Bush: Workin Hard for America

StageLeft

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Overall quite impressive, especially the unemployment number. Some of the numbers in there are a bit misleading, but overall that was informative. Did we need the cheesy crap with him doing PR pretending to help out some blue collars building a house though? That is always SO cheesy. If I was a politician I wouldn't do that crap - I guess that's why nobody will ever vote for me
 

Triumph

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I don't argue with the numbers, but I just don't think that the president alone has such a huge effect on the economy. I really think it's the other way around - how the economy is going dictates who will be in office. Poor economy, incumbent gets booted. Good economy, incumbent keeps his seat. That doesn't mean that prosperity is because of the President's actions.
 

Viper GTS

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Originally posted by: Triumph
I don't argue with the numbers, but I just don't think that the president alone has such a huge effect on the economy. I really think it's the other way around - how the economy is going dictates who will be in office. Poor economy, incumbent gets booted. Good economy, incumbent keeps his seat. That doesn't mean that prosperity is because of the President's actions.

While I would agree that the President doesn't have much impact on the economy, the anti-Bush crowd is very fond of blaming him for the economy.

If they're going to blame him they should at least get their facts straight (and in context - Compared to their beloved Bill).

Only idiots would place blame for an economy on the president. The tech bubble's pop was predicted while Clinton was still in office, but he had nothing to do with it.

Viper GTS
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: Triumph
I don't argue with the numbers, but I just don't think that the president alone has such a huge effect on the economy. I really think it's the other way around - how the economy is going dictates who will be in office. Poor economy, incumbent gets booted. Good economy, incumbent keeps his seat. That doesn't mean that prosperity is because of the President's actions.

While I would agree that the President doesn't have much impact on the economy, the anti-Bush crowd is very fond of blaming him for the economy.

If they're going to blame him they should at least get their facts straight (and in context - Compared to their beloved Bill).

Only idiots would place blame for an economy on the president. The tech bubble's pop was predicted while Clinton was still in office, but he had nothing to do with it.

Viper GTS


bingo
 

Triumph

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: Triumph
I don't argue with the numbers, but I just don't think that the president alone has such a huge effect on the economy. I really think it's the other way around - how the economy is going dictates who will be in office. Poor economy, incumbent gets booted. Good economy, incumbent keeps his seat. That doesn't mean that prosperity is because of the President's actions.

While I would agree that the President doesn't have much impact on the economy, the anti-Bush crowd is very fond of blaming him for the economy.

If they're going to blame him they should at least get their facts straight (and in context - Compared to their beloved Bill).

Only idiots would place blame for an economy on the president. The tech bubble's pop was predicted while Clinton was still in office, but he had nothing to do with it.

Viper GTS

Although I'm not a Bush supporter, I don't disagree with you.
 

Quixfire

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Originally posted by: Triumph
I don't argue with the numbers, but I just don't think that the president alone has such a huge effect on the economy. I really think it's the other way around - how the economy is going dictates who will be in office. Poor economy, incumbent gets booted. Good economy, incumbent keeps his seat. That doesn't mean that prosperity is because of the President's actions.
I agree completely. I didn't give Clinton credit for the Internet boom and I don't blame Bush the economic downturn due to the terrorists attacks on 9/11.
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: Quixfire
Originally posted by: Triumph
I don't argue with the numbers, but I just don't think that the president alone has such a huge effect on the economy. I really think it's the other way around - how the economy is going dictates who will be in office. Poor economy, incumbent gets booted. Good economy, incumbent keeps his seat. That doesn't mean that prosperity is because of the President's actions.
I agree completely. I didn't give Clinton credit for the Internet boom and I don't blame Bush the economic downturn do to the terrorists attacks on 9/11.

Holy smokes, signs of intelligence and reason! This is ATOT, right?
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: Triumph
I don't argue with the numbers, but I just don't think that the president alone has such a huge effect on the economy. I really think it's the other way around - how the economy is going dictates who will be in office. Poor economy, incumbent gets booted. Good economy, incumbent keeps his seat. That doesn't mean that prosperity is because of the President's actions.

While I would agree that the President doesn't have much impact on the economy, the anti-Bush crowd is very fond of blaming him for the economy.

If they're going to blame him they should at least get their facts straight (and in context - Compared to their beloved Bill).

Only idiots would place blame for an economy on the president. The tech bubble's pop was predicted while Clinton was still in office, but he had nothing to do with it.

Viper GTS


Well put.
 

halik

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Originally posted by: Triumph
I don't argue with the numbers, but I just don't think that the president alone has such a huge effect on the economy. I really think it's the other way around - how the economy is going dictates who will be in office. Poor economy, incumbent gets booted. Good economy, incumbent keeps his seat. That doesn't mean that prosperity is because of the President's actions.

yeah you can,
poverty went down after Clintons welfare reforms (as far as i've read so far, bush hasnt done anything poverty-wise) and uneployment went up .2 % this month...
 

Quixfire

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Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Triumph
I don't argue with the numbers, but I just don't think that the president alone has such a huge effect on the economy. I really think it's the other way around - how the economy is going dictates who will be in office. Poor economy, incumbent gets booted. Good economy, incumbent keeps his seat. That doesn't mean that prosperity is because of the President's actions.

yeah you can,
poverty went down after Clintons welfare reforms (as far as i've read so far, bush hasnt done anything poverty-wise) and uneployment went up .2 % this month...
IIRC, the Republican Congress past those reforms Clinton had very little to do with it.
 

Ausm

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Washoe
I don't blame Bush the economic downturn do to the terrorists attacks on 9/11.

I am sure George appreciates that.

I sure as hell would not want to have been in his shoes during that crisis!!


Sysadmin
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
I'm just wondering where the hell they got these numbers from, I mean, as long as we're into proverbial stats, shiet... might as well say California is once again the strongest economy in the world.

<a class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=38&threadid=1282595" target=blank>From the man himself, why the economy is affected by his decisions.</A>

For some reasons, I thought surely something funny would pop up at the end, but I was gravely disappointed.
don't let the facts get in the way of your prejudice...

 

sillymofo

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Originally posted by: Mwilding
don't let the facts get in the way of your prejudice...
Facts? Where? Take a look around, how can you, or any one say that unemployment is down?

If you, or any one who would believe anything the government and the media tells them, without questioning it, then who is really naive here?
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: cr4zymofoIf you, or any one who would believe anything the government and the media tells them, without questioning it, then who is really naive here?
That - coming from one who spouts forth so much utterly obvious BS with no possible underlying fact - is such a lame response it is unanswerable....

 
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