Bye bye Firefox

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: GundamSonicZeroX
I love FF2. I've had no problems with it and I've had it for about a week now.

since the weekend and a fresh OS install ...

damn thing keeps underlining my words in red as i type
:Q



OK, so far ... so goof ... i won't even bother with IE7 [win2k, anyway] .... IE6[final] still crashes on a brand new install of completely updated Win2K SP4

 

[archcommus]

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: John

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I installed IE7 last week and it's so-so. I think it's a step down from IE6...aside from the tabs.

How exactly is it a step down from IE6?

Well for one it doesn't have the 6 years of tweaking that IE6 does. And that, of course, won't be changing for... well... 6 years.

I've heard that IE7 is great, but buggy as hell. I declined to install it when Windows Update downloaded it. I have FF installed, but I just keep using IE6 because I have no problem with using it.

That is simply false.

Originally posted by: Amused
I still don't understand the problems people are having with IE7.

I've had no instance if "IE must be shut down" errors. I used to get one once a week or so with IE6.

And with installs on over a dozen machines I own or support, not one problem. From high end gaming systems, to old slow systems, to laptops and inbetween.

Weird.

Agreed, I've installed it on my system, friend's 512 MB/Celeron laptop via Windows Update, and father's 256 MB/Athlon XP system manually, all went just fine and it works great.

 

[kumanchu]

i like opera.

 

[getbush]

I've been a FF user for years, but FF2 has just been the worst for me. It's the most unstable FF i've ever had, seriously. I've had more instability and problems with FF2 then with all my other FF use up to this point combined. I'm tryin out opera 9 right now and liking it so far.

 

[Noema]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
I've used FireFox... not bad, but I don't see what all the hoopla is about.

Tabbed browing

Stability

Ability to uninstall

plug in based

Anyone else care to add?

You forgot it's open source as well

 

[Noema]

By the way

 

[The Pentium Guy]

Originally posted by: Noema
By the way

WAIT. MS bought over MOZILLA?

EDIT. :|:|:|

Googling Filter
Proactively warns and helps protect you against potential or known fraudulent sites such as Google.com, blocks the site and shuts down your computer if necessary.

Tabbed Browsing
View multiple Microsoft sites in a single browser window. Easily switch from one Microsoft site to another through tabs at the top of the browser frame.

.

 

[apoppin]

and maybe NSFW

check out "Fun at the Speed of Light"

somebody has a LOT of extra time

 

[UCJefe]

Originally posted by: eits
sweet! my ban has been lifted!

anyways, firefox 2 is sweet... get it. i used to hate it and all of its bugs, but they got rid of the bugs.

it still uses a ton of ram, but whatever... i don't feel it... eventually, i'm sure they'll fix that.

i'd use ie7 if only it had firefox's search prompt...

Inline Search... free
Spell Check... free
Dropping Firefox and never looking back... priceless.

I've been putting up with all of FF's nonsense since the Phoenix days and I'm glad it's gone.

:beer: for me

 

[Scooby Doo]

Opera's screen zoom far greater than anything in IE 7.

 

[Childs]

I love how FF 2 can restore your session. I often refuse to reboot because I dont like closing windows. Now its more bearable. I wish all apps did this.

 

[schneiderguy]

Originally posted by: Childs
I love how FF 2 can restore your session. I often refuse to reboot because I dont like closing windows. Now its more bearable. I wish all apps did this.

Opera has had this feature for as long as I can remember

 

[Childs]

Originally posted by: schneiderguy

Originally posted by: Childs
I love how FF 2 can restore your session. I often refuse to reboot because I dont like closing windows. Now its more bearable. I wish all apps did this.

Opera has had this feature for as long as I can remember

The last time I used Opera it seemed too busy. I like the minimalistic approach of Firefox, and Safari in OSX.

 

[archcommus]

Originally posted by: UCJefe

Originally posted by: eits
sweet! my ban has been lifted!

anyways, firefox 2 is sweet... get it. i used to hate it and all of its bugs, but they got rid of the bugs.

it still uses a ton of ram, but whatever... i don't feel it... eventually, i'm sure they'll fix that.

i'd use ie7 if only it had firefox's search prompt...

Inline Search... free
Spell Check... free
Dropping Firefox and never looking back... priceless.

I've been putting up with all of FF's nonsense since the Phoenix days and I'm glad it's gone.

:beer: for me

Thanks for the Inline Search link. IE7 keeps gettin better.

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Originally posted by: RossMAN
Seriously Opera 9.x > IE 7

The grand nagus has spoken. Head his words.

Now for the doubters...

Originally posted by: Aharami
2. If you click the right edge of the back and forward button at the top, it will drop down a list of the pages you can go to. In essence it does allow you to skip multiple pages back or forward. Additionally you can use the fast-forward and fast-back buttons to go back/forward many pages at once.

what right edge?

also wtf..Opera opens the reply window as a new tab, but it looks like a small window. Only that it cannot be moved out of the borders of the main opera window

Tools --> Appearance --> Buttons --> Browser --> There are back and forward buttons there with dropdown menus that you can drag and drop pretty much anywhere on the toolbar.

If you drag the tab (from the tab bar, not the window itself) outside of the main window, it will undock itself and become a seperate window.

Originally posted by: Aharami
ok Opera definitely loads up the pages faster than ffx. Also with the same 4 tabs open on both, Opera is using 38228K, ffx is using 76220K. I think i might make Opera my default browser for now. Does Opera have an Adblock feature?

Opera does have a 'Content blocker' that works quite well, supports wildcards and everything. You can find precompiled lists for it on the web, but I use The Proxomitron

Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Opera has two problems.

1. Click back too many times and you get some stupid bitch that belongs in a Mac commercial on your screen.
2. There's no small back/forward arrow to skip multiple pages back/forward.

Until they fix those, FF FTW!

1. Tools --> Preferences --> set startup to 'start with home page'
You have it set on continue from last session.

2. See above

Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...adid=1959210&STARTPAGE=2&enterthread=y

That's the page that caused it. Must be someone's picture in the thread, but I don't know why it would open on its own. Goatse would've shocked me less. :|

EDIT: Apparently it was DP's picture that caused it. Why would it open on its own?

This is a feature, not a bug. It's called FastForward. In theory, it's a predictor that is supposed to find the next page of a thread, news article, etc or if there isn't one go to the next thread on the forum. You can try it out on the stickied Boycott BF2142 thread. Unfortunately, it doesn't work as expected in Anandtech if there isn't a next page to the thread.

If it really bothers you, I'm sure there is a way to disable it somewhere, but you can read about it here

 

[archcommus]

Sorry buddy, there may be a way to fix most people's gripes with Opera, but if it still can't 100% replace IE7, I'm not interested and your grand nagus's recommendation isn't necessarily the best for everybody. I don't want to use another browser unless I can use it exclusively, that includes never having to switch over due to rendering issues or problems with Flash/Java, or due to encountering IE-exclusive websites.

 

[ForumMaster]

Opera FTW! widgets are growing and it has a spell check too. also uses very little ram. looks at my sig for the features! Mouse Gestures are the best!

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: archcommus
Sorry buddy, there may be a way to fix most people's gripes with Opera, but if it still can't 100% replace IE7, I'm not interested and your grand nagus's recommendation isn't necessarily the best for everybody. I don't want to use another browser unless I can use it exclusively, that includes never having to switch over due to rendering issues or problems with Flash/Java, or due to encountering IE-exclusive websites.

There is currently no browser that can be used exclusively for everything.

 

[WildHorse]

FF 2.0 works fine for me.

Add-ons Adblock and NoScript really help shield out the junk

Don't use IE for anything but Windows updates, and for a bank that requires it.

 

[archcommus]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: archcommus
Sorry buddy, there may be a way to fix most people's gripes with Opera, but if it still can't 100% replace IE7, I'm not interested and your grand nagus's recommendation isn't necessarily the best for everybody. I don't want to use another browser unless I can use it exclusively, that includes never having to switch over due to rendering issues or problems with Flash/Java, or due to encountering IE-exclusive websites.

There is currently no browser that can be used exclusively for everything.

Well considering I've been using IE exclusively my whole life, I beg to differ. What are you saying prevents me from using IE exclusively?

 

[CP5670]

Firefox does have some annoying problems (like deleting all your bookmarks/settings every now and then), but Adblock simply owns all.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: archcommus

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: archcommus
Sorry buddy, there may be a way to fix most people's gripes with Opera, but if it still can't 100% replace IE7, I'm not interested and your grand nagus's recommendation isn't necessarily the best for everybody. I don't want to use another browser unless I can use it exclusively, that includes never having to switch over due to rendering issues or problems with Flash/Java, or due to encountering IE-exclusive websites.

There is currently no browser that can be used exclusively for everything.

Well considering I've been using IE exclusively my whole life, I beg to differ. What are you saying prevents me from using IE exclusively?

What do you use to investigate sites potentially containing malicious content for Internet Explorer?

 

[archcommus]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: archcommus

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: archcommus
Sorry buddy, there may be a way to fix most people's gripes with Opera, but if it still can't 100% replace IE7, I'm not interested and your grand nagus's recommendation isn't necessarily the best for everybody. I don't want to use another browser unless I can use it exclusively, that includes never having to switch over due to rendering issues or problems with Flash/Java, or due to encountering IE-exclusive websites.

There is currently no browser that can be used exclusively for everything.

Well considering I've been using IE exclusively my whole life, I beg to differ. What are you saying prevents me from using IE exclusively?

What do you use to investigate sites potentially containing malicious content for Internet Explorer?

I don't visit such sites so I don't ever investigate that. And even if I did visit that kind of site by chance, I wouldn't know it was malicious until I was already there and already got infected, in which case I would just proceed to clean.

Originally posted by: CP5670
Firefox does have some annoying problems (like deleting all your bookmarks/settings every now and then), but Adblock simply owns all.

LOL wow that's definitely something I would not tolerate in ANY piece of software, let alone something that I use every day like a browser. I can't believe people call FF the best thing ever when it has unacceptable quirks like that.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: archcommus
I don't visit such sites so I don't ever investigate that. And even if I did visit that kind of site by chance, I wouldn't know it was malicious until I was already there and already got infected, in which case I would just proceed to clean.

Ok, so in your very limited view of the world wide web, you have no need for any browser except IE. That's all well and good, but it doesn't affect my point that is there currently no browser that is perfect for everything on the world wide web (my first statement being a bit off, but this sums it up a bit better).

Originally posted by: CP5670
LOL wow that's definitely something I would not tolerate in ANY piece of software, let alone something that I use every day like a browser. I can't believe people call FF the best thing ever when it has unacceptable quirks like that.

Generally firefox does not delete bookmarks or settings. It just gets confused about your profile and creates a new one. The fixes are simple and well known.

And I would bet a majority of users never experience these issues, much like most IE users probably never experience many of its quirks.

<- Not defending any browser, they all still suck.

 

[archcommus]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: archcommus
I don't visit such sites so I don't ever investigate that. And even if I did visit that kind of site by chance, I wouldn't know it was malicious until I was already there and already got infected, in which case I would just proceed to clean.

Ok, so in your very limited view of the world wide web, you have no need for any browser except IE. That's all well and good, but it doesn't affect my point that is there currently no browser that is perfect for everything on the world wide web (my first statement being a bit off, but this sums it up a bit better).

Originally posted by: CP5670
LOL wow that's definitely something I would not tolerate in ANY piece of software, let alone something that I use every day like a browser. I can't believe people call FF the best thing ever when it has unacceptable quirks like that.

Generally firefox does not delete bookmarks or settings. It just gets confused about your profile and creates a new one. The fixes are simple and well known.

And I would bet a majority of users never experience these issues, much like most IE users probably never experience many of its quirks.

<- Not defending any browser, they all still suck.

Good points, I'm sure that's not a frequent, hard to fix issue with Firefox. And I understand your point about IE, if you visit a lot of sites and need to test some, other browsers are required. But you have to admit that as far as site compatibility goes, IE can't be matched which is really convenient.