If the left had an equivalent to the stupidity and the nutterness of the right, those people would be it.
Gub'mint libruuls gub'mint limousine libruls gub'mint gub'mint.
Vincent Foster, DeathPanels, Benghazi.
Gub'mint.
Perfect.
I don't have to vaccinate AND i get them out of government indoctrination? Say it aint so!
I honestly like that as it's like daddy state is giving people permission (as if they needed it anyways) to truly educate their children (and not school them).
However what about those who don't have the ability to do that due to work or other considerations? Should they stop paying the taxes that support those schools that their child is no longer allowed to attend?
If the left had an equivalent to the stupidity and the nutterness of the right, those people would be it.
I have no kids and I pay taxes for other people kids.
Piss off.
So this is something you want to pay? Ok thats your choice. How about them? Do they get a choice?
Who's this guy science?
You on the other hand think you know better and are willing to torture those who do not comply with your way of life.
Perfect.
I don't have to vaccinate AND i get them out of government indoctrination? Say it aint so!
I honestly like that as it's like daddy state is giving people permission (as if they needed it anyways) to truly educate their children (and not school them).
However what about those who don't have the ability to do that due to work or other considerations? Should they stop paying the taxes that support those schools that their child is no longer allowed to attend?
Anything to back this assertion up? Because the text of law seems to indicate otherwise:Wow just learned that kids with so called learning disabilities such as ADHD are EXEMPT from the new vaccine law. Ridiculous.
120370.
(a) If the parent or guardian files with the governing authority a written statement by a licensed physician to the effect that the physical condition of the child is such, or medical circumstances relating to the child are such, that immunization is not considered safe, indicating the specific nature and probable duration of the medical condition or circumstances, including, but not limited to, family medical history, for which the physician does not recommend immunization, that child shall be exempt from the requirements of Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 120325, but excluding Section 120380) and Sections 120400, 120405, 120410, and 120415 to the extent indicated by the physicians statement.
(b) If there is good cause to believe that a child has been exposed to a disease listed in subdivision (b) of Section 120335 and his or her documentary proof of immunization status does not show proof of immunization against that disease, that child may be temporarily excluded from the school or institution until the local health officer is satisfied that the child is no longer at risk of developing or transmitting the disease.
Anything to back this assertion up? Because the text of law seems to indicate otherwise:
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160SB277
I can't think of anyone classifying ADHD as a physical ailment which would make vaccination unsafe.
You mean taxes?
No I'd rather not for something I do not use, but it's a part of society.
Is it? Does the State have the "Right" to make you pay for what you do not use? How'd this "Right" come into being? You or I cannot take from our neighbor but it's somehow okay when it's a mass of people clamoring for your money.
BTW, Society is not a synonym for government.
#1 you are a raging moron.
#2 speaking of torture, you whine over ostracizing the paranoid raging morons, but don't even think about the reemergence of diseases, due to the acts of raging morons, which have sickened and harmed children.
So, #3, you are a piece of garbage as well. You expect society to sit back and let buffoons such as yourself decide how it should function? Or, more like not function. Why? Because no one (and you mean NO ONE) tells you what to do?
Hey, that's great. Really, I am proud you figured out how to function with no reliance on other human beings. Fantastic. Now, head off into the woods and leave us be. Link up with like "minded" folks and start your own society. It would far easier to start your own, than change the minds of the rest of the planet.
You want to be part of modern society, but YOUR version of modern society - you do realize that, right? So, you are pretty much forcing and demanding an authoritarian existence; your own.
The social contract gives the government the authority. If you don't like it, you're free to leave.
Can I see this "social contract"? In what other business is there a grandfathered "social contract"? That's right, the only time this is brought up is when it deals with government. All contracts have terms which are agreed to. If that contract is broken then it is/can be annulled. That means there must be a document (which we know as the Constitution) that tells us what the terms are and those who have agreed to it. Now, I am no historian by any means but I'm pretty sure my signature wasn't on the Constitution. Therefore I have not agreed to its terms and are not subject to its contract.
I am also free to stay, which I intend to do.
I guess they better vaccinate their brood then. Or give them up for adoption, since they obviously don't love their children and want them to suffer.
I recommend you pick up a copy of the Social Contract by Rousseau. It's not necessary for every individual to "sign".
Can you prove with 100% certainty that not vaccinating John's son will cause suffering? We already know the vaccine can and does cause harm to some children so let's not pretend that vaccines are without blemishes.
The risk of complications from acute measles infection include:
~1:10 risk of gastroenteritis and dehydration
1:10 risk of acute otitis media
~1:20 risk of bacterial pneumonia
1:1000 risk of encephalitis
1:1000 risk of ADEM
8:100,000-1,000,000 risk of SSPE, an irreversible neurological disease that results in death.
And to this day, measles is still one of the leading causes of death by an infectious disease.
So what are these "sufferings" causes by the vaccine based on your internet degree in infectious diseases? And what is the incidence rate of those complication?
(Here's a hint, the complication rate pales in comparison to the complications of acute measles infection...)
First, understand that I am in no way a match for your intelligence. It's your fish tank, I'm just swimming in it.
Are you trying to say that no one experiences side effects from these vaccines?
It seems that you've replaced people with percentages and that in turn has removed your ability to see clearly. Replacing people with numbers can be vary dangerous IMO. While it may help you weigh a decision, it does not factor in the Rights of the individual. Therefore these ratio's should be given to the prospective parent/vaccine recipient for their consideration. It is their life after all.
So unless you are going to claim that vaccines have no side effects then there's an effective stalemate. Not taking a vaccine puts you at risk disease/infection and taking one can also lead to bad reactions/complications. Now if you are of the many who claim the "right" to force others to take these vaccines, would you also take the responsibility of those complications that do arise?
What a weak attempt to dance around the issue. Nobody has ever said vaccines do not come with risk. However, the benefits of preventing an infection GREATLY outweigh the risks of vaccination.. Nothing in medicine comes without any kind of risk. This risk/benefit ratio is constantly weighed, and several decades worth of safety and enhanced health from vaccination has placed no doubt that vaccination is one of the greatest advances in human health.
And what the data has told us is that the risks from vaccination are rare, and are nowhere near the risk of infection from pathogens like measles. This is exactly why I asked you to produce what are the risks of measles vaccination, and how do those risks compare to the complications of the infection. Your silence speaks exactly why your vague argument holds no water, because it reflects the risk/benefit ratio of vaccination. The complications are rare, and the US government has already set-up "the responsibility of those complications that arise." I suggest you read about the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act.
Don't be too hard on NSoM. He has perfected the delusion of not being one of us.