Bush Lied?

[Format C:]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Format C:

Originally posted by: conjur
The Bush administration produced the data that these people saw.

Really? All the way back to '98 hunh? Damned evil time traveling Bush Administration.

Thanks for proving my point about you being brain-dead.

They were YOUR words oh illustrious one.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Format C:

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Format C:

Originally posted by: conjur
The Bush administration produced the data that these people saw.

Really? All the way back to '98 hunh? Damned evil time traveling Bush Administration.

Thanks for proving my point about you being brain-dead.

They were YOUR words oh illustrious one.

No, brain-dead. The quotes from 1999 and before are automatically excluded.

The quotes from 2001 and later are the ones to which I was referring.

 

[Format C:]

Originally posted by: conjur
The quotes from 1999 and before are automatically excluded.

By whom?

 

[Moonbeam]

As I recall, the UN inspectors were in Iraq asking for more time before we went to war because they were being allowed to inspect and finding nothing much in violation. Don't forget the war was begun to start the New American Century, not to find WMD. WMD was just the excuse the neocons picked because it was the one that would sell. They had to start the war before further evidence that there were no weapons or loose the fear that could stampeed the people. The war is about conquest not weapons. The Bush people are clinically insane. They have done irreparable harm to our fine nation and they are traitors to everything that made us great. Those who support them are traitors too, or fools.

 

[Codec]

You've pretty much summed up the neocon gestalt, Moonbeam. Great article on this at:

http://bostonreview.net/BR29.1/robin.html

 

[sandorski]

Ok, you win, he didn't lie, he just relied on outdated info proving that he's a fool and a moron.

What's next, Germany developing Rockets that could reach the US East Coast, the Atom Bomb, and U-Boats in the Atlantic?

Get real man, every new piece of info flew in the face of every claim he was making! He lied.

 

[Format C:]

Rule #3

 

[Czar]

none of those excuse Bush at all, if Clinton would have invated under the same pretext as Bush did he would suffer the same fate as Bush does, acting on realy bad intel that as a whole doesnt add up

 

[Czar]

and common, emails?

 

[AEB]

You guys are retarded if you think he lied. (its not a flame just a fact) i dont agree with a lot of the things this president does, but no president (except carter) would take intellegence, change it and then say "heres the intellegence", because as any one of us knows there are checks and blances in our government. Congress can get the intell direct from the agiencies, and no one not even bush would think he could hide information when he is the most publicly shown official in office. Even clinton got busted and he was slick

A couple more things
The UN cannot be trusted in ANY case.
The inspectors were jerked around just like before

and Rule #3

 

[Czar]

they lied because they said themselves that this was solid evidence based on solid facts and sources when the intelligence community said that it was based on shaky facts and not so reliable sources

 

[Siddhartha]

Never mind

 

[0roo0roo]

well the bushies are certainly lying about one thing. they are not strong on defence at all. after they got into power...what was it again? ah yes vacations and tax cuts. ignore poor richard clarke on terrorism, he's crying wolf!!

if what clinton had said was true, why did the republicans care more about a blow job then national security?

could it be...that they hate america?

oh yes... it could!

 

[AEB]

Im too worried about the messes kerry will get us in if hes elected
Its not really a mess, you are just told it is, other wars were far worse.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

the war in Iraq is a MESS. It is not the fairy-tale that the Bush administration thought it would be. Don't compare this war to other wars, we live in a completely different time.

 

[AEB]

its only different because america is dumber and self loathing. If there was any kind of support for this war it would be over, even tho it is over and its just anti-american terrorists that are fighting us now, and yes even "resitance" fighters were arund in WW2

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: AEB
Im too worried about the messes kerry will get us in if hes elected
Its not really a mess, you are just told it is, other wars were far worse.

As far I know, Kerry does not have an agenda to invade countries as Bush does and did. Nobody has "told me" that Bush has the Islamic world ready to blow up by invading Iraq or that the US is involved in a guerilla war in Iraq it can not win.

Have I gotten off topic?

 

[AEB]

first off they hate all americans, and they hated us before we invaded.
But as for kerry you are right he voted against supporting the invasion, oh no wait he voted for it.
You call it an agenda but that isnt always a bad thing especaily given the case(and me going into why the war was justified would be off topic)

 

[chess9]

Moonbeam:

Amen, brother. Bush's supporters are mostly unthinking partisans, like Dutch football fans.

-Robert

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Format C:
Politics According To Connedjur 101.

Rule #1 - If a Democrat says it its okay because "fill in the blank". If Bush says it its a deliberate lie and he should be boiled in oil for it.

Rule #2 - See Rule #1.

Rule #3 - Repeat Rule #1 over and over until you really really believe it.

1- Whoever went to war based on this intel is a fool and deserves to be voted out of office

2- Clinton didnt

3- Bush did - See #1

Bush is either a fool or a liar or both. Either disqualifies him as deserving reelection.

 

[J Heartless Slick]

Originally posted by: AEB
its only different because america is dumber and self loathing. If there was any kind of support for this war it would be over, even tho it is over and its just anti-american terrorists that are fighting us now, and yes even "resitance" fighters were arund in WW2

"If there was any kind of support for this war it would be over, even tho it is over and its just anti-american terrorists that are fighting us now"

What?

Can you please explain that statement to me?

 

[arsbanned]

I guess the question is, who pulled th trigger on Iraq, in the face of fierce opposition from the rest of the World? Bush did. End of story.

Its not really a mess, you are just told it is, other wars were far worse

Throughtout our history, wars that had a strong moral purpose were won; wars in which an aggressor attacks a sovereign nation and is viewed as an illegal occupation are on shaky ground from the beginning.

And yes, it is a mess. They just blew up the leader of the Iraqi "government" this morning! Wake up man!

 

[Format C:]

Rule #3!

 

[Ldir]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur
One last time, oh great stubborn and ignorant one.

The people quoted were given data from the Bush administration. They did not receive the original source intelligence. Therefore, their statements were based upon reports produced by the Bush administration.

Again - I thought he was dumb? These people who made these statement were deceived by that dumb chimp Bush?

Oh, and isn't it Congress's job provide a checks and balances to prevent this sort of thing? If so, and you believe Bush lied -then these people who made these statements were not doing their job and should resign.

CkG

1. You can be dumb and still be a good liar.

2. Dubya pays smart people to write lies for him.

3. Dubya's lies are now obvious to everyone except his deluded fan boys.


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[Ldir]

Originally posted by: Format C:
Rule #3!

Rule #4 - Dubya and his fan boys ignore all facts contradicting their deluded view of reality.


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Bush Apologists of America (BAA): pulling the wool over their own eyes since 1980