I am not arguing. I am suggesting that many things become possible now that consent is no longer required to apply medical treatments to citizens.
I am not arguing. I am suggesting that many things become possible now that consent is no longer required to apply medical treatments to citizens.Arguing against vaccinations is not arguing against Control. It's arguing against Mathematics.
I am not arguing. I am suggesting that many things become possible now that consent is no longer required to apply medical treatments to citizens.
An I interesting comparison, since many citizens lose property via eminent domain during infrastructure improvements. Our own bodies, in a manner of speaking, become the property of the government to do with as it pleases in name of the greater good.Many things have always been possible. Vaccines have become as important as Roads and other infrastructure that gives us the lifestyle we take for granted.
Historically, states have a large leeway with public health measures, from quarantines to mandatory vaccination.I am not arguing. I am suggesting that many things become possible now that consent is no longer required to apply medical treatments to citizens.
Thanks, I confess that I was unaware of that exemption. I am no longer Californian, though I might have schooled myself a bit better before jumping in.Historically, states have a large leeway with public health measures, from quarantines to mandatory vaccination.
And consent is still required in the cases in California. If parents don't want to vaccinate, they can homeschool their children.
There aren't measles parties, that's an urban legend.
see, most of us gave up on your ever engaging constructive conversation long ago; which is why you are only talking to one or two people by now.
Not likely.
You just don't get it.
Arguing against FORCED vaccinations is not arguing against Control. It's arguing against Mathematics.
Yep and I think as much of those who refuse to recognize the Rights of the individual. As long as you have a lack of respect for human Rights, we'll never see eye to eye. And just as well too.
You missed the word FORCED. Convenient for your crowd.
Yep and I think as much of those who refuse to recognize the Rights of the individual. As long as you have a lack of respect for human Rights, we'll never see eye to eye. And just as well too.
Measles led to death of Clallam Co. woman; first in US in a dozen years
Tragic outcome for immunocompromised patient shows need for community protection
OLYMPIA ¾ The death of a Clallam County woman this spring was due to an undetected measles infection that was discovered at autopsy.
The woman was most likely exposed to measles at a local medical facility during a recent outbreak in Clallam County. She was there at the same time as a person who later developed a rash and was contagious for measles. The woman had several other health conditions and was on medications that contributed to a suppressed immune system. She didnt have some of the common symptoms of measles such as a rash, so the infection wasnt discovered until after her death. The cause of death was pneumonia due to measles.
This tragic situation illustrates the importance of immunizing as many people as possible to provide a high level of community protection against measles. People with compromised immune systems often cannot be vaccinated against measles. Even when vaccinated, they may not have a good immune response when exposed to disease; they may be especially vulnerable to disease outbreaks. Public health officials recommend that everyone who is eligible for the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine get vaccinated so they can help protect themselves, their families, and the vulnerable people in their community.
Measles is highly contagious even before the rash starts, and is easily spread when an infected person breathes, coughs, or sneezes. If you're not protected, you can get measles just by walking into a room where someone with the disease has been in the past couple of hours.
Children should be vaccinated with two doses of MMR vaccine, with the first dose between 12 and 15 months and the second at four-to-six years. Adults born after 1956 should have at least one measles vaccination; some people need two. The state Department of Health immunization program has online information about measles and measles vaccine.
The measles diagnosis for the Clallam County woman brings the states case count to 11, and is the sixth in Clallam County for the year. The last active case of measles in Washington this year was reported in late April. Within about three weeks of exposure to someone with measles, its possible to develop the disease. Since more than three weeks has already passed since the last active measles case, no one who had contact with one of the known cases is any longer at risk for developing measles from those exposures.
The last confirmed measles death in the United States was reported in 2003. More information about measles nationwide is available on the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) website.
Yes, not vaccinating can lead to deaths of others. Your lame logic lacks the respect for others who cannot receive a vaccine against a preventable disease that can lead to death.
So following that line of thinking not buying a top of the line BMW with every imaginable safety feature could lead to the deaths of others. In fact I bet more lives would be saved if all the hoopties on the road were replaced with $60,000+ cars. Lets make it a law that no one has a choice and has to purchase a new vehicle!
You people get so worked up and gung ho about removing freedom of choice in this country over a few hyped up edge case scenarios. Like the post just above. Oh no first measles death in over 12 years. Call out the national guard!
So following that line of thinking not buying a top of the line BMW with every imaginable safety feature could lead to the deaths of others. In fact I bet more lives would be saved if all the hoopties on the road were replaced with $60,000+ cars. Lets make it a law that no one has a choice and has to purchase a new vehicle!
You people get so worked up and gung ho about removing freedom of choice in this country over a few hyped up edge case scenarios. Like the post just above. Oh no first measles death in over 12 years. Call out the national guard!
You wish to go back to the 50s?
No, but somehow we got to only 1 immunocompromised individual dying from measles over the course of 12 years without giving up rights over our families body's. Now you idiots want to pass a bunch of laws to help some wackjob politicians better stuff the pockets of pharma while wasting the resources of health departments and eliminating personal rights. Because SCIENCE right? Or did the experts Penn and Teller learn you up? You have all the answers and think a blanket all vaccines all the time policy is smart? Because the CDC is the once magic snowflake part of the government that's not incompetent or totally bought out by lobbyists?
Exemption doesn't even mean a 100% non vaxed individual. You could have 37 shots, and get the exemption because you decided to pass on one and they are still going to count that in their OMG coming to kill our herd numbers.
Sorry I wasted your time with some facts. I look forward to the return of iron lungs and kids dying from measles again and with your help we can return to those golden times. Keep up the good work.
This doesn't really solve the problem though, since private gatherings (little league, birthday parties, etc.) will still expose the children to children who's parents wear tinfoil hats.
Why don't you look up the historical data for measles deaths (facts) and overlay it with when the vaccine went into widespread use. You'll see mortality was down to a clinically insignificant level before the vaccine in 1963. But by all means continue to practice terrible risk assessment and keep banging the drum for your sensationalist news reporting and pharmaceutical masters.
The real problem is that these children will be exposed to people like you, who are so stupid that they dont even understand that there is no frickin point in being vaccinated if a vaccinated child is still at frickin risk when in contact with an unvaccinated child. Where is the vaccine to cure your stupidity? You people literally have no goddam brain. All you do is chirp key phrases like "tin foil hat" with no thought at all beyond that.
Why don't you look up the historical data for measles deaths (facts) and overlay it with when the vaccine went into widespread use. You'll see mortality was down to a clinically insignificant level before the vaccine in 1963. But by all means continue to practice terrible risk assessment and keep banging the drum for your sensationalist news reporting and pharmaceutical masters.