Bush rebounding in polls

OneOfTheseDays

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latest Rasmussen poll shows Bush at 46% and Kerry at 45%. Margin of error is around 3% IIRC. It's neck and neck, nobody has any sort of "lead".
 

Red Dawn

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According to Dick Morris, a past presidentail advisor to Clinton, a Political Analyst for Fox News and a cross dressing philanderer, a tie in the polls now would translate into a landslide victory for Kerry. Busg has a lot of work ahead of him if he wants to keep his job.
 

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
According to Dick Morris, a past presidentail advisor to Clinton, a Political Analyst for Fox News and a cross dressing philanderer, a tie in the polls now would translate into a landslide victory for Kerry. Busg has a lot of work ahead of him if he wants to keep his job.

Don't forget: Toe-sucker.
 
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Interesting little uptick, but probably not significant of much. President Reagan's death happened at an opportune time for the Bush campaign, who were having a tough run for a while there, and the employment numbers surely stimulated support for the President as well.

At this point things are clearly neck and neck. I hope to see some debates, sooner rather than later.
 

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looks like riding on reagans coffin tails paid off slightly. but in 5 months nobody will remember
 
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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
I WANNA SEE SOME DEBATES!!!!!!!!!

have they even had any so far?

No. I'd have to think the Bush campaign would approach these with great care and deliberation. It should make for an interesting contest, in that Kerry is clearly more articulate, but it's easy to imagine his Lurch-ish presentation turning people off. We shall see . . .
 

DT4K

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Originally posted by: rickn
looks like riding on reagans coffin tails paid off slightly. but in 5 months nobody will remember

That is far too simplistic.

Reagans death has helped Bush's popularity because people have been looking back at Reagan and seeing that Bush shares the same strength of opinion, love for the country, and willingness to do what is politically unpopular when he thinks it is the right thing to do for the future. Bush is not swayed by polls like Kerry and Clinton. Neither was Reagan when he did some of the very controversial things he did like putting missiles in Europe to counteract the threat of the Soviet sr22's. People were outraged at the time and called him a warmonger. But now, people look back and can equate the war on terrorism with the cold war. Politically unpopular and widely slammed by the opposition as being extremely dangerous, but viewed as being the right thing to do in retrospect. Whether Reagan was responsible for the collapse of the USSR is obviously debatable, but clearly some people view it that way and can make comparison's to Bush's war on terror.
 

DT4K

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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
I WANNA SEE SOME DEBATES!!!!!!!!!

have they even had any so far?

Debate text.

What would you do to fight terrorism?
Bush: We have to act when there is a threat.
Kerry: I was in Vietnam, you know.

What is your view on taxes?
Bush: We need to keep the tax cuts, they are working.
Kerry: I was in Vietnam, you know.

What is your view on abortion?
Bush: It is wrong.
Kerry: I was in Vietnam, you know.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Don_Vito
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
I WANNA SEE SOME DEBATES!!!!!!!!!

have they even had any so far?

No. I'd have to think the Bush campaign would approach these with great care and deliberation. It should make for an interesting contest, in that Kerry is clearly more articulate, but it's easy to imagine his Lurch-ish presentation turning people off. We shall see . . .
Lurch..err Kerry would have a distinct advantage though as he would have the Dub's performance as President to lambast.
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
I WANNA SEE SOME DEBATES!!!!!!!!!

have they even had any so far?
Folks, what you have to remember is that when there are "debates" they won't be real debates in any recognizable sense of the term, but rather mutual photo ops with each talking head fielding predictable questions from a moderator chosen for his innocuous subservience.

Kerry will not be allowed to grill Bush (nor vice versa). Neither candidate will even be allowed to address the other. How can anyone call such a milli-vanilli farce a debate. Both sides know that Bush could never survive even 10 minutes of a true unscripted debate without being horribly exposed.

Ten bucks to the first person to spot Cheney hiding under Bush's lecturn! :roll:
 

SoylentGreen

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With the present administrations track record I find it astounding that 46% of people still support a moron. The fact that Kerry is the best the Dems can come up with just goes to prove they don't have anything to offer. However, I'm with the "Anyone but" philosphy. That is the action taken by me since anyone but Gore seemed like a good idea. This country is going to hell.

The intelligence is lacking in the general populace anyhow. All you need to do is just cite any stats where simple geography, history, science questions are asked and how many get them wrong. So I guess the polls do not suprise me
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
I WANNA SEE SOME DEBATES!!!!!!!!!

have they even had any so far?
Folks, what you have to remember is that when there are "debates" they won't be real debates in any recognizable sense of the term, but rather mutual photo ops with each talking head fielding predictable questions from a moderator chosen for his innocuous subservience.

Kerry will not be allowed to grill Bush (nor vice versa). Neither candidate will even be allowed to address the other. How can anyone call such a milli-vanilli farce a debate. Both sides know that Bush could never survive even 10 minutes of a true unscripted debate without being horribly exposed.

Ten bucks to the first person to spot Cheney hiding under Bush's lecturn! :roll:
Watch it, all the Dick Lovers are going to start calling you a Bush Hater
 

Michael

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Perknose - In 2000, everyone said that Gore would destroy Bush when they got up and debated. Bush was dumb and couldn't stand up to that level of discussion. All the polls then showed that Bush beat Gore. Are you laying the groundwork to ease the disappointment if Bush does the same to Kerry?

If Bush is so dumb, how did he win last time? If he is so dumb, then how did he lead the Republicans to more seats in 2002? If he is so dumb, how did he manage to get such huge votes for the war against Iraq?

Please, keep up with the stories and thoughts that he just can't handle it. Even though result after result proves otherwise.

Personally, I want him nailed with tough WMD questions with follow-ups to make sure he fully answers the question.

Michael
 

digitalsm

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Kerry may be articulate, but if ANYONE saw him in the Democratic Debates during the primaries they would know he sucks at debating. His only advantage, could prove to be his disadvantage. If he gets up there and lambasts Bush's presidency, hes going to lose.

People underestimate Bush's political team...
 

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Originally posted by: Michael
Perknose - In 2000, everyone said that Gore would destroy Bush when they got up and debated. Bush was dumb and couldn't stand up to that level of discussion. All the polls then showed that Bush beat Gore. Are you laying the groundwork to ease the disappointment if Bush does the same to Kerry?

If Bush is so dumb, how did he win last time? If he is so dumb, then how did he lead the Republicans to more seats in 2002? If he is so dumb, how did he manage to get such huge votes for the war against Iraq?

Please, keep up with the stories and thoughts that he just can't handle it. Even though result after result proves otherwise.

Personally, I want him nailed with tough WMD questions with follow-ups to make sure he fully answers the question.

Michael

the left said the same thing about reagan. this is just who they are.
 

heartsurgeon

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PEW research center
here is a link to the actual poll....

looks good for Bush..

sentiment about the Iraq war is improving..
the Dems whole self-admitted strategy is that Bush will win or lose based upon Iraq..and that Kerry should keep his mouth shut and merely be the "anyone but Bush" candidate.

well, that isn't gonna work..
according to the poll:

Americans are paying markedly less attention to Iraq than in the last two months. At the same time, their opinions about the war have become more positive. The number of Americans who think the U.S. military effort is going well has jumped from 46% in May to 57%, despite ongoing violence in Iraq and the widening prison abuse scandal. And the percentage of the public who believes it was right to go to war inched up to 55%, from 51% in May.

The new Pew survey indicates that many Americans are becoming less connected to the news about Iraq and possibly more hardened to events there. Just 39% say they are tracking developments in Iraq very closely ? down 15 points since April and the lowest level this year. In addition, 35% say that people they know are becoming less emotionally involved with the news from Iraq, a sharp increase from 26% last month.

yep...they think Bush is back on track, they don't really care about Abu Ghraib, they believe it was the rightthing to invade iraq, they are less effected by "bad news" from iraq"

this should cause the liberals on this forum to froth and spew

Favorable views of Kerry have slipped since his successful run through the Democratic primaries, as opinions of the presumptive Democratic nominee have grown more partisan. Currently, 50% have a positive impression of the Massachusetts Democrat ? down from 58% in February ? while negative opinions have increased sharply, from 28% to 41%.

he's losing traction the more he stays away from the cameras and news...problem is, he may lose more traction by opening his mouth!

here's another finding to make the libs froth at the mouth..
Bush's favorable ratings are largely driven by positive evaluations of his personality. In an open-ended format, 65% of those who expressed a favorable opinion of Bush cited his personal characteristics ? especially honesty, leadership and his religious beliefs

finally, who will the winner be: libs grind their teeth flat again:
Roughly half of voters (51%) think Bush is most likely to win, while 35% say Kerry. Despite some increase in confidence, Kerry backers continue to express far less optimism about their candidate's chances than do Bush backers. By an 81% to 8% margin, voters who support George W. Bush think he, not Kerry, will prevail in November. By comparison, 64% of Kerry backers pick their candidate as the likely victor, while 23% think Bush will end up winning

it's a good day in the polls for W!
 

DanceMan

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Originally posted by: Michael
Perknose - In 2000, everyone said that Gore would destroy Bush when they got up and debated. Bush was dumb and couldn't stand up to that level of discussion. All the polls then showed that Bush beat Gore. Are you laying the groundwork to ease the disappointment if Bush does the same to Kerry?

If Bush is so dumb, how did he win last time? If he is so dumb, then how did he lead the Republicans to more seats in 2002? If he is so dumb, how did he manage to get such huge votes for the war against Iraq?

Please, keep up with the stories and thoughts that he just can't handle it. Even though result after result proves otherwise.

Personally, I want him nailed with tough WMD questions with follow-ups to make sure he fully answers the question.

Michael

I have a different theory: America loves the more everyday, plain non-descript kinda guy. No, scratch that: Americans would rather generally side with mediocrity than excellence. Your typical person would rather side with someone with 'average' education and intelligence rather than much higher education and intelligence. Also, they look more at personality rather than experience and intelligence. Gore, according to the press, did win the debates. However, Gore came off like the super-knowledgeable, over eager student, and he just didn't have the personality. Bush was lucky the first time. He didn't have a record (that we heard much about, anyway), the country was suffering from Clintonitis, so all he really had to do was just spout off some uplifting promises and generic platitudes and not directly answer Gore in order to 'win' the debates.

It's a little more difficult this time, but Bush still will be able to capatalize from voters who say "yep, he screwed up, but he's trying!". It's difficult for Kerry to ask tough questions of Bush, because many people will then feel sorry for the President and his more limited intellectual and verbal skills, and that's it's a "very, very bad thing that Kerry did, beating up on the President like that."

So, the debates, as Perknose rightly says, will be nothing but a scripted photo-op, with little in the way of substance.
 

Hossenfeffer

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If we only had a better damn candidate than Kerry. Bleh. He's got my vote, but oh do I wish he was a stronger choice.
 

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
According to Dick Morris, a past presidentail advisor to Clinton, a Political Analyst for Fox News and a cross dressing philanderer, a tie in the polls now would translate into a landslide victory for Kerry. Busg has a lot of work ahead of him if he wants to keep his job.

i heard the same, the undecided tend to vote for the incumbent
 

Zebo

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If Bush is so dumb, how did he win last time?
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People voting are dumber than he?
 

Zebo

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I told you guys to stop paying attention to these polls. Bush will win. Never has a war sitting president lost and senators always loose cause of all thier baggage. And kerry about a likable as in grown hair.
 
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