destrekor
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Insulting me doesn't change the fact that:
"when the search for truth is confused with political advocacy, the pursuit of knowledge is reduced to the quest for power."
In my original post, I linked to a 1798 "World is going to end" theory.
A more recent "theoretical crisis" analogous to "Global Warming" was noted by Michael Crichton. Specifically, he wrote:
"This theory quickly draws support from leading scientists, politicians and celebrities around the world. Research is funded by distinguished philanthropies, and carried out at prestigious universities. The crisis is reported frequently in the media. The science is taught in college and high school classrooms."
... supporters included Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, and Winston Churchill. It was approved by Supreme Court justices Oliver Wendell Holmes and Louis Brandeis... Research was backed by the Carnegie and Rockefeller Foundations. ... important work was also done at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford and Johns Hopkins. ...
These efforts had the support of the National Academy of Sciences, the American Medical Association, and the National Research Council...
Those who opposed the theory were shouted down and called reactionary, blind to reality, or just plain ignorant. But in hindsight, what is surprising is that so few people objected.
Today, we know that this famous theory that gained so much support was actually pseudoscience."
From: Why Politicized Science is Dangerous
Mixing science with politics is a bad combination. It was bad when Malthus did it in 1798. It was bad when eugenics was introduced in the early 1900s. And its bad with Al Gore and Global Warming now.
Calling me, or other people that think differently than you, ignorant, doesn't change that.
Uno
Eugenics was hardly pseudoscience, except the politicized aspects.
Aspects of it are actually pretty damned real, but... Hitler kind of put a bad taste in everyone's mouth.
As a species, we must either commit to shades of eugenics or genetic manipulation/therapy. Not saying it's pretty or a discussion that's fit for a dinner party... certain facts of life are rather appalling.
As for Michael Crichton - lol. He was an intelligent man, and had quite a bit of scientific schooling. But he never had a lick of advanced schooling in Climatology or related atmospheric sciences.
He was well versed and stayed current as best as possible, and some of his arguments are definitely important.
But come on - I read State of Fear too (twice, actually). The bias and agenda in that book is ridiculous and laughable.
And actually, all the while arguing against "global warming", he certainly showcased the actual trends of global climate change. Fact is, some areas most certainly will get colder. There's no way to slice it - even if the a average temp of the world rises, some regions must grow colder as climate patterns shift.
Politicized science - yes, it's a dangerous animal and an affront to science itself. Some things are rather difficult to change, however, because science has always been debated at the national leadership level. It's either political leaders or religious leaders - one side of the coin is always aghast at what science brings up at some point. When you produce results that serve to go against "the current way of things", people get angry.