buying food stamps secondhand

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slag

Lifer
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What you posted has no bearing on this thread. They've already accounted for the food stamps going out. They won't give him more just because he sold the ones he has.
 

keird

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The severity of your rationalization is akin to saying sex and rape are the same thing.
 

nanette1985

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The $200 in benefits are usually attached to a card issued by the government. Once the person sells it to you for $120, they have to give you their pin and card. Likely they then claim it was lost and get a new one with benefits renewed next month. This whole process costs money. Those cards aren't crazy expensive but they are not negligible either. Usually they are made and issued by a third party vendor that the government uses.

Why else can't you buy it for $120 and let them buy some random thing instead? Because the purpose is to ensure that a family has access to decent food so that they are not malnourished. The chances are good that they are not using that $120 to feed their family nutritious meals.

That's not what happens when your SNAP card is "lost." it takes a lot more than a month to get your account reinstated - if ever. Also if the card has been accessed when you report it lost, you get blacklisted The whole SNAP process is complicated. You work hard for that food money.
 
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dquan97

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That's not what happens when your SNAP card is "lost." it takes a lot more than a month to get your account reinstated - if ever. Also if the card has been accessed when you report it lost, you get blacklisted The whole SNAP process is complicated. You work hard for that food money.

Actually, the applicant can get a replacement card within a week.
 

dquan97

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Not necessarily. A family can qualify for food stamps yet not be eligible for welfare. Two separate things.

I have a broad definition for welfare: receiving gov't assistance such as SNAP, Medicare, SSI, etc. due to unemployment, low income, or other conditions.
 

torpid

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That's not what happens when your SNAP card is "lost." it takes a lot more than a month to get your account reinstated - if ever. Also if the card has been accessed when you report it lost, you get blacklisted The whole SNAP process is complicated. You work hard for that food money.

Maybe it varies by state or has changed in the past couple of years, but there has been a lot of coverage here in WI about the selling of snap cards. Tons of people have had 6 or more cards "lost" and many reported it lost 12 times in one year, according to the milwaukee journal sentinel.
 

thestrangebrew1

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You don't have to wait a month. In my office, we issue a 2nd card pretty much as soon as they ask. Anything after that we refer them to the state number to call and req. a new one. That card I imagine takes a little longer.
 

unokitty

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I know a woman with a debilitating illness whose husband, the sole earner at that point due to her condition, suddenly died. She received some government assistance for food for a while. It wasn't something she was happy about but it was necessary, and thankfully it was available.

So yeah, way to go evil communist hippie Democrats.

:rollseyes:


You know one person out of 46 million? And you present that as if it were somehow statistically significant.

Will you be offended if I don't agree?

Uno
 
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Why is it illegal to purchase food stamps secondhand? Lets say a random person, Jim, is elligible for $200 worth of food stamps a week. Lets say he wants something that costs $120.00. I give him $120 in exchange for his food stamps, but he has enough to eat on since he stocked up last week or has a friend who will take him in until he gets more stamps.

Why is this wrong? Jim makes the decision that he can eat or go to a friends house, the government has already OK'd that jim is eligible for $200.00, after it leaves their hands, why do they have a say in what happens to the money? :wub::wub:

If Jim can do without that $200 in food, then Jim doesn't need the food stamps.
 
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I have a broad definition for welfare: receiving gov't assistance such as SNAP, Medicare, SSI, etc. due to unemployment, low income, or other conditions.

If you depend on some sort of government assistance to live your daily life like you mention, it's welfare.
 

HeXen

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If you depend on some sort of government assistance to live your daily life like you mention, it's welfare.

yes, there are different forms of welfare which include health care, food stamps, child care assistance, unemployment, cash aid, and housing assistance.

On any one of those and yes, could be considered as that person being on welfare.
 

wirednuts

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Why is it illegal to purchase food stamps secondhand? Lets say a random person, Jim, is elligible for $200 worth of food stamps a week. Lets say he wants something that costs $120.00. I give him $120 in exchange for his food stamps, but he has enough to eat on since he stocked up last week or has a friend who will take him in until he gets more stamps.

Why is this wrong? Jim makes the decision that he can eat or go to a friends house, the government has already OK'd that jim is eligible for $200.00, after it leaves their hands, why do they have a say in what happens to the money? :wub::wub:

i hate this. people ask me all the time to buy their food stamps. i get pissed off and tell them flat out I ALREADY PAID FOR THOSE ONCE. I AM NOT PAYING FOR THEM AGAIN ASSHOLE.
 

D1gger

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The government is already giving away money, its the same, no matter who uses it..

EDIT: My deadbeat adopted sister has foodstamps. She has 4 kids with 3 different fathers, is currently married, gets a ton of money monthly with foodstamps, yet begs my mom for milk money and stuff constantly. Sickens me. They got 17k in tax refunds from our hard earned money this year, and blew through it in 2-3 months. Now they can't make their trailer payment, can't pay their lot fee, cant afford to put gas in their vehicles, yet somehow her genius of a husband can afford smokes and skoal and she always has a super large gulp in her hands.

Disgusting..

So you want to further enable your deadbeat sister to buy her super large gulp, smokes and skoals and neglect her kids need for food. Strange logic there.
 

wirednuts

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yes, there are different forms of welfare which include health care, food stamps, child care assistance, unemployment, cash aid, and housing assistance.

On any one of those and yes, could be considered as that person being on welfare.

i just got into it with my best friend last night over this. he has two kids, on food stamps and the state pays for his $700 3br apartment thats bigger then mine. he was trying to tell me "i work fucker, i have a job and i support my kids!"

i was like "no, the state supports you and your kids. my taxes pay for that. if you didnt have government help you would be working 80 hours a week and not be buying expensive camping gear and drugs"

somehow i was the idiot, and he doesnt even want to talk to me anymore. so be it.
 

OverVolt

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Yes, its illegal. And yes, they just blow it at convenience stores at 200% markup.

Its a legit opportunity of sorts. It has been his way for ages.

Why do you think city convenience stores charge so much for soda, candy, etc? I've noticed this about a couple of cities, trying to think about what it was their industries did. Did they have a steel industry? manufacturing base? Shipping docks?

Turns out it seems the main revenue stream for cities is gas station convenience stores, lottery tickets, etc. Essentially gouging SNAP. Maybe I will open up a convenience store someday in a bad neighborhood and accept food stamps. I would know my business model, and if there were any cuts in food stamps or decrease in enrollment I would sell the store ASAP lol.
 
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wirednuts

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Yes, its illegal. And yes, they just blow it at convenience stores at 200% markup.

dont remind me! god this makes me so mad. ive trained myself to always prepare before hand so i never have to buy things at gas stations. its a hard discipline to learn. and then these lazy bastards spend $5 of my tax money on a bag of chips like they need it. ugh i need to stop thinking
 

endlessmike

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You know one person out of 46 million? And you present that as if it were somehow statistically significant.

Will you be offended if I don't agree?

Uno

Don't see where that happened, but ok. I will refrain from making simple counterpoints to your sweeping generalizations in the future.
 

weadjust

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Mobile 'grocers' key in to Lone Star card market.

At the corner of Milby and Navigation in Houston's East End, business at Randy's Fine Foods is booming.

Never heard of them?

Then you're not a Lone Star Card user, the food stamp-enabled debit card that has soared in use over the past two years, with a million more Texans added since 2008. As of July, more than 3.6 million had Lone Star Cards.

"We rarely get cash," said Keidrick James, a Randy's manager, who estimates "99.1" of the company's customers are Lone Star Card holders.

Randy's drivers sell what the company bought from grocery behemoth Sysco Foods. Frozen meat and breaded shrimp. Catfish nuggets and chicken tenders.

But junk food is the big seller.

Pop Tarts, Famous Amos and Oreo cookies. Honey buns, candy bars and corn dogs. Laffy Taffy and cheesecake. Pickles are the only vegetable listed on a Randy's menu.

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...s-key-in-to-Lone-Star-card-market-3764557.php
 

weadjust

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1. Get approved to accept snap card
2. Buy van and bulk junk food @ wholesaler
3. Mark price up 3 to 4 times over retail
5. Drive and park in the hood
4. Get tons of food stamp money legally
 

slag

Lifer
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So you want to further enable your deadbeat sister to buy her super large gulp, smokes and skoals and neglect her kids need for food. Strange logic there.

Hell no, I'd never buy foodstamps from anyone. I never said this is something I'd do and wouldn't ever dream of doing it. I simply posed the question as to why it is illegal.
 

rudeguy

Lifer
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Hell no, I'd never buy foodstamps from anyone. I never said this is something I'd do and wouldn't ever dream of doing it. I simply posed the question as to why it is illegal.

because I'm already paying for their house, their cell phone, their internet, their car and their healthcare. I don't need to pay for their weed and cigs too.
 

Sonikku

Lifer
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I know a woman with a debilitating illness whose husband, the sole earner at that point due to her condition, suddenly died. She received some government assistance for food for a while. It wasn't something she was happy about but it was necessary, and thankfully it was available.

So yeah, way to go evil communist hippie Democrats.

:rollseyes:

Why are we paying with MY tax dollars to keep someone with a debilitating illness alive in the first place?

What has she produced for the economy?

Take take take. Never any give. Sounds to me like she ought to do something for us instead of relying on someone else all the time to give her a hand out.
 
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