Bush loses another major ally: Australian Prime Minister defeated in elections

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Pabster

Lifer
Apr 15, 2001
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Originally posted by: eits
whoa there, are you fucking kidding me?

pot, meet kettle. kettle, meet pot.

virtually every thread of yours is 100% partisan hackery... even down to the inaccurate, misleading titles.

omg lololol haha :laugh:
 

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Lifer
Jun 3, 2002
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Originally posted by: Balt

That's great. How many troops will France be sending to Iraq?

Answer is zero. Of course, don't expect non-prof to acknowledge this reality.
 

senseamp

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: eits
this goes to show you how wrong the war in iraq is and how we are gaining resentment. the people of australia would rather have someone who doesn't support the war in iraq than someone who more than a decade of growth and record low levels of unemployment.
ummm your post is worthless...

Please explain to me why the American people choose Bush over Gore when Gore was VP during "a decade of growth and record low levels of unemployment" and the world was mostly at peace during that time?

Also you are forgetting ONE big thing. When one party is on power for a long time they tend to get most of their agenda passed.
That is one problems the Republicans faced. They ran for office on welfare reform, a balanced budget etc etc.
They got all this stuff passed and then ran out of 'big ideas.' In essence they could no longer give the people a reason to vote for them.

Same problem that Gore had, Bill and him had accomplished alot and Gore wasn't able to explain to America why they should put him in office instead of giving Bush a chance when Bush was talking about something new.

Maybe you are on to something. We needed a Bush presidency to remind people why having Clintons in the White House is a great idea
Another devilishly well executed plan by the Clintons? Use Gore as sacrificial lamb to get Bush elected and then use Bush as a pivot to return to the White House?
I love the Clintons more and more every day. :thumbsup:
 

senseamp

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
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Originally posted by: Evan Lieb
Originally posted by: Balt

That's great. How many troops will France be sending to Iraq?

Answer is zero. Of course, don't expect non-prof to acknowledge this reality.

France will send freedom fries
Remember when neocons were gloating that they were going to own Iraq and lock out all the Frenchies, Russians, and Germans out of lucrative oil deals. Well who is laughing now?
We own Iraq, all right.
 

Rainsford

Lifer
Apr 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: eits
this goes to show you how wrong the war in iraq is and how we are gaining resentment. the people of australia would rather have someone who doesn't support the war in iraq than someone who more than a decade of growth and record low levels of unemployment.
ummm your post is worthless...

Please explain to me why the American people choose Bush over Gore when Gore was VP during "a decade of growth and record low levels of unemployment" and the world was mostly at peace during that time?

Also you are forgetting ONE big thing. When one party is on power for a long time they tend to get most of their agenda passed.
That is one problems the Republicans faced. They ran for office on welfare reform, a balanced budget etc etc.
They got all this stuff passed and then ran out of 'big ideas.' In essence they could no longer give the people a reason to vote for them.

Same problem that Gore had, Bill and him had accomplished alot and Gore wasn't able to explain to America why they should put him in office instead of giving Bush a chance when Bush was talking about something new.

So the country has ADD and the attention span of a small puppy. That is not a good thing, and it's certainly not a trait you should boast about being responsible for sweeping your candidate into office. For what it's worth, I think you're right. I think the country sacrificed a sure thing with a continuation over the Clinton/Gore years in favor of some cowboy noise that promised to be new and exciting. The voters electing Bush over Gore strikes me as a lot like the guy who cheats on his wife of 15 years with the 21 year old secretary from his office. Understandable, maybe, but not exactly behavior that should be encouraged.
 

Rainsford

Lifer
Apr 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: senseamp
I love the Clintons more and more every day. :thumbsup:
You're not alone!

All the more assurance, if I needed it, that this woman has a good chance of becoming President. GWB absolutely infuriates much of the left in a way that few Republicans can duplicate. Not only didn't that hurt him, it might even have helped him in the increasingly juvenile political world we live in, where sticking it to the other guy is as good a reason as any to vote for someone. Hillary is like kryptonite to Republicans, and after 8 years of GWB, something tells me that might work in her favor.
 

shadow9d9

Diamond Member
Jul 6, 2004
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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: eits
this goes to show you how wrong the war in iraq is and how we are gaining resentment. the people of australia would rather have someone who doesn't support the war in iraq than someone who more than a decade of growth and record low levels of unemployment.
ummm your post is worthless...

Please explain to me why the American people choose Bush over Gore when Gore was VP during "a decade of growth and record low levels of unemployment" and the world was mostly at peace during that time?

Also you are forgetting ONE big thing. When one party is on power for a long time they tend to get most of their agenda passed.
That is one problems the Republicans faced. They ran for office on welfare reform, a balanced budget etc etc.
They got all this stuff passed and then ran out of 'big ideas.' In essence they could no longer give the people a reason to vote for them.

Same problem that Gore had, Bill and him had accomplished alot and Gore wasn't able to explain to America why they should put him in office instead of giving Bush a chance when Bush was talking about something new.

The Supreme Court decided, not the "American people". But you knew that...
 

Nebor

Lifer
Jun 24, 2003
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Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Evan Lieb
Originally posted by: Balt

That's great. How many troops will France be sending to Iraq?

Answer is zero. Of course, don't expect non-prof to acknowledge this reality.

France will send freedom fries
Remember when neocons were gloating that they were going to own Iraq and lock out all the Frenchies, Russians, and Germans out of lucrative oil deals. Well who is laughing now?
We own Iraq, all right.

As I said above, there are a couple thousand French troops serving in Iraq in logistical and support rolls, just ask any American troops that have been there.

And we've let everyone but the Russians in on the money making venues of Iraq. And we're still the ones laughing, we're making trillions off of the war and reconstruction of Iraq.
 

feralkid

Lifer
Jan 28, 2002
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Originally posted by: Nebor

And we're still the ones laughing, we're making trillions off of the war and reconstruction of Iraq.





We are?

Or by "making" did you mean to say "spending"?



 

Nebor

Lifer
Jun 24, 2003
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Originally posted by: feralkid
Originally posted by: Nebor

And we're still the ones laughing, we're making trillions off of the war and reconstruction of Iraq.





We are?

Or by "making" did you mean to say "spending"?

We're producing trillions of dollars worth of tanks, bombs weapons, concrete, steel, etc. the government is spending money, sure, but that money is going into private hands, where it belongs.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: feralkid
Originally posted by: Nebor

And we're still the ones laughing, we're making trillions off of the war and reconstruction of Iraq.





We are?

Or by "making" did you mean to say "spending"?

We're producing trillions of dollars worth of tanks, bombs weapons, concrete, steel, etc. the government is spending money, sure, but that money is going into private hands, where it belongs.

Money financed by debt, money that we the people will have to pay back. There is a net loss.
 

Nebor

Lifer
Jun 24, 2003
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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: feralkid
Originally posted by: Nebor

And we're still the ones laughing, we're making trillions off of the war and reconstruction of Iraq.





We are?

Or by "making" did you mean to say "spending"?

We're producing trillions of dollars worth of tanks, bombs weapons, concrete, steel, etc. the government is spending money, sure, but that money is going into private hands, where it belongs.

Money financed by debt, money that we the people will have to pay back. There is a net loss.

There's a net loss to some people, sure. Not everyone is making money off the war.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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From Nebor-
As I said above, there are a couple thousand French troops serving in Iraq in logistical and support rolls, just ask any American troops that have been there.

And we've let everyone but the Russians in on the money making venues of Iraq. And we're still the ones laughing, we're making trillions off of the war and reconstruction of Iraq.

The first is mere assertion- offer up some credible source of information.

And, uhh, who's this "we" making money in Iraq? Halliburton? Blackwater? Whose money is it, and where did it come from?

Reconstruction? I'm sure the Green Zone is nice, and places in Kurdistan... the rest doesn't even have continuous electricity, running water, basic sanitation- even though those supposedly "rebuilding" such are getting fat off of nothing...

edit-typo
 

piasabird

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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How many Australian troops are there?

USA probably needs to start lowering troop levels anyway. I dont think Congress will pay for the current level of spending much longer or at all if we dont start bringing troops home. The reality is we are not made of money. We should also pull troops out of Germany and the rest of Europe while we are at it. All those soldiers could be spending money in the USA.
 
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