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Muse

Lifer
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When I went through this I had a job I detested and would spend my lunch breaks walking around downtown and went into stores that specialized in suits and such. Eventually I decided and had them tailored to me (two very nice suits). I also bought the other stuff, shirts, belts, shoes, socks, ties, even a fancy pen!

Didn't help me get a job, though... doh! However, I did ditch that other job, which was officially "temporary."
 
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Mm, not really. I couldn't afford in person prices for what I'd want. It's alright. I could get a better fit by having them remake it but only so much so. The pants are too wide in the waist by about an inch and a half. Which is quite significant but can be tailored a bit and then I can hope to 'grow' into it. The rest of the ensemble is also a bit too wide in the waist because of that but otherwise decent. This comes down to probably how they took my waist measurements. The measurement I was giving them felt large. Now I know.

On top of that, armholes could be higher. Shoulder width of the coat is slightly long. Arm freedom is severely restricted while in the coat and shirt and, really, only a $2000+ bespoke suit is going to fix that. In what I mean by that is this: http://masculine-style.com/jacket-armholes/ You can see how the guy in black and white has a perfect looking suit while the dude below is probably the worst possible example of what I'm experiencing. Mine isn't really that drastic but it does exist. There's a lot of contributing factors as to what will cause that kind of action but, really, again, bespoke is likely the only way to fix that. It's an annoyance if you plan to dance or do athletic movements with the jacket on.

That said, suit is okay. I think the second one I buy will be much better.
And this is why you don't buy suits on the internet.

None of that sounds alright. A 400 dollar suit from a suit store would have zero of those problems. What an epic failure.
Indeed. The OP spends a lot of money on an internet suit and it's described as fitting poorly and only "okay".

srs. I just bought a Calvin Klein suit "on sale" at Macy's during black Friday for $280 and it fits me like a glove. Might need minor tweaks here or there, but I don't have any of these huge issues.
I did something similar - went to a MW during one of their many sales 2 years ago - $500 got me 2 Calvin Klein suits, with some tailoring for the pants, a few pairs of matching socks, and a $50 gift card for spending $500, which I then used to buy 2 shirts later. And they definitely don't fit poorly or are only "okay".
 
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brianmanahan

Lifer
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I did something similar - went to a MW during one of their many sales 2 years ago - $500 got me 2 Calvin Klein suits, with some tailoring for the pants, a few pairs of matching socks, and a $50 gift card for spending $500, which I then used to buy 2 shirts later. And they definitely don't fit poorly or are only "okay".

pfft, sales are for schmucks! real men pay full MSRP plus tax
 

Homerboy

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don't buy a regular old run-of-the-mill suit, you'll send the wrong message

buy a full-blown tux and blow everyone's mind



take your sweeper and trashcan with you too to make a lasting impression


O_M_G
I'm dying over here.


That being said, buying a suit online is about the dumbest idea I have ever heard of. You NEED to have suit tailored to look right. Can't do that online.

And for those of you saying pleats are OK... you're wrong. And have been for the past 20 years. Pleats are long dead -- even in casual business attire. Has nothing to do with being metro either
 

Capt Caveman

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Mm, not really. I couldn't afford in person prices for what I'd want. It's alright. I could get a better fit by having them remake it but only so much so. The pants are too wide in the waist by about an inch and a half. Which is quite significant but can be tailored a bit and then I can hope to 'grow' into it. The rest of the ensemble is also a bit too wide in the waist because of that but otherwise decent. This comes down to probably how they took my waist measurements. The measurement I was giving them felt large. Now I know.

On top of that, armholes could be higher. Shoulder width of the coat is slightly long. Arm freedom is severely restricted while in the coat and shirt and, really, only a $2000+ bespoke suit is going to fix that. In what I mean by that is this: http://masculine-style.com/jacket-armholes/ You can see how the guy in black and white has a perfect looking suit while the dude below is probably the worst possible example of what I'm experiencing. Mine isn't really that drastic but it does exist. There's a lot of contributing factors as to what will cause that kind of action but, really, again, bespoke is likely the only way to fix that. It's an annoyance if you plan to dance or do athletic movements with the jacket on.

That said, suit is okay. I think the second one I buy will be much better.

Incorrect, just like pretty much every other decision you make. Only an idiot would think you need to spend $2k to get a perfectly fitting suit. Just read the article you linked and you can get a better fitting suit that you just bought at J.Crew

fwiw - this guy ran a half-marathon in a suit - http://www.runnersworld.com/general...y-ceo-is-well-suited-for-half-marathon-record
 

emperus

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A lot of this advice in this thread is iffy. I have a lot of friends and family that get suits made overseas and have them shipped. Once you find a good tailor, get your initial measurements and fit squared away it's as easy as picking a new pattern. It's much cheaper than buying a MTM suit in the US and better quality than those Macys/MW suits.

I can't speak for Indochino but they do have some local shops. I know they have one in Copley in Boston.

But, again what you buy depends on what you want/need. Just know what you are buying and how much you're paying. A $100 suit from JC penny is probably going to be polyester. While a $750 Hugo Boss suit from Bloomingdale probably isn't worth it since it's fused (made that mistake when I was younger). I know Mens Wearhouse had a b1g1 free sale on Clearance suits a couple months back. A friend picked up 2 Calvin Klein and 2 Michael Kors suits for about $180. I should have probably bought one at that price but wouldn't buy them at even sale prices.
 
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TridenT

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You guys really don't know anything about suit fit. You're not going to get a OTR suit for $300 w/ $100 alterations to fit anything close to a bespoke suit. Just isn't going to happen. You need multiple fittings to get it perfect.

Buying a suit online isn't really the problem. It's that you need multiple fittings. Even going to a tailor I'm not going to get it right the first time. THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE MULTIPLE FITTINGS W/ BESPOKE SUITS
 
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You guys really don't know anything about suit fit. You're not going to get a OTR suit for $300 w/ $100 alterations to fit anything close to a bespoke suit. Just isn't going to happen. You need multiple fittings to get it perfect.

Buying a suit online isn't really the problem. It's that you need multiple fittings. Even going to a tailor I'm not going to get it right the first time. THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE MULTIPLE FITTINGS W/ BESPOKE SUITS
Yes. We're all idiots and you're right.
 

AznAnarchy99

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My local Off Saks 5th had buy one get one Versace suits at $900 on Black Friday. They retail for $1500 normally so $450 a pop is great.
 
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cbrunny

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You guys really don't know anything about suit fit. You're not going to get a OTR suit for $300 w/ $100 alterations to fit anything close to a bespoke suit. Just isn't going to happen. You need multiple fittings to get it perfect.

Buying a suit online isn't really the problem. It's that you need multiple fittings. Even going to a tailor I'm not going to get it right the first time. THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE MULTIPLE FITTINGS W/ BESPOKE SUITS

That's even less of a reason to buy it online! Goddamn.

My closet full of suits would argue otherwise, champ. Buying a suit online is some seriously millennial bullshit.
 

TridenT

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That's even less of a reason to buy it online! Goddamn.

My closet full of suits would argue otherwise, champ. Buying a suit online is some seriously millennial bullshit.

No, buying online is much better than trying to get something off the rack if you don't have an OTR body type. Even then, the armholes and so forth from OTR suits will be so large as to accommodate as many body shapes as possible that it will fit poorly.

Bunch of idiots here. I'm going to talk to a few people in person about the suit and get some more feedback. I'll end up shipping it back to have it remade.

On top of that, I DO NOT want to go an alteration chain. I don't want my suit or shirts to look altered! It's very obvious for most jobs and looks like shit. Won't really fix it anyway and it won't look sharp. It'll look like a hackjob, which most alterations are and alteration chains are full of.

Tired of the igits in this forum who think they fucking know anything.
 

Matthiasa

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The biggest issues seems to be that you gave them incorrect measurements... Even with a decent suit arm movement is going to be limited to some extent but the rest comes back to the measurements. Almost all suits get altered and unless it was done horribly the quality looks no worse and it fits better. Noting that it is easier to make something smaller than to enlarge it, which is why it was likely a bit to large to begin with.
 
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Ns1

No Lifer
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You guys really don't know anything about suit fit. You're not going to get a OTR suit for $300 w/ $100 alterations to fit anything close to a bespoke suit. Just isn't going to happen. You need multiple fittings to get it perfect.

Buying a suit online isn't really the problem. It's that you need multiple fittings. Even going to a tailor I'm not going to get it right the first time. THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE MULTIPLE FITTINGS W/ BESPOKE SUITS

Tired of the igits in this forum who think they fucking know anything.


says the guy who just bought a "custom" $400 suit online with a waist 1.5" too big
 

cbrunny

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No, buying online is much better than trying to get something off the rack if you don't have an OTR body type. Even then, the armholes and so forth from OTR suits will be so large as to accommodate as many body shapes as possible that it will fit poorly.

Bunch of idiots here. I'm going to talk to a few people in person about the suit and get some more feedback. I'll end up shipping it back to have it remade.

On top of that, I DO NOT want to go an alteration chain. I don't want my suit or shirts to look altered! It's very obvious for most jobs and looks like shit. Won't really fix it anyway and it won't look sharp. It'll look like a hackjob, which most alterations are and alteration chains are full of.

Tired of the igits in this forum who think they fucking know anything.

lol. ok. Assuming you're correct (spoiler: you're unbelievably wrong) why not buy a bespoke from a suit store/actual tailor then? Guaranteed to be better than online.

OTR suits only fit poorly if you buy an OTR suit that fits poorly. The great thing about suit stores is they sell more than one suit, AND if it doesn't fit you don't have to buy it. But you actually get to put it on and know for sure before you spend weeks shipping shit back and forth to a digi-tailor who thinks they can custom make a suit for someone they've never laid eyes on before who measures themselves (incorrectly).

The only upside to buying a suit online that I can think of is that you can buy it in your underwear. All other reasons to buy a suit online are completely insane.
 
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TridenT

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lol. ok. Assuming you're correct (spoiler: you're unbelievably wrong) why not buy a bespoke from a suit store/actual tailor then? Guaranteed to be better than online.

OTR suits only fit poorly if you buy an OTR suit that fits poorly. The great thing about suit stores is they sell more than one suit, AND if it doesn't fit you don't have to buy it. But you actually get to put it on and know for sure before you spend weeks shipping shit back and forth to a digi-tailor who thinks they can custom make a suit for someone they've never laid eyes on before who measures themselves (incorrectly).

If you have an unusual body, you're not going to find ANY suits off ANY rack that fit you. I'm one of those people. Even with alterations, you can only go so far.

Bespoke is $2000+ per suit and out of my budget for this suit. I wanted a good fit, I knew I couldn't get bespoke level fit or quality.

I'll be sending the suit back.
 
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