C4 Mousepad out of Beta!

[xenocyd3]

i bought one :beer:

 

[sobrien42]

Originally posted by: Slickone
Couldn't you have one that's already rubber backed, to keep from having to stick it to something?

We're working on that but I need to source the right mousepad. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Looking for thinner pad with hard coat (non-fabric) & low cost. Cost is the main problem--we are trying to keep this product priced at attractive levels. If we start adding a mousepad and labor to laminate, cost climbs.

We are continuously reviewing this line for updates. I do not expect the mounted C4 to be available any time soon.

Sher

 

[Crank]

Heck, what about laminating your product on to thin sheets of rubber?
Kind of like the 3M Precise Mousing Surface. Tons of surface area to prevent slipping on the desk, a nice thin pad, and smooth as all get out.

 

[Samus]

i put mine over a piece of particle board

 

[Johnbear007]

Originally posted by: sobrien42

Originally posted by: Slickone
Couldn't you have one that's already rubber backed, to keep from having to stick it to something?

We're working on that but I need to source the right mousepad. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Looking for thinner pad with hard coat (non-fabric) & low cost. Cost is the main problem--we are trying to keep this product priced at attractive levels. If we start adding a mousepad and labor to laminate, cost climbs.

We are continuously reviewing this line for updates. I do not expect the mounted C4 to be available any time soon.

Sher

Personally I don't think a mounted version is worth the effort, unless there is alot of demand for it. I personally don't have a problem finding something hard to stick it to.

If you really want to offer one already prepped, then why limit your self to mouse pads as a surface? It doesnt really need to be stuck to a mouse pad. Just find some kind of cheap/firm plastic?

 

[imported_Pablo]

I'm a beta tester. Nice and slick with both teflon feet and mousing surface. The mousing surface is one of the most accurate i've had. I have it on a cloth belkin pad, and like previous users said, it likes to come unstuck. I would definately recommend putting it directly on your desktop or on a hard surface.

Again, this is one of the best mousing surfaces I've used!

Hope it sells well for you guys!

 

[Slickone]

Originally posted by: Johnbear007

Originally posted by: sobrien42

Originally posted by: Slickone
Couldn't you have one that's already rubber backed, to keep from having to stick it to something?

We're working on that but I need to source the right mousepad. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Looking for thinner pad with hard coat (non-fabric) & low cost. Cost is the main problem--we are trying to keep this product priced at attractive levels. If we start adding a mousepad and labor to laminate, cost climbs.

We are continuously reviewing this line for updates. I do not expect the mounted C4 to be available any time soon.

Sher

Personally I don't think a mounted version is worth the effort, unless there is alot of demand for it. I personally don't have a problem finding something hard to stick it to.

If you really want to offer one already prepped, then why limit your self to mouse pads as a surface? It doesnt really need to be stuck to a mouse pad. Just find some kind of cheap/firm plastic?

I didn't say mouse pad. Just stuck to something, anything (that won't move) .

 

[deepinya]

Originally posted by: Maddscientist

With slick feet and slick mousing surface, isn't that too slick to be accurate? Seems to me with no friction, I would be all over the place

That is exactly what I thought before I got my sample. Less friction = less fatigue and it is perfectly accurate and makes moving your mouse around feel like its a hovercraft......3 hours of use and you'll never go back trust me.

I think his point is if its TOO slick then how can you keep your crosshair steady? You need some resistance if you ask me.

edit: Is this surface completely smooth or textured?

 

[GtPrOjEcTX]

textured

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: deepinya

Originally posted by: Maddscientist

With slick feet and slick mousing surface, isn't that too slick to be accurate? Seems to me with no friction, I would be all over the place

That is exactly what I thought before I got my sample. Less friction = less fatigue and it is perfectly accurate and makes moving your mouse around feel like its a hovercraft......3 hours of use and you'll never go back trust me.

I think his point is if its TOO slick then how can you keep your crosshair steady? You need some resistance if you ask me.

edit: Is this surface completely smooth or textured?

its textured. its slick, probably the slickest out there, but it has texture so its not so slick that friction free. its not an air hockey puck experience your cursors not moving anywhere u don't want it.

 

[Maddscientist]

Originally posted by: deepinya

Originally posted by: Maddscientist

With slick feet and slick mousing surface, isn't that too slick to be accurate? Seems to me with no friction, I would be all over the place

That is exactly what I thought before I got my sample. Less friction = less fatigue and it is perfectly accurate and makes moving your mouse around feel like its a hovercraft......3 hours of use and you'll never go back trust me.

I think his point is if its TOO slick then how can you keep your crosshair steady? You need some resistance if you ask me.

edit: Is this surface completely smooth or textured?

It is a texured surface as notes above.....But its a very mild texture its almost completly smooth. Its honestly a little hard to describe something like this but let me give it one last try. 95% of the time when we move our mouse we meet a large amount of friction but after many months\years of moving aganst this friction we become accustomed to it. Take my own thoughs for expample when I was waiting for my sample to arrive I honestly didnt expect much but it was free and therfor I did not care if it worked or not.

When I recieved my BETA sample 6x8 or so sheet of c4 I abhered it to my mousepad not expecting much placed the scates on and started playing some counterstrike. After about 3 hours Of CS I started to notice a diffrence when 3 of my online cs buddies I have known for 3 Years asked me if I was cheating? If that is not a complement as to how much c4 increased my aim I honestly dont know what is. The next day was my day off and I decided that for the good of the world I would Playtest C4 for 6-8 hours. I mean somebody had to do it right? Anyways again started up cs played for a few hours and still proceded to get far more headshots than I have ever gotten before. Fired Up max payne 2 and played a few rounds of Dead Man walking....Got a few 30 minute time scores. Fired up Temple Of Elemental Evil that is known for its horrible laggy mouse cursor and the horrible skipping and slow mouse speeds hardly effected me since my mouse movement was not taking much effort on my part.

Honestly the only problem I ran into with C4 was its becoming unstuck other than that I have never used a better gaming surface!

Cheers

 

[dabears]

Hey, what do you guys think of the tape available. I noticed the first roll is 18 yds and the second is only 5yds for the same price. Does it make any difference? I'm definetly getting the pad, and some form of feet, but what is the consensus choice on the feet. Best bang for the buck? The 3/4" discs or a roll of tape? If the tape, what do you think the PTFE 15-3s or the mouse tape? What's the difference?

Tia,
dabears

 

[Maddscientist]

Not sure they supplied some discs for us in the beta tests but not sure what ones they where mabye sobrien42 can shed some light on the diffrences?

 

[Johnbear007]

Originally posted by: deepinya

Originally posted by: Maddscientist

With slick feet and slick mousing surface, isn't that too slick to be accurate? Seems to me with no friction, I would be all over the place

That is exactly what I thought before I got my sample. Less friction = less fatigue and it is perfectly accurate and makes moving your mouse around feel like its a hovercraft......3 hours of use and you'll never go back trust me.

I think his point is if its TOO slick then how can you keep your crosshair steady? You need some resistance if you ask me.

edit: Is this surface completely smooth or textured?

Why would we ask you? The Beta testers have used, you haven't.

 

[Johnbear007]

Originally posted by: dabears
Hey, what do you guys think of the tape available. I noticed the first roll is 18 yds and the second is only 5yds for the same price. Does it make any difference? I'm definetly getting the pad, and some form of feet, but what is the consensus choice on the feet. Best bang for the buck? The 3/4" discs or a roll of tape? If the tape, what do you think the PTFE 15-3s or the mouse tape? What's the difference?

Tia,
dabears

I would go with tape, because you can cut it to the size you need it.

 

[sobrien42]

Originally posted by: weepul
is there any pictures of these? i know it's not going to help much, but i'd still like to see it before purchasing.

//krunk (^_^x)

Photos are now on the site. Sher

 

[DesiRich]

What about with optical mice?

Some mousing surfaces have problems working well with mousing surfaces because of the reflectivity and low contrast of the surface... Any feedback?

I have a Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3 right now.

 

[Maddscientist]

Originally posted by: DesiRich
What about with optical mice?

Some mousing surfaces have problems working well with mousing surfaces because of the reflectivity and low contrast of the surface... Any feedback?

I have a Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3 right now.

That is the exact same mouse I have... and you would know that if you read the links I placed above This pad is meant for optical mice man......Read between the lines eh?

 

[Cullinaire]

Just got my 18yd PTFE tape from CS Hyde. I've never used teflon tape with my mouse before, but now I know what I've been missing!! The nice thing about this tape over scotch tape is that the adhesive doesn't seem to be the type to leave gunk all over the mouse feet if you take it off later, but I'm just guessing on that. (It is the silicone adhesive version)
I can only imagine how much better it would be with the C4.

 

[sobrien42]

What's a good TRIAL size and shape for the reluctant buyer? A Sample Pack Concept. Must be low cost andf include Teflon Discs. Ideas, anyone?
Sher

 

[Maddscientist]

6x6 or 7x7 I would not go any smaller than 5x5.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Maddscientist

Originally posted by: DesiRich
What about with optical mice?

Some mousing surfaces have problems working well with mousing surfaces because of the reflectivity and low contrast of the surface... Any feedback?

I have a Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3 right now.

That is the exact same mouse I have... and you would know that if you read the links I placed above This pad is meant for optical mice man......Read between the lines eh?

most of us that have tested it use optical mice u know

 

[GtPrOjEcTX]

got mine today, bump

 

[Johnbear007]

Got mine, it works great with my new boomslang 2100. Just ordered some mouse tape to go along with it

 

[sobrien42]

Originally posted by: bfunny27
Yeah I saw these posts earlier for beta testing. With all of your great reviews looks like I'm going to be buying some =)
Thanks for the heads up that it is now available

Just an FYI--Yesterday & today, the C4/MOuse Tape site was down.....mostly because I'm a nimrod when it comes to HTML. Lots of outbursts later and now it's back up. Sorry to cause such confusiion. Sher