Bush only for Americans?

[walkur]

This is odd, the website www.georgewbush.com cannot be reached from different cities around the world.
I'm in Amsterdam myself and i can't visit the site.

stats from netcraft

 

[ironcrotch]

maybe they banned you.

 

[Czar]

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ah heck hell, why would they do this?

 

[walkur]

ah heck hell, why would they do this?

Maybe he really doesn't care about the rest of the world

 

[Thegonagle]

Originally posted by: walkur

ah heck hell, why would they do this?

Maybe he really doesn't care about the rest of the world

While true , the I suspect the reason is because the rest of the world doesn't care for him; the b*sh website was down for awhile yesterday from a DOS attack, and they probably figured out that it originated from outside the US. Therefore, they probably blocked all non-US traffic to prevent another attack.

EDIT: I admit, I was talking out my ass earlier--just guessing, really. The site was down on the 19th, not yesterday, for unknown reasons according to The Register.

Link: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...locking_non-americans/

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: Thegonagle

Originally posted by: walkur

ah heck hell, why would they do this?

Maybe he really doesn't care about the rest of the world

While true , the I suspect the reason is because the rest of the world doesn't care for him; the b*sh website was down for awhile yesterday from a DOS attack, and they probably figured out that it originated from outside the US. Therefore, they probably blocked all non-US traffic to prevent another attack.

that would explain it, in a sense, not completely sure but if you load up the page you get a standard forbidden text, the server request still goes through so it still can be dos attacked.. I think

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Originally posted by: walkur

ah heck hell, why would they do this?

Maybe he really doesn't care about the rest of the world

Bandwidth costs money. Canadians arn't voting ...

 

[Sunner]

Can't reach it either.
It seems like the developers of DC++ doesn't care for that, since that's where I got the message.
You can use this URL to access it: http://proxy.guardster.com/cgi...6577627573682e636f6d2f
It's extremely slow though, I guess quite a few people are interested...

Interesting that a nation whose citizens often talk about how they are the most freedom loving people on earth has a president that obviously disagrees, showing a total lack of interest in freedom of information.

 

[Sassy]

It's working for me. Try the link again.

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: kissnup
It's working for me. Try the link again.

If your profile is correct, you're in the US, hence allowed to view the site.

 

[Grakatt]

Doesn't work, no. Hmm

 

[Mayax]

Originally posted by: Sunner
Can't reach it either.
It seems like the developers of DC++ doesn't care for that, since that's where I got the message.
You can use this URL to access it: http://proxy.guardster.com/cgi...6577627573682e636f6d2f
It's extremely slow though, I guess quite a few people are interested...

Interesting that a nation whose citizens often talk about how they are the most freedom loving people on earth has a president that obviously disagrees, showing a total lack of interest in freedom of information.

Obviously disagrees? He's not campaigning to the world so there's no reason for you to go to his web-site. You can always go to the Whitehouse web-site if you want information on our government, that's what it's there for.

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: Mayax

Originally posted by: Sunner
Can't reach it either.
It seems like the developers of DC++ doesn't care for that, since that's where I got the message.
You can use this URL to access it: http://proxy.guardster.com/cgi...6577627573682e636f6d2f
It's extremely slow though, I guess quite a few people are interested...

Interesting that a nation whose citizens often talk about how they are the most freedom loving people on earth has a president that obviously disagrees, showing a total lack of interest in freedom of information.

Obviously disagrees? He's not campaigning to the world so there's no reason for you to go to his web-site. You can always go to the Whitehouse web-site if you want information on our government, that's what it's there for.

Is there a particular reason he'd wanna hide his site from the rest of the world?
I have two coworkers who are American citizens, maybe they wanna have a peak?

Obviously there are far more interesting sites out there for me, I would've never thought of visiting his site if it weren't for the fact that they obviously don't want any foreigners to see it.

 

[GoPackGo]

Your ISP could be blocking it as well.

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Your ISP could be blocking it as well.

Read the article on TheReg, as well as my first post.
Everything outside the US is blocked.

 

[Mayax]

Originally posted by: Sunner

Originally posted by: Mayax

Originally posted by: Sunner
Can't reach it either.
It seems like the developers of DC++ doesn't care for that, since that's where I got the message.
You can use this URL to access it: http://proxy.guardster.com/cgi...6577627573682e636f6d2f
It's extremely slow though, I guess quite a few people are interested...

Interesting that a nation whose citizens often talk about how they are the most freedom loving people on earth has a president that obviously disagrees, showing a total lack of interest in freedom of information.

Obviously disagrees? He's not campaigning to the world so there's no reason for you to go to his web-site. You can always go to the Whitehouse web-site if you want information on our government, that's what it's there for.

Is there a particular reason he'd wanna hide his site from the rest of the world?
I have two coworkers who are American citizens, maybe they wanna have a peak?

Obviously there are far more interesting sites out there for me, I would've never thought of visiting his site if it weren't for the fact that they obviously don't want any foreigners to see it.

Good question about American nationals traveling maybe they didn't consider it or didn't think it was cost-effective? As near as I can tell, the site isn't paid for by the government. As for a particular reason, I wouldn't waste money on bandwidth for people who have no say in the election either.

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: Mayax

Originally posted by: Sunner

Originally posted by: Mayax

Originally posted by: Sunner
Can't reach it either.
It seems like the developers of DC++ doesn't care for that, since that's where I got the message.
You can use this URL to access it: http://proxy.guardster.com/cgi...6577627573682e636f6d2f
It's extremely slow though, I guess quite a few people are interested...

Interesting that a nation whose citizens often talk about how they are the most freedom loving people on earth has a president that obviously disagrees, showing a total lack of interest in freedom of information.

Obviously disagrees? He's not campaigning to the world so there's no reason for you to go to his web-site. You can always go to the Whitehouse web-site if you want information on our government, that's what it's there for.

Is there a particular reason he'd wanna hide his site from the rest of the world?
I have two coworkers who are American citizens, maybe they wanna have a peak?

Obviously there are far more interesting sites out there for me, I would've never thought of visiting his site if it weren't for the fact that they obviously don't want any foreigners to see it.

Good question about American nationals traveling maybe they didn't consider it or didn't think it was cost-effective? As near as I can tell, the site isn't paid for by the government. As for a particular reason, I wouldn't waste money on bandwidth for people who have no say in the election either.

Maybe people who aren't in the tech sector shouldn't be allowed to visit AT either?
Or how about people who aren't involved in astronomy, they shouldn't be let into nasa.gov?
And so forth.

As for "they didn't think about it", honestly, if none of them thought about it, maybe they shouldn't be running a country with ~300 million people in it, considering I thought about it while posting on a tech forum?

Also, it's noteworthy that both Ralph Nader's and John Kerry's pages are available to everyone, maybe they have alot more money to burn on bandwidth than Bush&Co?

 

[FelixDeCat]

That'll teach those damn foriegners! :laugh:

 

[Czar]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3958665.stm

The blocking of browsers sited outside the US began in the early hours of Monday morning.

Since then people outside the US trying to browse the site get a message saying they are not authorised to view it.

The blocking does not appear to be due to an attack by vandals or malicious hackers, but as a result of a policy decision by the Bush camp.

On 21 October, the George W Bush website began using the services of a company called Akamai to ensure that the pages, videos and other content on its site reaches visitors.

Mike Prettejohn, president of Netcraft, speculated that the blocking decision might have been taken to cut costs, and traffic, in the run-up to the election on 2 November.

He said the site may see no reason to distribute content to people who will not be voting next week.

Managing traffic could also be a good way to ensure that the site stays working in the closing days of the election campaign.

However, simply blocking non-US visitors also means that Americans overseas are barred too.

Akamai declined to comment, saying it could not talk about customer websites.

 

[piasabird]

Maybe your country is blocking your path to that site.

 

[Mayax]

Originally posted by: Sunner

Originally posted by: Mayax

Originally posted by: Sunner

Originally posted by: Mayax

Originally posted by: Sunner
Can't reach it either.
It seems like the developers of DC++ doesn't care for that, since that's where I got the message.
You can use this URL to access it: http://proxy.guardster.com/cgi...6577627573682e636f6d2f
It's extremely slow though, I guess quite a few people are interested...

Interesting that a nation whose citizens often talk about how they are the most freedom loving people on earth has a president that obviously disagrees, showing a total lack of interest in freedom of information.

Obviously disagrees? He's not campaigning to the world so there's no reason for you to go to his web-site. You can always go to the Whitehouse web-site if you want information on our government, that's what it's there for.

Is there a particular reason he'd wanna hide his site from the rest of the world?
I have two coworkers who are American citizens, maybe they wanna have a peak?

Obviously there are far more interesting sites out there for me, I would've never thought of visiting his site if it weren't for the fact that they obviously don't want any foreigners to see it.

Good question about American nationals traveling maybe they didn't consider it or didn't think it was cost-effective? As near as I can tell, the site isn't paid for by the government. As for a particular reason, I wouldn't waste money on bandwidth for people who have no say in the election either.

Maybe people who aren't in the tech sector shouldn't be allowed to visit AT either?
Or how about people who aren't involved in astronomy, they shouldn't be let into nasa.gov?
And so forth.

As for "they didn't think about it", honestly, if none of them thought about it, maybe they shouldn't be running a country with ~300 million people in it, considering I thought about it while posting on a tech forum?

Also, it's noteworthy that both Ralph Nader's and John Kerry's pages are available to everyone, maybe they have alot more money to burn on bandwidth than Bush&Co?

Now you're just whining like a little french girl. It's not a government web-site. It's paid for by the campaign. The NASA site is government paid for.

You've been given a good reason why, pipe down and deal with it.

The Whitehouse web-site is fully fucntional and you can find everything you need to know about our government there. Enjoy.

If you want to continue with that nonsensical rant, let me get some wine and music so I can savor it better.

I'm used to hearing it in French but I guess I can settle for English.

 

[The Aficionado]

Originally posted by: Sunner

As for "they didn't think about it", honestly, if none of them thought about it, maybe they shouldn't be running a country with ~300 million people in it, considering I thought about it while posting on a tech forum?

??? What's this have to do with his statement that they "didn't think it would be cost effective." Are you denying that that is the case, or was this a reading slip?

Also, it's noteworthy that both Ralph Nader's and John Kerry's pages are available to everyone, maybe they have alot more money to burn on bandwidth than Bush&Co?

No it's not. It's simple cost/benefit. A large number of trolls, assclowns, etc., that cause headaches for the Bush/cheney website staff probably come from the ROTW. Most of their counterparts on the Kerry or Nader websites probably come from within the US. ROTWers have no value to an American political campaign.

A better analogy than that anandtech only for techies/NASA only for astronomers foolishness would be a gaming company (or Anandtech) shutting down access for AOLers after noticing that half of their problem posters have AOL email addresses.

Frankly, your freedom of speech/information arguments are almost as comical as the idea that the Bush administration is intimately involved in the running of their website (or Kerry running his), so I won't bother addressing them.

 

[Forsythe]

I don't really see the problem. It's a private website, he has the rights. And besides, like 80% of the outside world want's Bush to go, so i guess i can understand why. Allthough a shame, i'be had a good few laughs, and some severe scares, in there.

 

[The Stigenator]

BBC Article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3958665.stm

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: Mayax

Originally posted by: Sunner


Also, it's noteworthy that both Ralph Nader's and John Kerry's pages are available to everyone, maybe they have alot more money to burn on bandwidth than Bush&Co?

Now you're just whining like a little french girl. It's not a government web-site. It's paid for by the campaign. The NASA site is government paid for.

You've been given a good reason why, pipe down and deal with it.

The Whitehouse web-site is fully fucntional and you can find everything you need to know about our government there. Enjoy.

If you want to continue with that nonsensical rant, let me get some wine and music so I can savor it better.

I'm used to hearing it in French but I guess I can settle for English.

Good work.
Not only did you not address any of my questions, but you managed to flame the French as well.
Though I guess I shouldn't expect anything else in AT P&N :roll:

Country of the free indeed :roll:

Just one question.
If this is about money(bandwith costs), how much do you think the additional bandwidth from other countries would cost as opposed to other activities in the election campaign?

Honestly, I'd prefer anyone but Bush to win, but I'm not all that concerned, what worries me about the US in general(no matter who wins) is the attitude of the people supporting the political parties.
As long as something goes along the lines of their parties, anything goes.

Now, I'm not overly interested in what www.georgewbush.com has to say, I spent maybe 2-3 minutes looking when I went there through a proxy, what does interest me is that a nation that claims to hold some sort of moral highground on the basis of being "the greatest democracy on earth" shuts others out of their campaign sites for no apparent reason(the bandwidht reason, if you hadn't already figured it out, is bull$hit, nothing more).

That's what I would expect of the regime in China, not of the president of the United States.