C&D takes the 135i for a spin

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http://www.caranddriver.com/re...i_short_take_road_test

2008 BMW 135i - Short Take Road Test

Is smaller better? Hitting 60 mph in 4.7 seconds is certainly a compelling opening argument.

February 2008

It is often said that ?small is beautiful.? And when it comes to cars, small quite often is beautiful. Certainly the diminutive and lightweight Lotus Elise is a beautiful thing. But pushed too far, the idea of small can start to get ugly?the Smart Fortwo comes to mind. So maybe the adage should be smaller is beautiful. Smaller doesn?t necessarily mean tiny, though. In the case of the BMW 135i, smaller simply means smaller than a 3-series. And ever since we sampled a European 1-series a few years ago, the idea of a BMW smaller than the 3-series has struck us as a beautiful thing.

At 4.7 Seconds to 60, Smaller is Certainly Quicker

In overall length, the 135i coupe (the 1-series is only available in the U.S. as a two-door coupe) is 8.9 inches shorter than a 335i coupe with 4.0 inches taken out of the wheelbase, and it?s also 1.4 inches narrower. These reductions amount to a weight savings of just 137 pounds; our 135i weighed 3420 pounds versus 3557 for a 335i coupe.

Fortunately, there is no reduction in engine size or output. The 135i gets the same 300-horsepower, twin-turbocharged inline-six cylinder engine as the 335i. We clocked a 0-to-60 time of 4.9 seconds for the heavier 335i; the 135i did it in a blistering 4.7, with a 13.3-second quarter-mile at 106 mph. The 135i is seriously quick, but best of all the quickness comes easy as the turbocharged engine has enough torque and horsepower to waft the 135i into triple-digit speeds without any drama. Slightly more engine noise and exhaust hum enter the 135i cabin than in the 335i, but the sounds are good enough to forgo turning on the radio.

Much Like a 3-series From the Driver?s Seat

Aside from being slightly louder, driving the 135i is much like driving a 3-series. From behind the wheel in the spacious front seat?which includes plenty of headroom?the driver isn?t aware of the 1-series? shrunken size. The four inches lopped out of the wheelbase are, however, noticeable in the back seat. Subjectively, the seats are slightly larger than a Mustang?s backseat?kids will fit just fine, adults will find it acceptable as long as the trip is short.

Since the 135i comes standard with an M-division sport suspension and 18-inch wheels wrapped with summer-friendly run-flat performance rubber, the 135i rides much like a 335i with the Sport package. There is an almost microscopic line between firm and harsh, but the 135i?s suspension somehow follows it perfectly even on large, abrupt impacts. The 135i?s structure and suspension never crash or shudder and, aimed in a straight line, the heavy steering and the sense of unyielding structure allow the 135i to approach the composure of the much larger 6-series.

In fact, the 135i doesn?t feel small until it is challenged by quick transitions or tight corners, and even then it feels light on its feet. Body roll is minimal, the tires hang on tenaciously?to the tune of 0.89 g on the skidpad?and the 135i is easy to place in corners, even when you?re doubling or nearly tripling recommended speeds. In short, the 135i never feels reckless.

2008 BMW 135i - Lots of Equipment, Lower Price

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Lots of Equipment, Lower Price

Included in the 135i?s standard equipment are six-piston front calipers emblazoned with the letters BMW. The company tells us this is the first time they?ve given in to this type of curbside posturing, but the brakes do look impressive. We?re not sure why BMW chose to put six-piston calipers on the 135i when not even the über M-cars get brakes with this many pistons, but we can?t fault the 135i?s brake feel or its stellar 70-to-0 performance of 157 feet. Other standard features on the 135i include black exhaust tips, heavily bolstered seats, and a body kit with an aggressive front air dam and mock diffuser in the rear bumper. The body kit is the main visual difference between the 135i and the 128i. But even with the body kit, the 135i looks a bit like a 3-series coupe in a funhouse mirror?the roof height seems excessive for the length, the doors look massive, and the headlights take up too much space, exaggerating the narrowness of the front end. What its design lacks in elegance, it makes up for in bulldog-like character, though.

The 135i starts at $35,675, which is $4000 less than a 335i sedan and a whopping $5900 below the cost of a 335i coupe. Unless the slightly larger size of the 335i is necessary for one?s lifestyle, the 135i provides all the thrills and refinement and will provide the same, if not more grins, than the 335i. See, smaller is better. You?ll notice that we?ve only compared the 135i with its bigger brother; that?s because there really aren?t many other cars on the market which really compare to the 135i. Indeed, it?s in a very small class: a class of one.

2008 BMW 135i - Specs

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VEHICLE TYPE: front-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 4-passenger, 2-door coupe

ESTIMATED PRICE AS TESTED: $38,000 (base price: $35,675)

ENGINE TYPE: twin-turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 24-valve inline-6, aluminum block and head, direct fuel injection

Displacement: 182 cu in, 2979cc

Power (SAE net): 300 bhp @ 5800 rpm

Torque (SAE net): 300 lb-ft @ 1400 rpm

TRANSMISSION: 6-speed manual

DIMENSIONS:

Wheelbase: 104.7 in Length: 171.7 in Width: 68.8 in Height: 55.4 in

Curb weight: 3420 lb

C/D TEST RESULTS:

Zero to 60 mph: 4.7 sec

Zero to 100 mph: 11.5 sec

Zero to 140 mph: 25.6 sec

Street start, 5?60 mph: 5.5 sec

Standing ¼-mile: 13.3 sec @ 106 mph

Top speed (governor limited): 143 mph

Braking, 70?0 mph: 157 ft

Roadholding, 328-ft-dia skidpad: 0.89 g


FUEL ECONOMY:

EPA city/highway driving: 17/25 mpg

Very solid review, and even more solid numbers. I can't wait to get my hands on one of these.
 

overst33r

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Originally posted by: Vic
http://www.caranddriver.com/re...i_short_take_road_test

2008 BMW 135i - Short Take Road Test

Is smaller better? Hitting 60 mph in 4.7 seconds is certainly a compelling opening argument.

February 2008

It is often said that ?small is beautiful.? And when it comes to cars, small quite often is beautiful. Certainly the diminutive and lightweight Lotus Elise is a beautiful thing. But pushed too far, the idea of small can start to get ugly?the Smart Fortwo comes to mind. So maybe the adage should be smaller is beautiful. Smaller doesn?t necessarily mean tiny, though. In the case of the BMW 135i, smaller simply means smaller than a 3-series. And ever since we sampled a European 1-series a few years ago, the idea of a BMW smaller than the 3-series has struck us as a beautiful thing.

At 4.7 Seconds to 60, Smaller is Certainly Quicker

In overall length, the 135i coupe (the 1-series is only available in the U.S. as a two-door coupe) is 8.9 inches shorter than a 335i coupe with 4.0 inches taken out of the wheelbase, and it?s also 1.4 inches narrower. These reductions amount to a weight savings of just 137 pounds; our 135i weighed 3420 pounds versus 3557 for a 335i coupe.

Fortunately, there is no reduction in engine size or output. The 135i gets the same 300-horsepower, twin-turbocharged inline-six cylinder engine as the 335i. We clocked a 0-to-60 time of 4.9 seconds for the heavier 335i; the 135i did it in a blistering 4.7, with a 13.3-second quarter-mile at 106 mph. The 135i is seriously quick, but best of all the quickness comes easy as the turbocharged engine has enough torque and horsepower to waft the 135i into triple-digit speeds without any drama. Slightly more engine noise and exhaust hum enter the 135i cabin than in the 335i, but the sounds are good enough to forgo turning on the radio.

Much Like a 3-series From the Driver?s Seat

Aside from being slightly louder, driving the 135i is much like driving a 3-series. From behind the wheel in the spacious front seat?which includes plenty of headroom?the driver isn?t aware of the 1-series? shrunken size. The four inches lopped out of the wheelbase are, however, noticeable in the back seat. Subjectively, the seats are slightly larger than a Mustang?s backseat?kids will fit just fine, adults will find it acceptable as long as the trip is short.

Since the 135i comes standard with an M-division sport suspension and 18-inch wheels wrapped with summer-friendly run-flat performance rubber, the 135i rides much like a 335i with the Sport package. There is an almost microscopic line between firm and harsh, but the 135i?s suspension somehow follows it perfectly even on large, abrupt impacts. The 135i?s structure and suspension never crash or shudder and, aimed in a straight line, the heavy steering and the sense of unyielding structure allow the 135i to approach the composure of the much larger 6-series.

In fact, the 135i doesn?t feel small until it is challenged by quick transitions or tight corners, and even then it feels light on its feet. Body roll is minimal, the tires hang on tenaciously?to the tune of 0.89 g on the skidpad?and the 135i is easy to place in corners, even when you?re doubling or nearly tripling recommended speeds. In short, the 135i never feels reckless.

2008 BMW 135i - Lots of Equipment, Lower Price

(continued)

Lots of Equipment, Lower Price

Included in the 135i?s standard equipment are six-piston front calipers emblazoned with the letters BMW. The company tells us this is the first time they?ve given in to this type of curbside posturing, but the brakes do look impressive. We?re not sure why BMW chose to put six-piston calipers on the 135i when not even the über M-cars get brakes with this many pistons, but we can?t fault the 135i?s brake feel or its stellar 70-to-0 performance of 157 feet. Other standard features on the 135i include black exhaust tips, heavily bolstered seats, and a body kit with an aggressive front air dam and mock diffuser in the rear bumper. The body kit is the main visual difference between the 135i and the 128i. But even with the body kit, the 135i looks a bit like a 3-series coupe in a funhouse mirror?the roof height seems excessive for the length, the doors look massive, and the headlights take up too much space, exaggerating the narrowness of the front end. What its design lacks in elegance, it makes up for in bulldog-like character, though.

The 135i starts at $35,675, which is $4000 less than a 335i sedan and a whopping $5900 below the cost of a 335i coupe. Unless the slightly larger size of the 335i is necessary for one?s lifestyle, the 135i provides all the thrills and refinement and will provide the same, if not more grins, than the 335i. See, smaller is better. You?ll notice that we?ve only compared the 135i with its bigger brother; that?s because there really aren?t many other cars on the market which really compare to the 135i. Indeed, it?s in a very small class: a class of one.

2008 BMW 135i - Specs

(continued)

VEHICLE TYPE: front-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 4-passenger, 2-door coupe

ESTIMATED PRICE AS TESTED: $38,000 (base price: $35,675)

ENGINE TYPE: twin-turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 24-valve inline-6, aluminum block and head, direct fuel injection

Displacement: 182 cu in, 2979cc

Power (SAE net): 300 bhp @ 5800 rpm

Torque (SAE net): 300 lb-ft @ 1400 rpm

TRANSMISSION: 6-speed manual

DIMENSIONS:

Wheelbase: 104.7 in Length: 171.7 in Width: 68.8 in Height: 55.4 in

Curb weight: 3420 lb

C/D TEST RESULTS:

Zero to 60 mph: 4.7 sec

Zero to 100 mph: 11.5 sec

Zero to 140 mph: 25.6 sec

Street start, 5?60 mph: 5.5 sec

Standing ¼-mile: 13.3 sec @ 106 mph

Top speed (governor limited): 143 mph

Braking, 70?0 mph: 157 ft

Roadholding, 328-ft-dia skidpad: 0.89 g


FUEL ECONOMY:

EPA city/highway driving: 17/25 mpg

Very solid review, and even more solid numbers. I can't wait to get my hands on one of these.

What a beast. Really good overall package and excellent value.
 

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Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
would someone care to explain why the 0-60 time is less than the 5-60 time?

0-60 is from a stop, where you can launch the car by revving it up and trying to get the perfect amount of wheelspin to keep the car in the power band, whereas a street start (5-60) is from low engine rpm and no use of the clutch.

 

SearchMaster

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Originally posted by: RGUN
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
would someone care to explain why the 0-60 time is less than the 5-60 time?

0-60 is from a stop, where you can launch the car by revving it up and trying to get the perfect amount of wheelspin to keep the car in the power band, whereas a street start (5-60) is from low engine rpm and no use of the clutch.

5-60 is generally a better indication of "real-world" torque, as most people don't spin their wheels often to maximize acceleration off the line, but they may floor it from a stop (without smoking the tires).
 

overst33r

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The 5-60 time isn't all that considering it makes 300lbft of torque at 1300 rpm...
 

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Originally posted by: mariok2006
The 5-60 time isn't all that considering it makes 300lbft of torque at 1300 rpm...

The spread between it and the 0-60 time is pretty typical, driveline abuse pays off in 0-60 time. Having driven the 335i (twice) I can say you certainly don't feel any lag.
 

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Included in the 135i?s standard equipment are six-piston front calipers emblazoned with the letters BMW. The company tells us this is the first time they?ve given in to this type of curbside posturing, but the brakes do look impressive.

This part struck me as weird. My car has huge "BMW" lettering on the factory front calipers, and it's 14 years old.

That aside, this looks like this could be an awesome little car. At first I was thinking it'd be somewhat overpriced for what it is, but its definitely got the numbers to back it up.
 

Aharami

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I just wish they'd made it a bit lighter. Something in the tune of 3200-3300 would be perfect
 

PricklyPete

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Originally posted by: Aharami
I just wish they'd made it a bit lighter. Something in the tune of 3200-3300 would be perfect

The car gets to 60 in 4.7 seconds...that was super car territory only a couple of years ago...heck it really is still super car territory.
 

DivideBYZero

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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: ElFenix
i'd still rather have the 335i coupe

:thumbsup:

With an LSD option I would, too.

It's there, you just have to go aftermarket :

http://www.turnermotorsport.co...ODUCT_ID=100-100-00008

~$4k, but I still think the 335i + LSD + ECU Tune >>>>>>>> M3.

I can't say, I haven't been down to drive them both yet. My dealer has an ex demo e92 M3 in the lot, too... :evil:
 

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sjwaste

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I've been following the 135i and 335i, both definitely nice looking cars with plenty under the hood and a great interior. I'd love to own one, but I always come back to, "That's a great car, but not for 50k." There are already 335's going used in my area for 35-37k, but I'm hoping that the 07's might dip a little bit further over the next 12mos. Of course, owning an out of warranty BMW is asking for it, right?
 

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
BMW is cooking up some nice options for the 1.

Damn, I would love to blow $50K on this car+options...if not more. I love it.

at the end, Edmunds says:

"If there were any doubts that BMW wants to attract younger buyers with the 1 Series, this new line of accessories should lay them to rest"

I haven't seen these other options listed on the website yet, but what they already have can easily push the car past 40K. If they are looking for younger buyers they are quickly pricing themselves out of that market.
 

Aharami

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Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
BMW is cooking up some nice options for the 1.

Damn, I would love to blow $50K on this car+options...if not more. I love it.

at the end, Edmunds says:

"If there were any doubts that BMW wants to attract younger buyers with the 1 Series, this new line of accessories should lay them to rest"

I haven't seen these other options listed on the website yet, but what they already have can easily push the car past 40K. If they are looking for younger buyers they are quickly pricing themselves out of that market.

yea. I dunno what young buyer can afford a $50K car. Maybe some wall streeters, or late 20's lawyers but by that time those people are over the go-fast, tune-happy, carbon fiber everywhere mentality. I know I am.
 

Vic

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Performance comparison from C&D test results:

135i...... Evo GSR...... WRX STI

0-60: 4.7..... 4.6.... 5.0 seconds
0-100: 11.5..... 12.5..... 12.6 seconds
5?60: 5.0...... 6.1..... 6.8 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.3 @ 106.... 13.4 @ 103..... 13.5 @ 103 mph
Top speed: 143 (gov ltd)..... 155 (redline ltd)..... 150 mph (gov ltd)
70?0: 157..... 161..... 153 feet
Skidpad: 0.89..... 0.97..... 0.89 g
MPG City/Hwy: 17/25 ..... 16/22..... 17/23
Base MSRP: $35,675..... $33,615..... $35,640

So yeah, I don't know what young buyers can afford a $35k car...
 
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