Bush's "Vacations"

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: redhatlinux
Zendari,
I would add one more point regarding John Kerry:

He was on vacation for just about his entire time in the Senate. In 20plus years he is just about the lowest producer of ANYTHING.
Apart from marrying a fine Republican woman, turning her political views around, his total claim to fame is that phoney Vietnam war record that he tried to sell to the American public. TG the majority would not buy that steaming sack of sh!t. You would think that, being an absolute idol of the Kennedy family that at the very least he could do is, molest, rape, kill, de-flower etc, just to keep the press interested in his sorry A$$.

What kind of would you like in return for your vicious, irrelevant troll?

 

[Tommunist]

Originally posted by: homercles337

Originally posted by: Tommunist

Originally posted by: Genx87
This lame topic comes up with every president.

agreed it's fairly lame

Except that Dumbya is setting a new precident for vacation time. He's most definately not MY president. Shoot, Clinton took less than a week of vacation yet its OK for dumbya to take 250 days as of August 2003?! 250!? I mean, COME ON.

put that way it does seem pretty extreme. but as others pointed out the less time he spends doin things the better off we'll be in the end.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: redhatlinux
Zendari,
I would add one more point regarding John Kerry:

He was on vacation for just about his entire time in the Senate. In 20plus years he is just about the lowest producer of ANYTHING.
Apart from marrying a fine Republican woman, turning her political views around, his total claim to fame is that phoney Vietnam war record that he tried to sell to the American public. TG the majority would not buy that steaming sack of sh!t. You would think that, being an absolute idol of the Kennedy family that at the very least he could do is, molest, rape, kill, de-flower etc, just to keep the press interested in his sorry A$$.

5 bills in 20 years. Do Senators get paid overtime?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: zendari

5 bills in 20 years. Do Senators get paid overtime?

This is a completely false figure, as you probably know.

I find it interesting that you are so bothered by the subject of President Bush's vast amounts of vacation time that you keep raising a failed Presidential candidate to deflect attention away from the topic at hand.

Also, you've never addressed my comments above, so I'll reiterate:

I continue to be amazed that Senator Kerry's "attendance problem" ever had any traction with the voting public, and it's a testament to the temerity of Karl Rove and the ignorance of voters.

EVERY elected official who runs for office from another political job (including President Bush, who was only halfway into his second term as Governor of Texas when he ran for President, among many others) has to sacrifice his present duties to some degree, in favor of pursuing higher office.

For that matter, what about running for re-election? Wouldn't you agree that President Bush, in 2004, must have been distracted from his duties as President by his campaigning? Should he, by your logic, have resigned from his job as President in order to run for a second term? As crazy as that suggestion sounds, it is exactly as crazy as people objecting to Senator Kerry's taking time during his tenure as a senator in order to campaign for President.

This "issue" has existed for as long as there have been elections - the only reason it arose in the 2004 campaign is that few campaign managers have historically been as shameless as Karl Rove.

Your thoughts?

 

[miketheidiot]

what a worthless thread.


thanks again for crapping another one, zendari.


Not that there was a whole lot of potential here anyways.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: DonVito
Also, you've never addressed my comments above, so I'll reiterate:

Your thoughts?

Even according to lefties, Bush did his job in 2004. Timeline.. But one would also think that travelling the country and speaking to varied groups of people could be considered part of a President's job?

By contrast, do you think this many not voting. If he had managed to show up once in a while it would be a non-issue, but it certainly shows he doesn't take his job seriously.

I guess the ultimate laughingstock is Lieberman who in 2000 must have figured he was going to lose the v. presidency and ran for senate at the same time!

Btw, I'm 6'1", turn 19 in a couple days, was a junior in HS 3 years ago (that would be 2002), and did vote in '04, to clear up a few misconceptions. Are you tall enough to post?

If you or anyone would like to know about my personal life you can pm me and I will gladly answer.

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: zendari
Btw, I'm 6'1", turn 19 in a couple days, and did vote in '04, to clear up a few misconceptions. Are you tall enough to post?

What are your likes/dislikes? What's your sign?

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
Bush is stupid.
Bush is lazy.
Bush is immoral.

that's the executive summary of this thread and 99% of all the other threads posted on P&N.

so much bitterness...

You have to admit, the suffering is lovely to watch.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: DonVito
Also, you've never addressed my comments above, so I'll reiterate:

Your thoughts?

Even according to lefties, Bush did his job in 2004. Timeline.. But one would also think that travelling the country and speaking to varied groups of people could be considered part of a President's job?

By contrast, do you think this many not voting. If he had managed to show up once in a while it would be a non-issue, but it certainly shows he doesn't take his job seriously.

I guess the ultimate laughingstock is Lieberman who in 2000 must have figured he was going to lose the v. presidency and ran for senate at the same time!

Btw, I'm 6'1", turn 19 in a couple days, was a junior in HS 3 years ago (that would be 2002), and did vote in '04, to clear up a few misconceptions. Are you tall enough to post?

If you or anyone would like to know about my personal life you can pm me and I will gladly answer.

It's clear that the voting age should be raised to 21 to match the drinking age.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
Bush is stupid.
Bush is lazy.
Bush is immoral.

that's the executive summary of this thread and 99% of all the other threads posted on P&N.

so much bitterness...

If you loved your Country, you'd be bitter too watching it destroyed by him and his followers.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: DonVito
Also, you've never addressed my comments above, so I'll reiterate:

Your thoughts?

Even according to lefties, Bush did his job in 2004. Timeline.. But one would also think that travelling the country and speaking to varied groups of people could be considered part of a President's job?

By contrast, do you think this many not voting. If he had managed to show up once in a while it would be a non-issue, but it certainly shows he doesn't take his job seriously.

I guess the ultimate laughingstock is Lieberman who in 2000 must have figured he was going to lose the v. presidency and ran for senate at the same time!

Btw, I'm 6'1", turn 19 in a couple days, was a junior in HS 3 years ago (that would be 2002), and did vote in '04, to clear up a few misconceptions. Are you tall enough to post?

If you or anyone would like to know about my personal life you can pm me and I will gladly answer.

It's clear that the voting age should be raised to 21 to match the drinking age.

Fine by me. It's 18-21 year olds in the Dems pockets anyway. Text

 

[arsbanned]

Ehhh, he's on permanent vacation in or out of the WH anyway. Who cares.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: Genx87
This lame topic comes up with every president.

Actually it doesn't, since not every president shatters the record for taking the most vacation time.

Among recent Presidents, Reagan also broke the record (though President Bush is on a clip to take nearly twice Reagan's amount of vacation), GHWB had a respectable attendance record, and both Carter and Clinton were notorious workaholics (though Carter was probably working on the wrong things, including issues as picayune as the schedule for the White House bowling alley). I believe Nixon also worked a lot, and have no idea about Ford, whose main tasks seemed to be pardoning Nixon and not getting us into WWIII.

It is a lame topic. Presidents work even when on vacation. Clinton was a notorious slacker. Late for meetings ect. Bush is a notorious down to business on time kind of guy.
Everything is punctual.

I remember these same lame arguments being hurled at Clinton during his years.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: DonVito
Also, you've never addressed my comments above, so I'll reiterate:

Your thoughts?

Even according to lefties, Bush did his job in 2004. Timeline.. But one would also think that travelling the country and speaking to varied groups of people could be considered part of a President's job?

By contrast, do you think this many not voting. If he had managed to show up once in a while it would be a non-issue, but it certainly shows he doesn't take his job seriously.

I guess the ultimate laughingstock is Lieberman who in 2000 must have figured he was going to lose the v. presidency and ran for senate at the same time!

Btw, I'm 6'1", turn 19 in a couple days, was a junior in HS 3 years ago (that would be 2002), and did vote in '04, to clear up a few misconceptions. Are you tall enough to post?

If you or anyone would like to know about my personal life you can pm me and I will gladly answer.

It's clear that the voting age should be raised to 21 to match the drinking age.

Some people dont require the excuse of being drunk to justify who they vote for.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Genx87

It is a lame topic. Presidents work even when on vacation. Clinton was a notorious slacker. Late for meetings ect. Bush is a notorious down to business on time kind of guy.
Everything is punctual.

I remember these same lame arguments being hurled at Clinton during his years.

That's simply untrue. Clinton took, if memory serves, the LEAST vacation of any US president, and was notorious for working until midnight and starting before 7, and making similar demands of his staff. President Bush, OTOH, is known for leaving by 6, and chasing his staff out at the same time.

 

[brikis98]

Ok, clearly the US president has an extremely stressful job. And, even when he is on vacation, he doesn't stop working completely like the rest of us.

However, having said that, how can people sit here and not mind in the least that Bush is setting a record - as compared to OTHER PRESIDENTS (not senators or anyone else) - in vacation time? He gets paid $400,000/year of taxpayer money to do his job, and although its an incredibly tough job, didn't all the other presidents have it just as tough? What makes Bush special that he can just disappear to his ranch for more time than anyone else? Doesn't he have the same responsiblity to the American people to do his job?

And PLEASE don't defend Bush - in this argument or others - by calling everyone who criticizes him a republican basher, liberal, or Bush hater or whatever. I assure you if Clinton or anyone else pulled the same stunt, I'd be just as upset by it and question it the same way.