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Lifer
Feb 13, 2003
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Tired of the igits in this forum who think they fucking know anything.
You gotta be fucking kidding me. Your threads, EVERY goddamn one of them, is full of you acting like you know-it-all (which you obviously don't, it's fucking hilarious).

Ain't much you can do with Trident besides shake your head.
 

SSSnail

Lifer
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What are your measurements that are so unusual?

My guess is not enough meat on them bones, or fruteloopz, yo.

But yeah, I really enjoy t-boy's threads, I feel guilty reading them because they provide SO MUCH entertainment value, and all for free.
 

madoka

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But yeah, I really enjoy t-boy's threads, I feel guilty reading them because they provide SO MUCH entertainment value, and all for free.

I have no guilt. I just enjoy the ride.

This is what I look like when Tridentboy starts a new thread:

 

Capt Caveman

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No, buying online is much better than trying to get something off the rack if you don't have an OTR body type. Even then, the armholes and so forth from OTR suits will be so large as to accommodate as many body shapes as possible that it will fit poorly.

Bunch of idiots here. I'm going to talk to a few people in person about the suit and get some more feedback. I'll end up shipping it back to have it remade.

On top of that, I DO NOT want to go an alteration chain. I don't want my suit or shirts to look altered! It's very obvious for most jobs and looks like shit. Won't really fix it anyway and it won't look sharp. It'll look like a hackjob, which most alterations are and alteration chains are full of.

Tired of the igits in this forum who think they fucking know anything.

Quoted for comedy gold! I'm guessing you've never had anything altered by a good tailor. Like usual, you talk about things like you have a clue but have zero.

Yes, you know so much about bespoke suits b/c you've read about them online. Like you how you knew so much about indochino and yet couldn't get a suit that fit even though you haven't even gotten it altered. And I bet, you believe a Brooks Brother's suit is beneath you.

You got fired from your only job out of school and you're calling us idiots. Yeah, hope you're enjoying that expensive trash can and vacuum cleaner, idiot.
 

PhoKingGuy

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I got a MTM suit from Brooks Brothers for like 650 during one of their sales. Fits like a complete glove for my weird body size.
 

Ns1

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I got a MTM suit from Brooks Brothers for like 650 during one of their sales. Fits like a complete glove for my weird body size.

Only cuz you don't realize you look like ass. Bespoke or bust.

I bet those BB hacks couldn't even get your waist size right.
 

11thHour

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I'm thinking of getting this to start.
http://www.indochino.com/product/premium-charcoal-birdseye-suit (w/ vest)
http://www.allenedmonds.com/shoes/m...toe-oxfords/SF270.html?dwvar_SF270_color=5615
http://www.indochino.com/product/premium-solid-white-shirt

Still looking around for ties and the right socks. And I'd like another color shirt but idk what color/pattern. Difficult.

Gonna order the suit and shirt tomorrow. Probably order another shirt while I'm at it. (A non-premium one to get a feel) If I had the balls and looks to match, I'd get this suit too. http://www.indochino.com/product/indigo-shadow-windowpane-suit (this also caught my eye, http://www.indochino.com/product/charcoal-shadow-windowpane-suit )

Peewee Herman was a visionary. He recommends a bow tie with that suit.

 
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TridenT

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Peewee Herman was a visionary. He recommends a bow tie with that suit.


Not far off.

Here is what I ended up looking like after losing 7lbs from cold+stomach flu while still being sick, taking a photo in the middle of the night, and never ever getting a haircut.

I'm returning it tomorrow. I've been too sick to go out and get it done but I will now.

 

cbrunny

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Oct 12, 2007
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I just googled the differences between MTM & Bespoke:

http://garrisonbespoke.com/the-difference-bespoke-and-made-to-measure-suits/

MADE-TO-MEASURE

Don’t be fooled, investing in a made-to-measure suit is not the same as investing in a bespoke suit. High-end brands have been able to overlap the terms, however, by offering their customers suits constructed using multiple measurements – with a few added personal touches – to create a garment that accurately fits. The truth is that made-to-measure suits still conform to a design template being mass-produced by a company to make its sales.

Brands that offer made-to-measure suits have made the process a fairly easy and a quick one for all types of men. Measurements taken by a consultant or calculated by an online tailoring system are sent off to a factory machine that is programmed to know basic proportions. In a matter of days, the suit is ready for wear. If additional alterations are required, they might be done on site, but these days little or no hand-made elements are incorporated into the assembly of a made-to-measure suit.

Ultimately, the effort in creating a suit that is unique to a single wearer is lost in the made-to-measure process. The one-on-one consultations between client and tailor are compromised to simply submitting measurements, picking a lining, choosing some buttons and possibly having the suit monogrammed. Other than that, you end up with a swatch that has been customised to fit you in the best way it can.

BESPOKE

Buying a bespoke suit is not cheap, but nothing compares to the experience of creating a quality garment that is tailored specifically for your body and lifestyle. Unlike an off-the-rack or made-to-measure suit, every material, cut and detail used to construct a bespoke suit is decided upon multiple consultations and fittings with a trusted tailor. As Simon Crompton writes, your suit should “(be)spoken for in person.”

Designing a bespoke suit requires more time and patience than a made-to-measure suit. This is because you are not buying into any sort of model or prototype. The options are essentially endless in bespoke, whereas a made-to-measure suit has limits on the adjustments available on predetermined materials. On top of all the planning involved is the extensive assembly of the bespoke suit. Every part of the suit is handmade by expert craftsman.

Beyond that, the bespoke suit is designed to highlight the best features and undermine any potential flaws of its wearer. An honest tailor will work with a client to select the shapes and patterns that suit his body and make the most flattering statements. Multiple fittings then take place along the suits construction to make sure the fit is completely accurate.

All this time and money gets invested into a suit that will last you a lifetime. Not only will the craftsmanship of the garment stand the test of time, but bespoke suits incorporate hidden material inside the jacket’s lining so that necessary adjustments can be made as the body changes. This means the quality and feeling of the suit will never be compromised.

Ain't no way you're getting a true bespoke suit. You're getting scammed.
 
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cbrunny

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Also quick google search says that Indochino manufactures their suits in China. Which means your "trusted tailor" is actually probably either a 10 year old child or an overworked, underpaid adult.
 

emperus

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Isn't this sweet, TridenT has a girlfriend. :wub:

Har Har. Don't know who Trident is and don't care. My comments are to the statements regarding suits.

Yes, a lot of the advice in this thread is really bad. I take care of my body and thus like clothes that fit well on it. Not everyone has that preference or even cares about that preference. But those that don't probably shouldn't be given advice on clothing.
 

emperus

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Also quick google search says that Indochino manufactures their suits in China. Which means your "trusted tailor" is actually probably either a 10 year old child or an overworked, underpaid adult.

Look it. I've never purchased a suit from Indochino and won't vouch for them. But if you are getting a discount suit that is less that 300 where do you think those are coming from?

If your beef is with the quality/price of Indochino, fine, keep it at that. But I'm sure those $100 suits brought up earlier in this thread are made by Union employees in Chicago.
 

zinfamous

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A lot of this advice in this thread is iffy. I have a lot of friends and family that get suits made overseas and have them shipped. Once you find a good tailor, get your initial measurements and fit squared away it's as easy as picking a new pattern. It's much cheaper than buying a MTM suit in the US and better quality than those Macys/MW suits.

I can't speak for Indochino but they do have some local shops. I know they have one in Copley in Boston.

But, again what you buy depends on what you want/need. Just know what you are buying and how much you're paying. A $100 suit from JC penny is probably going to be polyester. While a $750 Hugo Boss suit from Bloomingdale probably isn't worth it since it's fused (made that mistake when I was younger). I know Mens Wearhouse had a b1g1 free sale on Clearance suits a couple months back. A friend picked up 2 Calvin Klein and 2 Michael Kors suits for about $180. I should have probably bought one at that price but wouldn't buy them at even sale prices.

This is good advice, especially if you have the connections. I have some friends that managed to snag some perfectly tailored, high quality wool suits from a private tailor in South Korea for something like $150 per suit. Just needed to send the dude your measurements and pick them up in person.

This was maybe ~10 years ago, though.
 

emperus

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I got a MTM suit from Brooks Brothers for like 650 during one of their sales. Fits like a complete glove for my weird body size.

I too have a weird body type, (big thighs). So the Fitzgerald doesn't fit unless I go up in size and then the shoulders are off. When I went in last, wasn't confident in all the alterations that would need to happen (though the saleswoman said they would comp them). I need a new charcoal suit. I might try that. What is the original price on the MTM?
 

cbrunny

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Look it. I've never purchased a suit from Indochino and won't vouch for them. But if you are getting a discount suit that is less that 300 where do you think those are coming from?

If your beef is with the quality/price of Indochino, fine, keep it at that. But I'm sure those $100 suits brought up earlier in this thread are made by Union employees in Chicago.

beef is with a guy who thinks he can/should order a suit online and expect true bespoke quality.

I'm under no illusion over where my clothing comes from. (fwiw, I wouldn't buy a $100 suit... I think the cheapest suit I have is about $400. All of mine are OTR.)
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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Not far off.

Here is what I ended up looking like after losing 7lbs from cold+stomach flu while still being sick, taking a photo in the middle of the night, and never ever getting a haircut.

I'm returning it tomorrow. I've been too sick to go out and get it done but I will now.


Does your barber still think you are 8 years old or something?

The suit isn't the problem.
 

PingviN

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You need to dump that spread(?) collar and get a cutaway. It's all wrong for your face.
 
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