Bush's "Vacations"

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: loki8481
while I do wish he'd stop wasting my tax dollors going around the country trying to promote his legislative agenda, the fact is, the president is never really on vacation, even when not in the white house itself.

I remember Clinton doing Democratic fund raisers on the way from Monica to the john!

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: bjc112

Originally posted by: umbrella39

Originally posted by: bjc112

Originally posted by: loki8481
the fact is, the president is never really on vacation, even when not in the white house itself.

THANK YOU!!

That is right on..

No, it's not. Thank YOU. These trips are footed by you and I. If you are OK with it, please lobby your congressman to increase your taxes so you can continue to foot the bill.

Get over it dude, we pay for everything when ANY president travels, ANYWHERE.


Just contacted McCain and told him to raise my taxes as well.

And you libs get to pay Barney to travel too! The load must be overwhelming!

 

[BBond]

Bush's "Vacations"
Topic Summary: About to set a record... does it matter?

Bush is fond of telling us we're at war anytime he needs an excuse for his inexcusable actions as president. So why does Bush get to vacation while we're at war? Shouldn't he be making some sort of sacrifice too? I mean, giving up a vacation to try to straighten out the disaster he created in Iraq doesn't seem too much to ask. Especially when the U.S. military just blew past another milestone in Iraq, 1,821 U.S. troops have died in Iraq due to Bush's LIES.

 

[heartsurgeon]

Bush is stupid.
Bush is lazy.
Bush is immoral.

that's the executive summary of this thread and 99% of all the other threads posted on P&N.

so much bitterness...

 

[Tommunist]

Originally posted by: zendari
It didn't bother the left when Kerry literally took a year off from voting in the Senate.

vacation != spending time trying to get elected president

you may be the flamebait master on these forums though - keep up the good work :thumbsup:

 

[Tommunist]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
Bush is stupid.
Bush is lazy.
Bush is immoral.

that's the executive summary of this thread and 99% of all the other threads posted on P&N.

so much bitterness...

you are correct - but people will still deny that the country is not highly divided....

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: Tommunist

Originally posted by: zendari
It didn't bother the left when Kerry literally took a year off from voting in the Senate.

vacation != spending time trying to get elected president

you may be the flamebait master on these forums though - keep up the good work :thumbsup:

Is spending time trying to get elected president part of the Senate job description? If he doesn't want to be a Senator why doesn't he quit the job?

Now, who were the top 5 private trip takers in Congress? Text

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Tommunist

Originally posted by: zendari
It didn't bother the left when Kerry literally took a year off from voting in the Senate.

vacation != spending time trying to get elected president

you may be the flamebait master on these forums though - keep up the good work :thumbsup:

Is spending time trying to get elected president part of the Senate job description? If he doesn't want to be a Senator why doesn't he quit the job?

Now, who were the top 5 private trip takers in Congress? Text

thought this was about bush?

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: Orsorum
Oh, please. I can work from home, too, if I choose. That doesn't mean that I can meet with clients or my colleagues and be as effective, or as devoted, as I could if I were in the office. The fact is that time spent in your office is usually more productive than spent at home, and just saying "well, he can work from home in this age of technology" doesn't make that fact go away.

If Clinton had taken this many vacations the Bush apologists would be all over him raising a stink about his lack of commitment to America and to his job. Now they're just all over Bush like, well, Monica was with Clinton. Except they won't raise a stink about the stains on their clothing.

Unlike the President, you don't have dozens of people ensuring you can do your job from anywhere in the world.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: Czar
thought this was about bush?

Turned into a mudslinging leftist circlejerk a few posts in.

 

[Tommunist]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Tommunist

Originally posted by: zendari
It didn't bother the left when Kerry literally took a year off from voting in the Senate.

vacation != spending time trying to get elected president

you may be the flamebait master on these forums though - keep up the good work :thumbsup:

Is spending time trying to get elected president part of the Senate job description? If he doesn't want to be a Senator why doesn't he quit the job?

Now, who were the top 5 private trip takers in Congress? Text

it's still not a vacation. at least in kerry's case he was doing something that would lead to more service to the public. this shouldn't even be an issue though b/c we are talking about presidents. go ahead and bring up clinton or something if you have to bring up a democrat. at least that's a more level comparison.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
Bush is stupid.
Bush is lazy.
Bush is immoral.

that's the executive summary of this thread and 99% of all the other threads posted on P&N.

so much bitterness...

Uh oh, I feel a "I'm leaving this place rant" coming on again...

:roll:

 

[Genx87]

This lame topic comes up with every president.

 

[Tommunist]

Originally posted by: Genx87
This lame topic comes up with every president.

agreed it's fairly lame

 

[Corn]

LOL, this topic is solid gold!

Check out these stats:

Since Bush was elected President I have been on "vacation" (not present at my office) a total of 735 days, more than double the number that Bush has taken!

104 weekend days/year
26 PTO days/year
8 holidays/year

One other important point: These were actual vacation days I took, days where I completed no work related tasks at all. Not figured into that number were days I spent travelling for work, time out of the office for various conferences/meeting/training/audits, etc....which would more than triple the "vacation" time I spent away from my office.

My immediate superior is "absent" from her office more than 90%, usually managing via laptop and cellphone. Granted, her responsibilities pale in comparison to Bush's. She's only responsible for several hundred employees and several billion dollars/month in commerce. But she also doesn't travel with a full staff on AF1 and doesn't have a red phone connected directly to Moscow!

I now return son of democratic underground back to the rabid Bush hating lefties.

PS, someone bring me up to speed: What exactly happened to Cad, Crimson, and Rip?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Genx87
This lame topic comes up with every president.

Actually it doesn't, since not every president shatters the record for taking the most vacation time.

Among recent Presidents, Reagan also broke the record (though President Bush is on a clip to take nearly twice Reagan's amount of vacation), GHWB had a respectable attendance record, and both Carter and Clinton were notorious workaholics (though Carter was probably working on the wrong things, including issues as picayune as the schedule for the White House bowling alley). I believe Nixon also worked a lot, and have no idea about Ford, whose main tasks seemed to be pardoning Nixon and not getting us into WWIII.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Corn
LOL, this topic is solid gold!

Check out these stats:

Since Bush was elected President I have been on "vacation" (not present at my office) a total of 735 days, more than double the number that Bush has taken!

You're using the wrong numbers. Bush's present tally of 319 days only counts his time at the ranch - he has spent more than that number of days at Kennebunkport and Camp David, bringing his total over 700 days.

I don't think this subject is that big a deal - as far as I'm concerned the less work President Bush does, the better - but you'll have a hard time convincing me he's the archetypal Type-A president when he's spent the lion's share of his adult life drinking and bankrupting businesses.

 

[NeoV]

while I agree that the President can function fully outside of the white house, the fact that he's on pace to take twice as much time outside of the white house as any president ever has should at least raise a few legit questions, yes?

 

[ExpertNovice]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: zendari
It didn't bother the left when Kerry literally took a year off from voting in the Senate.

thanks for that. really helpful. :roll:

It doesn't bother me. It has never bothered me regardless of who was in office.

It does bother me when they just quit doing anything. Loki pointed that out. So, yes, it was helpful.

Since your :roll indicates that you supported Senator Kerry and his not doing his job then and assuming you are not a hypocrite you would support any politician if they simply walked off the job for a year. On this issue you and I will have to agree to disagree.

 

[outriding]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I think he should take more vacations!

Isn't his Ranch in Texas the "Western White House"? All Presidents secondary residences are set up so they can do their jobs when away from D.C.

I remember the first summer he was president and a reporter asked Bush while he was at his ranch playing golf what if there was a problem in the middle east right now. Bush's answer was well the military will take care of it.

Bush is away from the white house he views that as his personal time and does not worry about anything.

Really if that was his take on things why did he run in the first place. The role president is not a 9-5 job.

I cannot believe people here are defending his lack of passion for the job.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: ExpertNovice

Since your :roll indicates that you supported Senator Kerry and his not doing his job then and assuming you are not a hypocrite you would support any politician if they simply walked off the job for a year. On this issue you and I will have to agree to disagree.

I continue to be amazed that Senator Kerry's "attendance problem" ever had any traction with the voting public, and it's a testament to the temerity of Karl Rove and the ignorance of voters.

EVERY elected official who runs for office from another political job (including President Bush, who was only halfway into his second term as Governor of Texas when he ran for President, among many others) has to sacrifice his present duties to some degree, in favor of pursuing higher office.

For that matter, what about running for re-election? Wouldn't you agree that President Bush, in 2004, must have been distracted from his duties as President by his campaigning? Should he, by your logic, have resigned from his job as President in order to run for a second term? As crazy as that suggestion sounds, it is exactly as crazy as people objecting to Senator Kerry's taking time during his tenure as a senator in order to campaign for President.

This "issue" has existed for as long as there have been elections - the only reason it arose in the 2004 campaign is that few campaign managers have historically been as shameless as Karl Rove.

 

[Tommunist]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: ExpertNovice

Since your :roll indicates that you supported Senator Kerry and his not doing his job then and assuming you are not a hypocrite you would support any politician if they simply walked off the job for a year. On this issue you and I will have to agree to disagree.

I continue to be amazed that Senator Kerry's "attendance problem" ever had any traction with the voting public, and it's a testament to the temerity of Karl Rove and the ignorance of voters.

EVERY elected official who runs for office from another political job (including President Bush, who was only halfway into his second term as Governor of Texas when he ran for President, among many others) has to sacrifice his present duties to some degree, in favor of pursuing higher office.

For that matter, what about running for re-election? Wouldn't you agree that President Bush, in 2004, must have been distracted from his duties as President by his campaigning? Should he, by your logic, have resigned from his job as President in order to run for a second term? As crazy as that suggestion sounds, it is exactly as crazy as people objecting to Senator Kerry's taking time during his tenure as a senator in order to campaign for President.

This "issue" has existed for as long as there have been elections - the only reason it arose in the 2004 campaign is that few campaign managers have historically been as shameless as Karl Rove.

no no - kerry should have dropped out of politics first b/c that would have given him a really good chance of becoming president

 

[HomerJS]

I don't think he works very hard. Any President who is in the shape he is reported to be can't be working. Also remember when the Capital was evacuated and he was jogging? They didn't even take the time to tell him. How much could he be really be doing?

 

[redhatlinux]

Zendari,
I would add one more point regarding John Kerry:

He was on vacation for just about his entire time in the Senate. In 20plus years he is just about the lowest producer of ANYTHING.
Apart from marrying a fine Republican woman, turning her political views around, his total claim to fame is that phoney Vietnam war record that he tried to sell to the American public. TG the majority would not buy that steaming sack of sh!t. You would think that, being an absolute idol of the Kennedy family that at the very least he could do is, molest, rape, kill, de-flower etc, just to keep the press interested in his sorry A$$.

 

[homercles337]

Originally posted by: Tommunist

Originally posted by: Genx87
This lame topic comes up with every president.

agreed it's fairly lame

Except that Dumbya is setting a new precident for vacation time. He's most definately not MY president. Shoot, Clinton took less than a week of vacation yet its OK for dumbya to take 250 days as of August 2003?! 250!? I mean, COME ON.