Bush questions Edwards' qualifications

MonstaThrilla

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He had 6 years. Re-elected in 1998 after beating Ann Richards in 1994. Mind you, by the Texas Constitution, the office of Governor is the 5th most powerful office in the state...
 

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WaPo Editorial

When you hear Republicans disparage Sen. John Edwards's lack of experience, remember the words of Sen. Orrin Hatch, spoken to George W. Bush at a debate on Dec. 6, 1999.

"You've been a great governor," Hatch declared of his rival for the Republican presidential nomination. "My only problem with you, governor, is that you've only had four and going into your fifth year of governorship. . . . Frankly, I really believe that you need more experience before you become president of the United States. That's why I'm thinking of you as a vice presidential candidate."

Which is exactly what Edwards was chosen for yesterday.
 

crazycarl

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
The RNC is gagging on its own hypocrisy...


I really don't think they care - they just want power and they don't care if they have to be hypocritical or fraudelnt, or, whever, to get it.
 

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"Dick Cheney can be president," Bush said briskly.
I'm not sure which bothers me more, Mr. Haliburton as president, or four more years of Bush-lite. Cheyney isn't a dummy, but he's not what I would call well motivated, and Bush is an intellectual featherweight who's being lead around by Cheyney and the rest of the neo-cons, along with the dogmatic religious right.

Either one is a major screw for the U.S. :frown:
 

Strk

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It is so humorous that Bush and his supporters are criticizing Edwards for his lack of experience. Let's see, he will be finishing up one term in the Senate(As someone stated earlier, the same amount of time Bush spent as governor) to possibly become the next Vice President. Seriously, Edwards isn't running as for the big seat, who cares if he has only served 1 term in the Senate?
 

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it doesn't have to be a statement of fact to be an effective message ,the more they repeat it the more it'll ring true with some voters and damage the 'team' of edwards/kerry ,maybe bush and edwards should have a debate ,that'd be some fun
 

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Originally posted by: daveshel
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When Bush became president, he had 2 years' experience as the Governor of Texas, and no federal experience. So where does he get off saying someone whe has served as a senator for 6 years lacks experience?

Bush was elected as Gov of Texas in 1994 and 1998, thats 6 years. John Edwards cant even get re-elected as Senator of North Carolina. Theres a reason why he choose not to run for a second term.

Edwards made quite a few gaffes on policy during the democratic party primaries. He either didnt know what a program/law was or thought it was the opposite of what it actually was.
 

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
The RNC is gagging on its own hypocrisy...


Maybe we should reprint some of the great things Kerry said about Edwards during the primaries then decide who the hypocrite really is.

Edwards was not Kerry's first or even second choice. But, after being snubbed by his first choice and saying repeatedly he just wasn't comfortable with Edwards, a poll was taken and, predictably, Kerry did the floor exercise move he has become famous for.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: UltraQuiet
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
The RNC is gagging on its own hypocrisy...


Maybe we should reprint some of the great things Kerry said about Edwards during the primaries then decide who the hypocrite really is.
Go ahead. I have plenty of things showing McCain criticizing Bush.


Edwards was not Kerry's first or even second choice. But, after being snubbed by his first choice and saying repeatedly he just wasn't comfortable with Edwards, a poll was taken and, predictably, Kerry did the floor exercise move he has become famous for.
Oh? You know this how?
 

MonstaThrilla

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Originally posted by: UltraQuiet
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
The RNC is gagging on its own hypocrisy...


Maybe we should reprint some of the great things Kerry said about Edwards during the primaries then decide who the hypocrite really is.

Edwards was not Kerry's first or even second choice. But, after being snubbed by his first choice and saying repeatedly he just wasn't comfortable with Edwards, a poll was taken and, predictably, Kerry did the floor exercise move he has become famous for.

Take off your partisan hat and realize that ALL politicians will be caught in hypocrisy.

Here's John McCain on March 18th on the Today Show:

I'm not running for vice president. President Bush in 2000 asked me if I was interested in being vice president. I said no then. I'm not interested in being vice president now.

Looks like Cheney wasn't Bush's first choice either.
 

UltraQuiet

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: UltraQuiet
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
The RNC is gagging on its own hypocrisy...


Maybe we should reprint some of the great things Kerry said about Edwards during the primaries then decide who the hypocrite really is.
Go ahead. I have plenty of things showing McCain criticizing Bush.

Was McCain on the ticket afterwards? No, he wasn't. That's a stupid argument even coming from you.

Edwards was not Kerry's first or even second choice. But, after being snubbed by his first choice and saying repeatedly he just wasn't comfortable with Edwards, a poll was taken and, predictably, Kerry did the floor exercise move he has become famous for.
Oh? You know this how?

[/b]Try reading some of the things you link to. You can read can't you? I realize that your commentless cut and paste endeavors is nothing more than bumping your lifer/loser post count but surely your trio of brain cells occasionally retain a word or two.[/b]
 

Todd33

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Not to mention Bush Sr. said some pretty bad stuff about Reagan in 80 (Voodoo economics anyone?). Who cares what Kerry said about Edwards during the primaries? Oh ya, the repubs are getting scared , so say anything and see what sticks.
 

MonstaThrilla

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Originally posted by: UltraQuiet
Try reading some of the things you link to. You can read can't you? I realize that your commentless cut and paste endeavors is nothing more than bumping your lifer/loser post count but surely your trio of brain cells occasionally retain a word or two.

And the oh so mature "you dumb internet nerd loser!" insults start being hurled...
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: UltraQuiet
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: UltraQuiet
Maybe we should reprint some of the great things Kerry said about Edwards during the primaries then decide who the hypocrite really is.
Go ahead. I have plenty of things showing McCain criticizing Bush.
Was McCain on the ticket afterwards? No, he wasn't. That's a stupid argument even coming from you.
No, but Bush is using McCain in his latest campaign ads. The respect level of McCain has dropped significantly in the last few days in the eyes of moderate Republicans such as myself.


Edwards was not Kerry's first or even second choice. But, after being snubbed by his first choice and saying repeatedly he just wasn't comfortable with Edwards, a poll was taken and, predictably, Kerry did the floor exercise move he has become famous for.
Oh? You know this how?
Try reading some of the things you link to. You can read can't you? I realize that your commentless cut and paste endeavors is nothing more than bumping your lifer/loser post count but surely your trio of brain cells occasionally retain a word or two.
I read quite well.

Now, answer the question.
 

T2T III

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I realize that your commentless cut and paste endeavors is nothing more than bumping your lifer/loser post count but surely your trio of brain cells occasionally retain a word or two.


Oh my ...
 

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Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla


Looks like Cheney wasn't Bush's first choice either.

Bush didn't even pick Cheney. Cheney chose himself.

Bush had a team of people that were supposed to pick him a V.P. candidate. The leader of this team was Cheney, CEO of Haliburton. At the end of their work, Cheney decided he was the best pick.
Cheney then made a deal with Haliburton to leave with a $34 million retirement package instead of having to quit the company.
 

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Originally posted by: sapiens74
I get 2 oil cronies or a billionare and trial lawyer

How sad is this election?

Worse yet, he's a personal injury trial attorney.
 

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The Best Choice

By E. J. Dionne Jr.

Wednesday, July 7, 2004; Page A19


When you hear Republicans disparage Sen. John Edwards's lack of experience, remember the words of Sen. Orrin Hatch, spoken to George W. Bush at a debate on Dec. 6, 1999.

"You've been a great governor," Hatch declared of his rival for the Republican presidential nomination. "My only problem with you, governor, is that you've only had four and going into your fifth year of governorship. . . . Frankly, I really believe that you need more experience before you become president of the United States. That's why I'm thinking of you as a vice presidential candidate."

Which is exactly what Edwards was chosen for yesterday.

Republicans were in a foul mood because Kerry's choice of Edwards as his running mate muddied up all the story lines they were itching to trot out. To understand why Edwards was the best choice for Kerry, consider what the Republicans (and, yes, the media) would have said if the nod had gone instead to Rep. Richard Gephardt, the clear runner-up in the vice presidential stakes.

Kerry would have been described as "insecure" at the prospect of standing next to the "charismatic" and "populist" Edwards. Fearing being "upstaged" by the equally ambitious Edwards, Kerry would have been accused of making the "obvious," "uninspired" and "comfortable" choice. Gephardt's experience would have been trotted out to turn him into the "tired" face of the "old" Democratic Party. It would also have been said that Kerry, the "elitist Massachusetts liberal," had "written off" the South and rural America.

This would have been unfair to the decent Dick Gephardt, Kerry's sentimental favorite. But Kerry's political advisers knew the price of picking the old warhorse, which is why they formed an Edwards lobby inside the campaign. Kerry, who had known Edwards mostly as a rival, concluded that Edwards would be a loyal partner -- Edwards's political future now depends entirely on being a great running mate -- and the one choice who could expand the campaign's reach.

Putting a Southerner on the ticket was essential. Since 1960 five of the eight Democratic tickets that included a Southerner have been elected. The tickets without a Southerner went 0 for 3. Edwards allows Democrats to contest North Carolina, Florida, Louisiana, Virginia and Arkansas. Democratic optimists -- yes, it's a stretch -- think Edwards's native South Carolina might also be in reach.

Forcing the president to compete on terrain he had mostly considered safe alters the election's dynamics. And in the primaries, Edwards's appeal seemed strongest in constituencies that the Democrats must win over. He ran especially well among rural voters and appealed simultaneously to blue-collar whites and upper-middle-class professionals.

The key to Edwards's twin appeal -- to upscale voters and to those trying to climb the ladder or helping their kids do it -- was explained many years ago by the great American sociologist Seymour Martin Lipset. Lipset argued that the two core American values were "equality" and "achievement." Americans want a level playing field and don't like people who put on airs. But they also admire strivers. Edwards can give his "two Americas" and "dad in the mill" speech as someone who used the education system to rise up and get rich. That's the American story.

Ah, but he got rich as one of those "trial lawyers," Republicans were quick to say. This fight over trial lawyers will be one of the campaign's great sideshows. The Republicans failed with the anti-lawyer gambit against Edwards when he was first elected to the Senate in 1998. Here's a bet that when trial lawyers are paired up against corporations that abuse their power, Edwards's profession will have a fighting chance.

Republicans grumbled that Edwards was Kerry's "second choice" after Republican John McCain. Can't blame the GOP for trying. But it's hard to think voters will hold it against Kerry that he tried to reach out to Republicans during a period of rancid partisanship.

Oh, yes, and one more point on that experience thing: "When it comes time to make the decision to send our young men and women into harm's way, that decision should be made by a leader who knows that such decisions have profound consequences. There comes a time when our nation's leader can no longer rely on briefing books and talking points." That was McCain in 1999. He was talking about the man who became our current president. You wonder which side will be most eager to cite that quotation.
 

MonstaThrilla

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: sapiens74
I get 2 oil cronies or a billionare and trial lawyer

How sad is this election?

Worse yet, he's a personal injury trial attorney.

Damn him for representing a little girl who had over half her intesting ripped out by a faulty swimming pool suction drain!!

DAMN HIM TO HELL!!!
 
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