the trial of the suspected World Trade Center bombers, involved airliners that were to be hijacked in OTHER COUNTRIES then flown to the United States and 'used as missiles'. Remember when NORAD, the FAA, and other military officials claimed they thought the threat would come from OUTSIDE the United States, which is why all dedicated NORAD radar sites were pointed 'outward' to track international flights instead of 'inward' to track domestic flights? Yeah, that's because the best intelligence strongly indicated the hijacked airliners would be INTERNATIONAL flights originating from ANOTHER COUNTRY.

Other than that, you're not telling anything that hasn't already been public knowledge since the attacks.
 

gwlam12

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he may have known of hijacking, but who knew the planes would be used to ram into buildings.
 

sandorski

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Yup, they likely knew HiJacking's were likely to take place, but most hijackings are rather harmless(ish). Airport security could have been improved and what not, but hindsight is always 20/20.
 

ToBeMe

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Yeah...............Clinton "knew" too..........................he especially "knew" when he was standing in front of the nation saying "I DID NOT have sexual relations with that woman, that he indeed had!..............but *some* of you still seem to worship him.

Bush "knew" that at SOME point at SOME place in the world al Quaeda MIGHT ATTEMPT to hijack a plane and MAY target SOME place in the U.S.......................tell me, with all this "new" information, what exactly should have been done????? Shut down air traffic????? Halt all suspicious or middle eastern passengers from boarding or entering the U.S.?????? adandon all high rise buildings???? Go on a "man hunt" to track down all terrorists?????? WHAT?????
 

philmacrevis

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These reports are like Nostradamus' prophecies and psychic prodictions. It looks like a prodiction after the fact, but doesn't help us before the event.
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: Justincase
The illegitimate dictator of the U.S. (Bush) only knew a month before? Not exactly...3 newspapers in Russia (Pravda, Isvestia, and one other newspaper whose name escapes me), published articles in June of 2001 stating that there would be a series of attacks on the U.S. starting in the fall of 2001. I don't believe for a second that this was common knowledge in Russia, but that Bush, who has at his disposal some of the greatest intelligence-gathering assets in the world, knew nothing about it at that time. Bush, like Clinton before him, will only admit something when he is caught, and then only as much as can be proven.

Furthermore, I have 3 times, listened to a clear tape recorded in 1994 of a middle-eastern FBI informant who flat-out stated that if he wasn't paid, that "planes will be used as missiles" on U.S. soil. Our inept FBI knew 8 years ago that Al-Queda was planning such attacks. The tape was provided by ex-CIA agent Mike Levine (also author of 'Deep Cover').

wow, you heard a clear tape? I would love to hear it. BUt, of course, you dont have it. You never got a copy, just heard a copy. Is it true that every conspiracy theorist hears every damning tape that proves a conspiracy, but never tapes it?

 

Nitemare

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I guess they should just have kicked all Arabs out of flight school and forbid the training of anybody with dark skin...

Could you imagine if it had turned out to be a hoax and the US had made it a policy to harass Arabs....I can smell the stink from here


liberals want their cake and want to eat it too...

Point the finger at Bush and the feds all you want, if they weren't afraid of being politically incorrect by doing the wise thing...doing extended background checks on suspected people because of their ethnicity... we probably would not have had the events that took place on 9-11

How's them apples?

 

Justincase

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>>>Furthermore, I have 3 times, listened to a clear tape recorded in 1994 of a middle-eastern FBI informant who flat-out stated that if he wasn't paid, that "planes will be used as missiles" on U.S. soil. Our inept FBI knew 8 years ago that Al-Queda was planning such attacks. The tape was provided by ex-CIA agent Mike Levine (also author of 'Deep Cover').

wow, you heard a clear tape? I would love to hear it. BUt, of course, you dont have it.<<<


Of course, I do have it.





You really are a rotten, miserable bunch of people.

Goodbye.
 

ToBeMe

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Originally posted by: Justincase
>>>Furthermore, I have 3 times, listened to a clear tape recorded in 1994 of a middle-eastern FBI informant who flat-out stated that if he wasn't paid, that "planes will be used as missiles" on U.S. soil. Our inept FBI knew 8 years ago that Al-Queda was planning such attacks. The tape was provided by ex-CIA agent Mike Levine (also author of 'Deep Cover').

wow, you heard a clear tape? I would love to hear it. BUt, of course, you dont have it.<<<


Of course, I do have it.





Bunch of asswipes.

Later.
Well.................since you do have it, let's hear it!!!
 

Pacfanweb

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So what if Bush got a warning? What could he have done?

Hindsight is always 20/20, and it's really easy for all the idiotic Monday morning quarterbacks to chime in after the fact to say how things should have been done differently.

I will say this:

Any person who thinks that Bush or any other US official KNEW what was going to happen on 9/11/01, and that he purposely did nothing to prevent it, is a complete, total, utter, MORON, and if you post here admitting you think this, you should be banned from AT for life. Why? Because if you are so stupid that you can even think this, then nothing you could ever post here could be of any value to anyone.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: Justincase
The illegitimate dictator of the U.S. (Bush) only knew a month before? Not exactly...3 newspapers in Russia (Pravda, Isvestia, and one other newspaper whose name escapes me), published articles in June of 2001 stating that there would be a series of attacks on the U.S. starting in the fall of 2001. I don't believe for a second that this was common knowledge in Russia, but that Bush, who has at his disposal some of the greatest intelligence-gathering assets in the world, knew nothing about it at that time. Bush, like Clinton before him, will only admit something when he is caught, and then only as much as can be proven.

Furthermore, I have 3 times, listened to a clear tape recorded in 1994 of a middle-eastern FBI informant who flat-out stated that if he wasn't paid, that "planes will be used as missiles" on U.S. soil. Our inept FBI knew 8 years ago that Al-Queda was planning such attacks. The tape was provided by ex-CIA agent Mike Levine (also author of 'Deep Cover').

Wow they didn't take the advice of a disgruntled ex-government employee...Go figure..

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TapTap

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Oh Please stop this bullsheeit :frown:
This is the same as saying " Weather forecasters knew the summer before that a hurricane formed in the Carribean could devastate south FL"
It boils down to what the hell do you expect with unsubstantiated rumour, and lack of evidence. What possible action would YOU have undertaken? Hindsight is always 20/20.
These are the same idiots that espouse FDR and Churchill conspired to let Pearl Harbor happen so the American people would support the US entry in to WW2.
Gimme a break please.
 
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