Bush to hold talks about Ali G

Jun 27, 2005
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Apparently he has nothing better to do...

Bush to hold talks on Ali G creator after diplomatic row
Last updated at 16:11pm on 12th September 2006

US President George Bush is to host White House talks on British comedian Sacha Baron Cohen.

Cohen, 35, creator of Ali G, has infuriated the Kazakhstan government with his portrayal of Borat, a bumbling Kazakh TV presenter.

And now a movie of Borat's adventures in the US has caused a diplomatic incident.

The opening scene, which shows Borat lustily kissing his sister goodbye and setting off for America in a car pulled by a horse, had audiences in stitches when it was first shown last week.

But the film, which has just premiered at the Toronto Film Festival, has prompted a swift reaction from the Kazakhstan government, which is launching a PR blitz in the States.

Kazakhstan president Nursultan Nazarbayev is to fly to the US to meet President Bush in the coming weeks and on the agenda will be his country's image.

President Nazarbayev has confirmed his government will buy "educational" TV spots and print advertisements about the "real Kazakhstan" in a bid to save the country's reputation before the film is released in the US in November.

President Nazarbayev will visit the White House and the Bush family compound in Maine when he flies in for talks that will include the fictional character Borat.

But a spokesman for the Kazakhstan Embassy says it is unlikely that President Nazarbayev will find the film funny.

Roman Vassilenko said: "The Government has expressed its displeasure about Borat's representation of our country.

"Our opinion of the character has not changed.

"We understand that the film exposes the hypocrisy that exists both here in the USA and in the UK and understand that Mr Cohen has a right to freedom of speech.

"Nursultan Nazarbayev has taken Mr Bush up on an invitation to visit this country to help build our relationship with the USA.

"I cannot speak for the president himself, only for the government, but I certainly don't think President Nazarbayev and Mr Bush will share a joke about the film.

"The bottom line is we want people to know that he does not represent the true people of Kazakhstan."

The Kazakh government has previously threatened Baron-Cohen with legal action, for allowing Borat to, among other things, make fun of his homeland, demean women, slander gypsies and urge listeners to "Throw the Jew Down the Well."

Anti-Borat hard-liners have pulled the plug on borat.kz, Borat's Kazakhstan-based Website after his frequent displays of anti-Semitism and his portrayal of Kazakh culture.

Nurlan Isin, President of the Association of Kazakh IT Companies took the action after complaints.

He said: "We've done this so he can't badmouth Kazakhstan under the .kz domain name.

"He can go and do whatever he wants at other domains."

The row originally erupted in November 2005, following Borat's hosting of the MTV Europe Music Awards in Lisbon.

The Kazakh Foreign Ministry was furious over Cohen's bad taste representation of the nation.

'No such thing as bad publicity'

Foreign Ministry spokesman Yerzhan Ashykbayev told a news conference: "We view Mr. Cohen's behaviour at the MTV Europe Music Awards as utterly unacceptable, being a concoction of bad taste and ill manners which is completely incompatible with the ethics and civilized behaviour of Kazakhstan's people.

"We reserve the right to any legal action to prevent new pranks of the kind."

Baron Cohen responded to Ashykbayev in character by posting a video on the Official Borat website.

In the video, Borat said, "In response to Mr. Ashykbayev's comments, I'd like to state I have no connection with Mr. Cohen and fully support my Government's decision to sue this Jew.

"Since the 2003 Tuleyakiv reforms, Kazakhstan is as civilized as any other country in the world.

"Women can now travel on inside of bus, homosexuals no longer have to wear blue hats, and age of consent has been raised to eight years old."

His blatant outpouring then prompted the Kazakh government to hire two public relations firms to counter the claims, and ran a four-page advertisement in The New York Times.

The ad carried testimonials about the nation's democracy, education system and the power and influence enjoyed by women. News of President Nazarbayev's upcoming visit has prompted experts to study the character's impact on US culture.

Sean R. Roberts, Central Asian Affairs Fellow at Georgetown University, has been studying the phenomenon.

He said: "I have found that more Americans are aware of Kazakhstan than four years ago when I last lived in the United States.

"The increased knowledge of Kazakhstan, however, is not due to the country's economic successes or its role as a U.S. ally in the war on terror.

"Instead, most Americans who have heard of Kazakhstan have heard of it through a satire of a Kazakh journalist named Borat.

"Borat certainly does not promote an image of Kazakhstan that is in sync with that which the government and its leader would like to promote abroad.

"As the old adage goes, however, 'there is no such thing as bad publicity.'

"If that is true, Borat is bringing much more publicity to Kazakhstan."

Cohen's representatives refused to allow him or his alter ego to respond to the controversy because it's not close enough to the film's release date.
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Are we so used to insulting the world that we automatically extend knee-jerk apologies when anyone gets offended?

Note to Dubbya: Sacha Cohen is BRITTISH. I know it can be confusing since he speaks english and americans speak english... and americans were once brittish (brittish people were never americans tho...) But trust me on this one, America didn't insult Kazakhstan.

Note to Kazakhstan: Get a sense of humor. And a clue.

 

bobdelt

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And Bush refused to talk to him, I'm sure most of you would be saying this like "there Bush goes again, creating enemies..."
 

wetech

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Nursultan Nazarbayev has taken Mr Bush up on an invitation to visit this country to help build our relationship with the USA.

The article doesn't say that the talks are solely about Borat, just that they'll include them. My guess is that most of the time spent will be on slightly more important matters.
 

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I used to surf pass his show on the tube. Two years ago, I was at a batchelor party in NJ waiting for the Russians to come down from NY with the strippers, with nothing much else to do but drink, which we pretty much had been at since the early afternoon.

Someone popped in a string of episodes.

Borat at some place like Colonial Williamsburg repeatedly trying to buy the women enactors from the prissy curator. I laughed and laughed. And to think, all it took was a few extra drinks.
 

lyssword

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loll... educate american public about kazakhstan with tv spots? lmao, don't bother.. That will prolly be funnier than that borat movie..
 

alien42

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it will be very interesting to see the bush response/reaction to the great nursultan nazarbayev. while the whole ali g portion is a joke, this 'white house hosting' will be quite telling of the president.

a more serious news story

"an autocrat who runs a nation that is anything but free and who has been accused by U.S. prosecutors of pocketing the bulk of $78 million in bribes from an American businessman. Not only will President Nursultan Nazarbayev visit the White House, people involved say, but he also will travel to the Bush family compound in Maine."

"Nazarbayev has banned opposition parties, intimidated the press and profited from his post, according to the U.S. government."

"go to trial in (US) federal court in January to prove that he was paid off in the 1990s by a U.S. banker seeking to influence oil rights. Although the banker faces prison time, Nazarbayev has not been charged and has called the allegations illegitimate."

"Nazarbayev visited the Bush White House in 2001 -- before the Justice Department filed a case in 2003 alleging that he had taken bribes and before the president issued a 2004 proclamation banning corrupt foreign officials from visiting the United States. A State Department official said hundreds of foreign officials have been denied visas under Bush's proclamation but could not explain how it would not apply in Nazarbayev's case."
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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He is jewish, and once went to a redneck bar acting like 'borat', singing a song about how the jews were the source of all problems in 'his country'. All the rednecks were cheering, clapping, tapping their feet and singing along.
 

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US President George Bush is to host White House talks on British comedian Sacha Baron Cohen.



How does this have anything to do with the US? Or any government for that matter, have talks with the guy or the studio or something. This is just bizarre. And extremely hilarious.
 

yllus

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I think this is one of those cases where the talks really are about oil, and not whatever the cover story is.

Kazakh President To Seek To Boost US Ties During Visit:
ASTANA, Kazakhstan (AP)--Kazakh President Nursultan Nazarbayev signaled Wednesday he will seek stronger ties with Washington during his planned visit there this month.

"A time has come when we can raise our relations to a completely new level," the energy-rich ex-Soviet republic's long-serving leader told reporters in the capital Astana. He said he expects his talks with Bush to focus "mostly" on economic issues such as Kazakhstan's accession to the World Trade Organization.
 

ayabe

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So in Kazakhistan they don't beat gypsies and shoot dogs for sport? I find that highly unlikely.
 
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Originally posted by: MikeO
US President George Bush is to host White House talks on British comedian Sacha Baron Cohen.



How does this have anything to do with the US? Or any government for that matter, have talks with the guy or the studio or something. This is just bizarre. And extremely hilarious.

This is what made me spit my beer through my nose...
His blatant outpouring then prompted the Kazakh government to hire two public relations firms to counter the claims, and ran a four-page advertisement in The New York Times.
It's a movie! I can't even comprehend the logic... It just makes me laugh.
 

techs

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It's that darn pesky Bill of Rights again. Good thing to Bush its "only a god d*mned piece of paper"
 
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Baron Cohen responded to Ashykbayev in character by posting a video on the Official Borat website.

In the video, Borat said, "In response to Mr. Ashykbayev's comments, I'd like to state I have no connection with Mr. Cohen and fully support my Government's decision to sue this Jew."

Long live Sacha Baron Cohen!

 

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Originally posted by: techs
It's that darn pesky Bill of Rights again. Good thing to Bush its "only a god d*mned piece of paper"

If that's all it was to Bush, do you really think he'd let idiots like you be walking free?
 
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Originally posted by: techs
It's that darn pesky Bill of Rights again. Good thing to Bush its "only a god d*mned piece of paper"

Thanks for perpetuating another urban legend. Let it die...
 

Pens1566

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Originally posted by: techs
It's that darn pesky Bill of Rights again. Good thing to Bush its "only a god d*mned piece of paper"

I thought it was the constitution??

And to the "urban legend" comment: it was quoted in a newspaper with no retraction. Also, I don't seem to recall any complaints from the usually whiny white house press secretary on the matter.
 
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