CA Banning 'Personal Belief' Exemptions for Vaccinations

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Strk

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Why don't you look up the historical data for measles deaths (facts) and overlay it with when the vaccine went into widespread use. You'll see mortality was down to a clinically insignificant level before the vaccine in 1963. But by all means continue to practice terrible risk assessment and keep banging the drum for your sensationalist news reporting and pharmaceutical masters.

The concern is morbidity and mortality. A lot of these are about serious complications and not just the deaths, which I don't know how you can dismiss. These are easily preventable complications and deaths.

And I don't think you understand what risk assessment actually means. All of these have high chances of complications. Besides the risk of death, how about we just go financially.

Which one of these costs more than a hospital visit?
 

Gunbuster

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All I'm saying is we already have extremely low rates of infection and a nationwide vaccination rate of ~99% for children. Do we need to blow up the news and sponsor new laws that infringe parents rights to choose for that last 1%. It's just wasting money, hell teaching people how to get their shit actually in the toilet and not all over the rest of a public bathroom would be a better spend of our time and resources to reduce the spread of communicable diseases.
 
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All I'm saying is we already have extremely low rates of infection and a nationwide vaccination rate of ~99% for children. Do we need to blow up the news and sponsor new laws that infringe parents rights to choose for that last 1%. It's just wasting money, hell teaching people how to get their shit actually in the toilet and not all over the rest of a public bathroom would be a better spend of our time and resources to reduce the spread of communicable diseases.

The inability to choose it what keeps it at such a low rate.
 
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All I'm saying is we already have extremely low rates of infection and a nationwide vaccination rate of ~99% for children. Do we need to blow up the news and sponsor new laws that infringe parents rights to choose for that last 1%. It's just wasting money, hell teaching people how to get their shit actually in the toilet and not all over the rest of a public bathroom would be a better spend of our time and resources to reduce the spread of communicable diseases.

It's not really ~99% for children nationwide. It's more like low-mid 90s for some vaccines and < 90% for others. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/imz-managers/coverage/nis/child/figures/2014-map.html

And in some communities, the coverage rate for kindergartners is far below that: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/02/06/us/california-measles-vaccines-map.html
 

IronWing

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It's not really ~99% for children nationwide. It's more like low-mid 90s for some vaccines and < 90% for others. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/imz-managers/coverage/nis/child/figures/2014-map.html

And in some communities, the coverage rate for kindergartners is far below that: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/02/06/us/california-measles-vaccines-map.html

I can see why California is dumping the personal belief exemption. The rates at some schools are ridiculous.
 
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Why don't you look up the historical data for measles deaths (facts) and overlay it with when the vaccine went into widespread use. You'll see mortality was down to a clinically insignificant level before the vaccine in 1963. But by all means continue to practice terrible risk assessment and keep banging the drum for your sensationalist news reporting and pharmaceutical masters.

You a friend of Jenny?
 
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abj13

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All I'm saying is we already have extremely low rates of infection and a nationwide vaccination rate of ~99% for children. Do we need to blow up the news and sponsor new laws that infringe parents rights to choose for that last 1%. It's just wasting money, hell teaching people how to get their shit actually in the toilet and not all over the rest of a public bathroom would be a better spend of our time and resources to reduce the spread of communicable diseases.

Even more nonsense. Before you post again, I suggest you actually look up data before making up numbers and claiming they are correct. Vaccination rates are nowhere near "99%" in the US or whatever made up number you're willing to dump in your post. Just look what the stupidity did after liars like Wakefield did his hit job on measles vaccination, for example in the UK:


1999 hits, vaccination drops because of falsified research, measles cases jump.

After the new California law, parents have more than the right to choose to not to vaccinate their kids. Their choice, but they can't have their children in public school, either they are home schooled or have "independent study." Nobody is forcing them to vaccinate.
 

JEDIYoda

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Why don't you look up the historical data for measles deaths (facts) and overlay it with when the vaccine went into widespread use. You'll see mortality was down to a clinically insignificant level before the vaccine in 1963. But by all means continue to practice terrible risk assessment and keep banging the drum for your sensationalist news reporting and pharmaceutical masters.
why don`t you post some verifiable links instead of just your diatribe??
 
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