Bush on Verge of breakthrough

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Is this Bush's big "breakthrough"?

OMG! We now have 102 uses for dead cats! They can be turned into biodiesel!
 
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This almost reminds me of something out of Atlas Shrugged where the government used wishful and deceptive propaganda to try to placate the populace. I guess it isn't below Bush.

The only breakthrough this bozo of a president is on the verge of is to go down in history as the Worst President of the United States. Under his watch, the nation lunged in the direction of becoming a third world country and he did nothing to stop it but only encouraged its progression.

Meet the Bush Legacy--alleged 5% unemployment--lol--people are "employed"--they're just working poor.
 

Trianon

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Did you see the background story regarding this propaganda...

Two weeks ago, 32 workers, including eight researchers, were laid off at the Energy Department's National Renewable Energy Laboratory in Golden. The lab helps develop the very renewable energy technologies the president is promoting.

Then, over the weekend, just before Bush's planned visit to the lab on Tuesday, the government restored the jobs. His trip to the renewable energy laboratory is part of a two-day, three-state trip to promote the energy proposals he outlined in his State of the Union address.
CNN




 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: Condor
Originally posted by: Lemon law
The entire thesis of this thread is a joke.

Bush close to a breakthrough?????????????

What is meant is that despite spending cuts some science types are closer to making some technologies
economically feasable-------Bush himself could not breaktrough a paper bag.---but wants the credit if someone
else does.

Given that science writing almost always exagerates---puffing even minor work into groundbreaking discoveries.
Scientists are the group most distrustful of these writings.

If we want to be energy independent, politicians with vision make funding decisions long term. Now that the pressure is
on, Bush seeks a savoir in science writers, who will puff minor discoveries into the energy vision Bush should have had years ago.

Good effort, but forty years of leadership by our liberial intelligentsia is what has put us in this mess. The energy crisis started to be publicly known in 1973. Count the Dims who didn't do jack all since then and tell me why this is an all Bush issue.

So pray tell me why the current administration and the Republican controlled Congress wait until oil sets records prices to do anything about this "known" shortage??
 

EatSpam

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
The entire thesis of this thread is a joke.

Bush close to a breakthrough?????????????

Personally, I thought it was about his former alcoholism or something to do with religion when I saw the title..
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: Condor
Originally posted by: Lemon law
The entire thesis of this thread is a joke.

Bush close to a breakthrough?????????????

What is meant is that despite spending cuts some science types are closer to making some technologies
economically feasable-------Bush himself could not breaktrough a paper bag.---but wants the credit if someone
else does.

Given that science writing almost always exagerates---puffing even minor work into groundbreaking discoveries.
Scientists are the group most distrustful of these writings.

If we want to be energy independent, politicians with vision make funding decisions long term. Now that the pressure is
on, Bush seeks a savoir in science writers, who will puff minor discoveries into the energy vision Bush should have had years ago.

Good effort, but forty years of leadership by our liberial intelligentsia is what has put us in this mess. The energy crisis started to be publicly known in 1973. Count the Dims who didn't do jack all since then and tell me why this is an all Bush issue.


I guess you forget who is in power and has the authority to actually change this..but of course, that is convinient to forget about isn't it.
 

CaptnKirk

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Originally posted by: Condor

Good effort, but forty years of leadership by our liberial intelligentsia is what has put us in this mess. The energy crisis started to be publicly known in 1973. Count the Dims who didn't do jack all since then and tell me why this is an all Bush issue.

Doesn't hold up to scrutiny:

1969 - 1974 = Nixon (GOP)
1974 - 1977 = Ford (GOP)
1977 - 1981 = Carter (DEM)
1981 - 1989 = Reagan (GOP)
1989 - 1993 = Bush I (GOP)
1993 - 2001 = Clinton (DEM)
2001 - Armageddon = Bush II (GOP)

That's NOT 40 years, from 1969 under Nixon to date is 37 years total.
In that timeframe, Dem's were in the Oral Office for a total of 12 years.
That leaves 25 years of GOP control and 21 years under that control since
the energy issue came into focus.

At least Jimmy Carter encouraged people to keep their pants on to stay warm -
while telling the public with his 'Fireside Chats' that Midlle East Oil was a threat.

 

techs

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: Condor

Good effort, but forty years of leadership by our liberial intelligentsia is what has put us in this mess. The energy crisis started to be publicly known in 1973. Count the Dims who didn't do jack all since then and tell me why this is an all Bush issue.

Doesn't hol up to scrutiny:

1969 - 1974 = Nixon (GOP)
1974 - 1977 = Ford (GOP)
1977 - 1981 = Carter (DEM)
1981 - 1989 = Reagan (GOP)
1989 - 1993 = Bush I (GOP)
1993 - 2001 = Clinton (DEM)
2001 - Armageddon = Bush II (GOP)

That's NOT 40 years, from 1969 under Nixon to date is 37 years total.
In that timeframe, Dem's were in the Oral Office for a total of 12 years.
That leaves 25 years of GOP control and 21 years under that control since
the energy issue came into focus.

At least Jimmy Carter encouraged people to keep their pants on to stay warm -
while telling the public with his 'Fireside Chats' that Midlle East Oil was a threat.
Truth is Carter was right about many, many things. He was just ahead of his time.

 

Train

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: Condor

Good effort, but forty years of leadership by our liberial intelligentsia is what has put us in this mess. The energy crisis started to be publicly known in 1973. Count the Dims who didn't do jack all since then and tell me why this is an all Bush issue.

Doesn't hol up to scrutiny:

1969 - 1974 = Nixon (GOP)
1974 - 1977 = Ford (GOP)
1977 - 1981 = Carter (DEM)
1981 - 1989 = Reagan (GOP)
1989 - 1993 = Bush I (GOP)
1993 - 2001 = Clinton (DEM)
2001 - Armageddon = Bush II (GOP)

That's NOT 40 years, from 1969 under Nixon to date is 37 years total.
In that timeframe, Dem's were in the Oral Office for a total of 12 years.
That leaves 25 years of GOP control and 21 years under that control since
the energy issue came into focus.

At least Jimmy Carter encouraged people to keep their pants on to stay warm -
while telling the public with his 'Fireside Chats' that Midlle East Oil was a threat.
Your getting as bad as Dave. Do you even know what GOP stands for? heres the corrected list:

1969 - 1974 = Nixon (Rep)
1974 - 1977 = Ford (Rep)
1977 - 1981 = Carter (GOP)
1981 - 1989 = Reagan (Rep)
1989 - 1993 = Bush I (Rep)
1993 - 2001 = Clinton (GOP/Dem)
2001 - Armageddon = Bush II (GOP)

 

thraashman

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Originally posted by: Train
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: Condor

Good effort, but forty years of leadership by our liberial intelligentsia is what has put us in this mess. The energy crisis started to be publicly known in 1973. Count the Dims who didn't do jack all since then and tell me why this is an all Bush issue.

Doesn't hol up to scrutiny:

1969 - 1974 = Nixon (GOP)
1974 - 1977 = Ford (GOP)
1977 - 1981 = Carter (DEM)
1981 - 1989 = Reagan (GOP)
1989 - 1993 = Bush I (GOP)
1993 - 2001 = Clinton (DEM)
2001 - Armageddon = Bush II (GOP)

That's NOT 40 years, from 1969 under Nixon to date is 37 years total.
In that timeframe, Dem's were in the Oral Office for a total of 12 years.
That leaves 25 years of GOP control and 21 years under that control since
the energy issue came into focus.

At least Jimmy Carter encouraged people to keep their pants on to stay warm -
while telling the public with his 'Fireside Chats' that Midlle East Oil was a threat.
Your getting as bad as Dave. Do you even know what GOP stands for? heres the corrected list:

1969 - 1974 = Nixon (Rep)
1974 - 1977 = Ford (Rep)
1977 - 1981 = Carter (GOP)
1981 - 1989 = Reagan (Rep)
1989 - 1993 = Bush I (Rep)
1993 - 2001 = Clinton (GOP/Dem)
2001 - Armageddon = Bush II (GOP)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOP
I'd say the first guy was right.
 

CaptnKirk

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Originally posted by: Train
Your getting as bad as Dave. Do you even know what GOP stands for? heres the corrected list:

1969 - 1974 = Nixon (Rep)
1974 - 1977 = Ford (Rep)
1977 - 1981 = Carter (GOP) ERROR BY TRAIN
1981 - 1989 = Reagan (Rep)
1989 - 1993 = Bush I (Rep)
1993 - 2001 = Clinton (GOP/Dem) ERROR, Again
2001 - Armageddon = Bush II (GOP)[/quote]

GOP is a reference to the Grand Old Party, that which the Republicans claim as their official Nickname

QUOTE: The official symbol of the Republican Party is the elephant. Grand Old Party is a traditional nickname, and the acronym G.O.P. is commonly used as a shorthand political designation.

My observation is that you don't know anything about the Whigs, GOP, Republicans,
or maybe even the time of day.

 

Train

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GOP refers to the party that controls congress. If not, then why were the dems referred to as the GOP in the late 80's early 90's?
 

1EZduzit

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Train
GOP refers to the party that controls congress. If not, then why were the dems referred to as the GOP in the late 80's early 90's?

??? Dems were never refered to as the GOP? Got a link for that?

GOP is an acronym for Grand Old Party, which are the Republicans. Always has been that way?

 

CaptnKirk

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Originally posted by: Train
GOP refers to the party that controls congress. If not, then why were the dems referred to as the GOP in the late 80's early 90's?


The term and reference to GOP or G.O.P is, and has always and only, been a reference to the Republican Party in American Politics.

The reference to the control of either the House or the Senate is and has always been 'the Majority Party'
and the term used for the party that is represented, but not in control of the Agenda is 'the Minority Party'

Majority Party gets to name the 'Speaker of the House' - thats Hastert
Minority Party names their spokesman, the Minority Party Leader - was Daschle and is now Reid, also considered as the Minority Party Whip.

Over in the Senate you find the senate Majority Leader - was Trent Lott and now it's Frist and his Evil Twin Skippy -
That would be the Senate Majority Leader - which was Tom Delay and now it's Boehner.
Next in the food chain is the Majority Party Whip - Mich McConnel

In the late '80s through the early '90s, the Democrats were in control of the House and Senate as the Majority Party
while Bush I and Reagan were in office as the Executives.
The 'Republican Revolution' as led by Newt Gingrich targeted Majority Party Control of both Legislative Branches
and were somewhat successful since they did gain control of the House when Clinton was the Executive.
It's a 'Checks and Balances' thing, which has been lost since the middle of Bush (Jr)'s first term.

The Ship of State wasn't designed to ram Icebergs.

 

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You will be able to feed power back into the grid> WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Life is a laugh a minute under the Chimp.
 

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I was hoping the Dum-Dum had finally made peace with his violent past and was going to announce.... Pretzel Power! Or he had built a really big one of those yellow birds that wears the top-hat and drinks water out of a cup while bobbing up & down and he was going to introduce it as perpetual energy.
 

shira

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"Breakthroughs"?

This is so completely laughable. What breakthroughs, and more specifically, WHEN?

I detect a Rove propaganda campaign: Lull the sheeple into thinking that everything will soon be wonderful - that the Administration is fostering a new age of alternate energy technologies and that all the imminent "breakthroughs" mean that cheap energy is just around the corner - and maybe they won't revolt against the Republican Congress in the 2006 elections.

My BS meter is pegged.
 

CaptnKirk

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I thought that they had a breakthrough with the Florida Connection with Bubba Jeb when I read this:

development of biofuels such as "cellulosic'' ethanol made from wood chips or sawgrass

Since 'Sawgrass' is found in the swamps of the Everglades.
It's not a very good choice of a potential source of energy.

There is a biological resource know as 'Switchgrass' that does have the potential to be a viable source of Ethanol alcohol
through the use of the destructive distallation process, and it does have a fairly high yeild per acre potential.

More switchgrass for the huddled masses
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
I thought that they had a breakthrough with the Florida Connection with Bubba Jeb when I read this:

development of biofuels such as "cellulosic'' ethanol made from wood chips or sawgrass

Since 'Sawgrass' is found in the swamps of the Everglades.
It's not a very good choice of a potential source of energy.

There is a biological resource know as 'Switchgrass' that does have the potential to be a viable source of Ethanol alcohol
through the use of the destructive distallation process, and it does have a fairly high yeild per acre potential.

More switchgrass for the huddled masses

Switchgrass would be good. Grasses give the land a break and build up the organic matter of the soil because the roots sod in. It it works, it makes me wonder about the potential of other grasses?

 

piasabird

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We have the technology to build plants that could supplement our energy usage and promote cleaner air and less waste in the form of hydro electricity. However, it costs slightly more to make Hydro electricity and the water level in a river can lessen the supply of electricity available. We could also build joint use facilities. For instance you could take a big parking lot and build a solar power array above it and cut down on the heat problem in the parking lot or build solar arrays on rooftops. Or on the proper side of a building to catch the sunlight. It does cost more to use solar panels, but it does not make a bunch of emissions while you are using the solar panel for 10 or more years. Even if we could lessen the need for fossil fuels we would be stepping in the right direction. At night you still need electricity. There are many possible solutions.

Mazda came up with a design to burn Hydrogen gas in a Gas Turbine engine like they use on their sports cars. The normal method is to take hydrogen and use it to make electricity and then run the car off of an electric motor.
 
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