Bush's response is not adequate

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
How many threads are we going to have asking this identical question?

I think it's called flooding the zone (no pun intended as it isn't funny).
The fringe left is spinning themselves into a tizzy over this because they just know that if they throw enough tripe out there that the MSM is going to take the bait on atleast one of the hooks. The problem is that the MSM won't realize it's stink-bait until it's too late. When will they(MSM) learn not to keep opening the door on their own noses?

Sort of like the Bushies' torrent of "Slime Cindy Sheehan" threads? :roll:

Sheehan threads are minuscule compared to the amount of shrill anti-Bush threads here.

BTW, the only thing sliming sheehan were her own words and actions.

just like the only thing used against bush are his own words and actions.


get it?

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: BBond
A woman was just on CNN telling her story of being taken on a nine hour bus ride from the Superdome to the Astrodome then being told she couldn't stay there.

AFTER SHE SURVIVED ONE OF THE WORST NATURAL DISASTERS IN U.S. HISTORY, IN A STRANGE CITY, WITH NO MONEY, NO FOOD, NO WATER, WITH NOTHING MORE THAN THE CLOTHES ON HER BACK, SHE WAS GIVEN A LIST OF SHELTERS TO CALL TO TRY TO FIND A PLACE TO STAY.

BRAVO PRESIDENT BUSH. WHEN THE STORM WAS OFF THE COAST AND EVERYONE KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE REALLY BAD YOU MAINTAINED YOUR COOL, STAYED ON VACATION, AND DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

MISERABLE FAILURE. THE WORST PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

Bush isn't coordinating the Superdome evacuation. It's the state governments of Texas and LA that are.

For once you're right, BUSH IS COORDINATING NOTHING, DOING NOTHING, HE'S SUPPLYING NOTHING BUT LIP SERVICE FOUR DAYS AFTER THE DISASTER.

Maybe you should yell at the right people then for botching the Superdome evacuation.

 

[conjur]

And the Propagandist's words last night, "no one predicted the levees would break".

BUSH*T!!!


That was the one big fear the whole weekend!

Plus, there's this:

Special Report: Washing Away
http://www.nola.com/hurricane/?/washingaway/

It's only a matter of time before South Louisiana takes a direct hit from a major hurricane. Billions have been spent to protect us, but we grow more vulnerable every day.

5-part series

 

[FuzzyBee]

Originally posted by: BBond
A woman was just on CNN telling her story of being taken on a nine hour bus ride from the Superdome to the Astrodome then being told she couldn't stay there.

AFTER SHE SURVIVED ONE OF THE WORST NATURAL DISASTERS IN U.S. HISTORY, IN A STRANGE CITY, WITH NO MONEY, NO FOOD, NO WATER, WITH NOTHING MORE THAN THE CLOTHES ON HER BACK, SHE WAS GIVEN A LIST OF SHELTERS TO CALL TO TRY TO FIND A PLACE TO STAY.

BRAVO PRESIDENT BUSH. WHEN THE STORM WAS OFF THE COAST AND EVERYONE KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE REALLY BAD YOU MAINTAINED YOUR COOL, STAYED ON VACATION, AND DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

MISERABLE FAILURE. THE WORST PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

The CapsLock key is usually the one immediately to the left of the "A" key, btw. Just an FYI.

Anyway, is appears that this lady was misinformed, as is reported here.

Earlier, Margaret O'Brien-Molina, a spokesperson for the American Red Cross, said that the dome would only accept those who had been in the Superdome and were traveling in the bus convoy. Throughout the day, other people who had arrived in Houston on their own, and were staying in different shelters or hotels, were turned away.

"The priority is with the people on the buses," O'Brien-Molina said.

But as they waited outside and word filtered that they wouldn't be allowed in, Houstonians came to their rescue. Someone brought water and provisions. A family stood outside with signs welcoming them.

Cheryl Graves arrived with the biggest gift. She opened her house to Nathan and her family ? offering to move in with her mother.

"This is about humanity," said Graves, as she loaded the children into her car. "I am looking out for my sisters and brothers. I know God blessed me to help other people."

Houston City Councilwoman Carol Galloway, dismissed the notion that the first bus was filled with renegades.

"If they are renegades and they are from New Orleans, we should help them," Galloway said. "I don't know how you determine who a renegade is if you are coming from a disaster area."

Galloway said the Houston is gearing up for dealing with the refugees for the long haul. She said plans are in place to get them jobs and the Houston Independent School District has already agreed to accept students into the system. Texas Southern University is admitting college students from Louisiana that have been displaced by the storm.

"The governor of Louisiana said they should not come back within a month," Galloway said. "So we have to make plans for them."

At about 11:30 p.m., as the police started to force the bus to move out, O'Brien-Molina arrived.

"Come on," she said. "Y'all come on in the dome."

Just wanted to make sure you weren't willfully spreading misinformation

 

[irwincur]

For once you're right, BUSH IS COORDINATING NOTHING, DOING NOTHING, HE'S SUPPLYING NOTHING BUT LIP SERVICE FOUR DAYS AFTER THE DISASTER.

Technically that is his job. This is a State issue and I am sure that the State's would rather not give all of their control over to the Federal government. This has been a hot topic for over two centuries now.

Point is, the president is not at fault for anything and in all reality has the option to do nothing. He is smartly sitting back, letting the States sort out the details before he jumps in. There is no point in dumping cash and resources into a problem that has yet to be defined. That simply leads to waste - but I would not expect leftists to understand planning or lack thereof and its relation to waste.

 

[BBond]

A MSNBC reporter on a Route 10 in New Orleans three miles from the center of the city said that she and her crew came upon a mass of people who've been on that highway for four days. They are waiting for help. None has come. They are almost out of food and water. They're just waiting for a ride somewhere, anywhere. If the news crew could get in where the hell is the help?

The reporter said it is totally clear that the manpower and resources are not there to handle this catastrophe.

I know where the manpower and resources are. They're in Iraq.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: irwincur

For once you're right, BUSH IS COORDINATING NOTHING, DOING NOTHING, HE'S SUPPLYING NOTHING BUT LIP SERVICE FOUR DAYS AFTER THE DISASTER.

Technically that is his job. This is a State issue and I am sure that the State's would rather not give all of their control over to the Federal government. This has been a hot topic for over two centuries now.

Point is, the president is not at fault for anything and in all reality has the option to do nothing. He is smartly sitting back, letting the States sort out the details before he jumps in. There is no point in dumping cash and resources into a problem that has yet to be defined. That simply leads to waste - but I would not expect leftists to understand planning or lack thereof and its relation to waste.

Are you actually saying that the President of the United States is sitting by during what is arguably the worst catastrophe in U.S. history -- and you're calling him "smart" for doing so?

If that's so, both you and he are a disgrace to humanity.

 

[GoPackGo]

Originally posted by: conjur
South Mississippi needs your help
http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/...ackages/hurricane_katrina/12526270.htm

The coastal communities of South Mississippi are desperately in need of an unprecedented relief effort.

We understand that New Orleans also was devastated by Hurricane Katrina, but surely this nation has the resources to rescue both that metropolitan and ours.

Whatever plans that were in place to deal with such a natural disaster have proven inadequate. Perhaps destruction on this scale could not have been adequately prepared for.

But now that it has taken place, no effort should be spared to mitigate the hurricane's impact.

The essentials -- ice, gasoline, medicine -- simply are not getting here fast enough.

We are not calling on the nation and the state to make life more comfortable in South Mississippi, we are calling on the nation and the state to make life here possible.

We would bolster our argument with the number of Katrina casualties confirmed thus far, but if there is such a confirmed number, no one is releasing it to the public. This lack of faith in the publics' ability to handle the truth is not sparing anyone's feelings, it is instead fueling terrifying rumors.

While the flow of information is frustratingly difficult, our reporters have yet to find evidence of a coordinated approach to relieve pain and hunger or to secure property and maintain order.

People are hurting and people are being vandalized.

Yet where is the National Guard, why hasn't every able-bodied member of the armed forces in South Mississippi been pressed into service?

On Wednesday reporters listening to horrific stories of death and survival at the Biloxi Junior High School shelter looked north across Irish Hill Road and saw Air Force personnel playing basketball and performing calisthenics.

Playing basketball and performing calisthenics!

When asked why these young men were not being used to help in the recovery effort, our reporters were told that it would be pointless to send military personnel down to the beach to pick up debris.

Litter is the least of our problems. We need the president to back up his declaration of a disaster with a declaration of every man and woman under his command will do whatever is necessary to deal with that disaster.

We need the governor to provide whatever assistance is at his command.

We certainly need our own county and city officials to come together and identify the most pressing needs of their constituents and then allocate resources to meet those needs. We appreciate the stress that theses elected and appointed officials have been under since the weekend but they must do a better job restoring public confidence in their ability to meet this challenge.

Conjur, the Packers have a game in memphis and they are loading emergency supplies on their team plane. They have arranged for a semi to take the supplies south where they are needed.

I guess right now there are like 50 people staying at Favres house in Mississippi because they have no where else to go.

 

[Bumrush99]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: irwincur

For once you're right, BUSH IS COORDINATING NOTHING, DOING NOTHING, HE'S SUPPLYING NOTHING BUT LIP SERVICE FOUR DAYS AFTER THE DISASTER.

Technically that is his job. This is a State issue and I am sure that the State's would rather not give all of their control over to the Federal government. This has been a hot topic for over two centuries now.

Point is, the president is not at fault for anything and in all reality has the option to do nothing. He is smartly sitting back, letting the States sort out the details before he jumps in. There is no point in dumping cash and resources into a problem that has yet to be defined. That simply leads to waste - but I would not expect leftists to understand planning or lack thereof and its relation to waste.

Are you actually saying that the President of the United States is sitting by during what is arguably the worst catastrophe in U.S. history -- and you're calling him "smart" for doing so?

If that's so, both you and he are a disgrace to humanity.

Compare that to the evil Clinton, who united the country after the Oklahoma city bombing and reassured the country that everything was going to be OK. Thank god for Giulliani in NYC after 9/11, otherwise Bush would have been exposed for what he truly is - A coward with no backbone when forced to deal with adversity and when forced to speak when the puppet masters aren't behind him telling him what to say. The sad thing is I supported Bush, I now realize my folly. The man is probably the first president in US history who suffers from stage fright, something that is unacceptable and discrageful when leading a superpower like the US>

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Conjur, the Packers have a game in memphis and they are loading emergency supplies on their team plane. They have arranged for a semi to take the supplies south where they are needed.

I guess right now there are like 50 people staying at Favres house in Mississippi because they have no where else to go.

:thumbsup:

Awesome!

Much better than the hoteliers in Tallahassee who are telling the refugees that they have to have to leave before fans come in for this weekend's FSU vs. Miami game.


Displaced by two hurricanes.


Beautiful.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Wow. All the little keyboard commanders are still hard at work, swinging wildly, spewing strawmen and red herrings left and right.

The blatant display of spiteful and petty partisanism by the usual small group of snarling dogs during such a tragedy is disgusting, absolutely disgusting.

 

[UpGrD]

Originally posted by: BMGSkulk
Awards...

This topic deserves awards for being the absolute, most ignorant, sac load of
spasming retard I have ever seen in a political forum. And I have seen thousands.

Not going to bother giving a rebuttal, as it will fall on stone deaf ears.

Just wanted to give credit where it was due.

Carry on.

Right on brother.....

You people are pathetic!!
So is the topic.

 

[zendari]

They figure out a way to criticize Bush no matter which action he takes.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

Originally posted by: irwincur

For once you're right, BUSH IS COORDINATING NOTHING, DOING NOTHING, HE'S SUPPLYING NOTHING BUT LIP SERVICE FOUR DAYS AFTER THE DISASTER.

Technically that is his job. This is a State issue and I am sure that the State's would rather not give all of their control over to the Federal government. This has been a hot topic for over two centuries now.

Point is, the president is not at fault for anything and in all reality has the option to do nothing. He is smartly sitting back, letting the States sort out the details before he jumps in. There is no point in dumping cash and resources into a problem that has yet to be defined. That simply leads to waste - but I would not expect leftists to understand planning or lack thereof and its relation to waste.

Wow your understanding of the crisis in NO simply astounds me. We simply don't have time to sit back and wait to figure out what the problem is. This is getting worse and worse with each passing day. The governement should have given all its resources to help evacuate as many people as humanly possible. There shouldn't even have to be any sort of thought or decision making process whatsoever in this case. The simple answer should be to send as much help as humanly possible.

The time for criticism will come later. I suspect there will be lots of blame thrown around when this is all done.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Wow. All the little keyboard commanders are still hard at work, swinging wildly, spewing strawmen and red herrings left and right.

The blatant display of spiteful and petty partisanism by the usual small group of snarling dogs during such a tragedy is disgusting, absolutely disgusting.

Look, bottom line is that India and other parts of the world get a faster response than right here at home.

That says it all right there.

 

[Bumrush99]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Wow. All the little keyboard commanders are still hard at work, swinging wildly, spewing strawmen and red herrings left and right.

The blatant display of spiteful and petty partisanism by the usual small group of snarling dogs during such a tragedy is disgusting, absolutely disgusting.

Listen, I'm a moderate and have oftentimes agreed with you on many issues concerning the war and supporting the president on foriegn policy issues. But his lack of response, his lack of foresight, his lack of urgency during the worst natural disaster in our history speaks volumes about his character and his lack of ability when it comes to uniting this country to help mobilize support.

This is a man that sold himself as a leader that would restore morality to the white house, a man that sold himself as a uniter, not a divider. His lack of action and laissez faire attitude in the face of extreme misery reveals the true nature of his character. It is becoming clear that the men behind Bush direct his actions. This admistration is secretive about everything, a government that is no longer for and by the people, but for special interest groups and far right interests. When push comes to shove Bush is nowhere to be seen, the true antithesis of great leaders like Ronald Reagan and Clinton.

 

[imported_Pedro69]

U.S. Won't Relocate Soldiers for Katrina

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates - There will be no large-scale shifting of U.S. troops from
Iraq and Afghanistan to help with disaster relief in Louisiana and Mississippi, a U.S. Central Command spokesman said Thursday.

Lt. Col. Trey Cate said top military officials are exploring ways to bring individual troops home to take care of families in need without altering the balance of forces in the war zones.

But top brass is unsure if homecoming service members can yet visit areas stricken by Hurricane Katrina due to flooding and evacuation orders.

"There are lots of different options of getting soldiers back there," said Cate, who is based in Qatar. "We're going to do our best to take care of the troops and their families."

Navy Cmdr. Jeff Breslau, a U.S. 5th Fleet spokesman in Bahrain, said no U.S. warships in the Gulf would be redirected to disaster relief in the Gulf of Mexico, but individual sailors with family emergencies could be granted home leave.

National Guard units called up for rescue work in Louisiana and Mississippi had to make do without members currently deployed in Iraq or Afghanistan.

National Guard troops from Alabama and Wisconsin, along with other law enforcers, were ordered to deal with the shortfall.

Most Americans identify the National Guard with providing emergency services during natural disasters. But over the past three years, numerous Guard units have been sent to Iraq to fight alongside regular forces.

A brigade of roughly 5,000 soldiers from the Louisiana National Guard watched the disaster unfold on television, as they finished their nearly yearlong deployment on Camp Liberty, west of Baghdad.

In their absence, Wisconsin Gov. Jim Doyle agreed to send 500 Wisconsin National Guard troops to Louisiana Wednesday to help out. The Wisconsin Guard itself is stretched, with 1,700 members serving in Iraq and Afghanistan and another 1,000 mobilizing for deployment overseas.

Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said she has asked the White House to send more rescue workers to free up the 4,000 National Guard troops already in New Orleans to stop looting and return law and order to the flooded city.

A brigade of Mississippi National Guard soldiers also remains in Iraq, attached to the II Marine Expeditionary Force.

More than 1,600 Mississippi National Guardsmen were activated to help with the recovery, and the neighboring Alabama Guard was planning to send two battalions to Mississippi to help cover the shortfall.

Well at least we now know where Bushs priorities are

 

[judasmachine]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: judasmachine
how much oil did he waste getting back to washington, or going on his "vacation" in the first place?

Not as much as Al Gore did going to the global warming convention.

Hehe, I bet. A lot of things they do are silly, and it shows that they don't really care, they're all richer than my wildest dream, and can afford almost anything. It just doesn't seem right that those who pull the strings are also those who are a tad bit petteir, and aloof than the rest of us.

 

[zendari]

The fvcking looters are firing shots at the rescue helicopters. :thumbsdown: Yeah, lets not worry about the looters at all and just let the run rampant without law and order. /sarcasm




National Guard troops in armored vehicles poured into New Orleans Thursday to curb the city's growing lawlessness after Hurricane Katrina.

About 10,000 National Guard troops from around the country were ordered to shore up security, rescue and relief operations along the hurricane-battered Gulf of Mexico coast.

Meanwhile, the evacuation of the Louisiana Superdome was suspended after shots were fired at a military helicopter assisting in rescue efforts. No immediate injuries were reported.

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin ordered virtually the entire police force to abandon search-and-rescue efforts and stop thieves who were becoming increasingly hostile. "They are starting to get closer to heavily populated areas -- hotels, hospitals, and we're going to stop it right now," Mr. Nagin said.

President Bush said Thursday the federal government has launched the most massive relief effort in history to help the victims of Hurricane Katrina, pledging to reach thousands of victims still needing to be rescued. "I fully understand people wanting things to have happened yesterday," Mr. Bush said in a live interview in the Roosevelt Room of the White House with ABC's "Good Morning America" program. "I understand the anxiety of people on the ground. ... So there is frustration. But I want people to know there's a lot of help coming."

With more than a thousand people feared dead, some refugees that had been staying in increasingly deteriorating conditions at the Superdome sports arena began arriving by bus at a new, more comfortable home at the Astrodome in Houston. Conditions at the Superdome had become horrendous: There was no air conditioning, the toilets were backed up, and the stench was so bad that medical workers wore masks as they walked around. The first of 500 busloads of people arrived early Thursday at the Astrodome...

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[MicroChrome]

Originally posted by: judasmachine
how much oil did he waste getting back to washington, or going on his "vacation" in the first place?

Damn, how much oil did he waste sitting on the couch in his 747 passing over the damaged areas. Couldn't he just vew a few photos and get on with it?

 

[AnyMal]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: irwincur

For once you're right, BUSH IS COORDINATING NOTHING, DOING NOTHING, HE'S SUPPLYING NOTHING BUT LIP SERVICE FOUR DAYS AFTER THE DISASTER.

Technically that is his job. This is a State issue and I am sure that the State's would rather not give all of their control over to the Federal government. This has been a hot topic for over two centuries now.

Point is, the president is not at fault for anything and in all reality has the option to do nothing. He is smartly sitting back, letting the States sort out the details before he jumps in. There is no point in dumping cash and resources into a problem that has yet to be defined. That simply leads to waste - but I would not expect leftists to understand planning or lack thereof and its relation to waste.

Are you actually saying that the President of the United States is sitting by during what is arguably the worst catastrophe in U.S. history -- and you're calling him "smart" for doing so?

If that's so, both you and he are a disgrace to humanity.

BBond - it seems as if you have plenty time on your hand. Why not drive over there and pick up those poor people off the highway and take them someplace safe. Til you're willing to act, you're part of the "disgrace to humanity" crowd. Congratulations.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: MicroChrome

Originally posted by: judasmachine
how much oil did he waste getting back to washington, or going on his "vacation" in the first place?

Damn, how much oil did he waste sitting on the couch in his 747 passing over the damaged areas. Couldn't he just vew a few photos and get on with it?

LA state governor Blanco did the exact same flyby in a helicopter.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: zendari
LA state governor Blanco did the exact same flyby in a helicopter.

She needed to assess the hardest hit areas. One can see a helluva lot better in a helicopter than AF 1 at 10,000'.

Blanco's been working with TX Gov. Perry to arrange for locations for refugees, she's been in contact with the Federal gov't to obtain more troops and assistance, she's been giving press conferences when she can to give updates and plead for more assistance.

She's doing her job.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: zendari
LA state governor Blanco did the exact same flyby in a helicopter.

She needed to assess the hardest hit areas. One can see a helluva lot better in a helicopter than AF 1 at 10,000'.

Blanco's been working with TX Gov. Perry to arrange for locations for refugees, she's been in contact with the Federal gov't to obtain more troops and assistance, she's been giving press conferences when she can to give updates and plead for more assistance.

She's doing her job.

Clearly not doing much of a job arranging locations for refugees if people drive 9 hours to the Astrodome and get turned away. And she did a tremendous job planning for disaster. :thumbsup:

 

[Commish]

Originally posted by: zendari
They figure out a way to criticize Bush no matter which action he takes.

Some of these left wing freaks need to get a grip before you pop a bolt. Holy crap, you're bitc4ing like a bunch of old ladies.