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chucky2

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I think it's better to come up with solutions that address the issues. Complaining about the solutions while providing none yourself doesn't solve problems.

But how are you going to explain to significant portions of your base that they're animals that need to stop killing/shooting each other, and still retain their vote levels? Wouldn't instead appearing to do something, anything, to appease other irrational portions of your voting base, that you actually didn't completely ignore their insanity and really are worthy of a vote, as was done here, be a far better option?
 

BUnit1701

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My solutions? Exactly what solutions have I provided?


You righties and your boogeymen!

My apologies, apparently you do not support Democrat positions on gun control such as expanded background checks, magazine and 'assault weapon' bans, and microstamping, which are the solutions that the 'anti-gun folks' are providing, none of which do anything to address the 'problem' of gun violence.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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But how are you going to explain to significant portions of your base that they're animals that need to stop killing/shooting each other, and still retain their vote levels? Wouldn't instead appearing to do something, anything, to appease other irrational portions of your voting base, that you actually didn't completely ignore their insanity and really are worthy of a vote, as was done here, be a far better option?


Are you projecting or is asking for solutions from those of your "ilk" getting too real for you and too close to penetrating the thick ass bubble you live in?


That's exactly the response I expected.
 

TerryMathews

Lifer
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Lol! Speaking of infantile! "I'm not going to provide solutions for X unless you provide solutions to Y!".

How old are you?

Gotta love it, ignore my point and attack instead. Straight out of the Democratic handbook.

Exactly what % of unsolved crime would benefit from this technology?

And a more serious note, your cognitive dissonance is staggering. You would be literally frothing at the mouth if the Republicans proposed a system like this that effectively banned abortions until some future technology became available.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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My apologies, apparently you do not support Democrat positions on gun control such as expanded background checks, magazine and 'assault weapon' bans, and microstamping, which are the solutions that the 'anti-gun folks' are providing, none of which do anything to address the 'problem' of gun violence.

You have no fucking clue what I support but you sure as shit want to believe you do so that you can maintain your boogeyman!

Are there actually any intelligent pro gun people on this forum, or is intelligence looked down upon?
 

ivwshane

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Gotta love it, ignore my point and attack instead. Straight out of the Democratic handbook.

Exactly what % of unsolved crime would benefit from this technology?

And a more serious note, your cognitive dissonance is staggering. You would be literally frothing at the mouth if the Republicans proposed a system like this that effectively banned abortions until some future technology became available.

Stick to shooting guns because, clearly, reading comprehension just ain't your thing
 
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You have no fucking clue what I support but you sure as shit want to believe you do so that you can maintain your boogeyman!

Are there actually any intelligent pro gun people on this forum, or is intelligence looked down upon?

We have clearly seen gun control nuts have no idea what they're talking about and just want to take away guns. The pro gun people are far more intelligent than you.

Also love how you resort to insults.
 

chucky2

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Are you projecting or is asking for solutions from those of your "ilk" getting too real for you and too close to penetrating the thick ass bubble you live in?

Really I'm just accurately describing large majorities of the anti-gun crowd, which I have a sneaking suspicion you're a part of. These aren't solutions, they're "solutions". That is, they really solve nothing, they're feel good (to those it appeals to) to make them feel good. And why was it passed to make them feel good? To appear to be doing something. Why appear to be doing something for the gun control crowd? Because frustrated people either don't vote for you, or, just don't show up to vote. Is there any other rational way that stands up to Reality to look at this?

That's exactly the response I expected.

Well since it was accurate, that's good, you should have expected it.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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Really I'm just accurately describing large majorities of the anti-gun crowd, which I have a sneaking suspicion you're a part of. These aren't solutions, they're "solutions". That is, they really solve nothing, they're feel good (to those it appeals to) to make them feel good. And why was it passed to make them feel good? To appear to be doing something. Why appear to be doing something for the gun control crowd? Because frustrated people either don't vote for you, or, just don't show up to vote. Is there any other rational way that stands up to Reality to look at this?



Well since it was accurate, that's good, you should have expected it.

I am the boogeyman!! Fear me!!
 

TerryMathews

Lifer
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Lap dog? Lol!

Do you know what hypocrisy is? See your post for the answer. Or see anyone of incorruptibles post, which looks just like yours

Let me know when you want to have a serious, adult conversation about this. We need to start with whether this actually solves a problem. What % of unsolved crimes will this technology assist in solving?

I personally believe that number to be statistically insignificant.
 

ivwshane

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Let me know when you want to have a serious, adult conversation about this. We need to start with whether this actually solves a problem. What % of unsolved crimes will this technology assist in solving?

I personally believe that number to be statistically insignificant.

Just because you deem something to be insignificant doesn't mean it's not a problem. And if it's such a small problem then I'd imagine the solution for it would be easy. So what's your solution? Pretending what others believe to be a problem doesn't exist (despite you admitting that it does exist, just not significantly) doesn't solve anything.

I don't have a solution, which is why I don't complain about them when people come up with their own. If you are smarter or a bigger expert than the "gun grabbers" then I'd imagine you'd have real solutions, so what are they?
 

BUnit1701

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You have no fucking clue what I support but you sure as shit want to believe you do so that you can maintain your boogeyman!

Are there actually any intelligent pro gun people on this forum, or is intelligence looked down upon?

Im sorry, are you insinuating that the policies I listed are not currently being pushed by anti-gun politicians? If so, what policies are they advocating?
 

TerryMathews

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Pretending what others believe to be a problem doesn't exist (despite you admitting that it does exist, just not significantly) doesn't solve anything.

So this means you'll be voicing your support of voter ID any time now, right? I mean, it fits every criteria you just laid out.

The bottom line is that gun crime is a symptom of a larger problem: systemic poverty and the degradation of morals.

A gun, at its most basic, is a force equalization tool. You dont have to be strong to defend yourself with a gun. If she's a good shot, granny could take down Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Trying to solve "gun crime" preconceives your solution based on the problem you stated and will just drive criminals to other weapons as it did in England.

But let's look at this specific idea, micro stamping casings. There is no way it would stand up by itself in court, as was pointed out all you need is to collect and plant a casing.

It would make far more sense to magnetically encode something into the slug, but again technology that doesn't exist but at least there you are tying the identifying information with the correct piece, the one that kills or maims.

How do you intend to differentiate casings from real bullets vs blanks? The casing is identical.
 

ivwshane

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Im sorry, are you insinuating that the policies I listed are not currently being pushed by anti-gun politicians? If so, what policies are they advocating?

Holy shit you are dumb! What does any of that have to do with me?
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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So this means you'll be voicing your support of voter ID any time now, right? I mean, it fits every criteria you just laid out.

The bottom line is that gun crime is a symptom of a larger problem: systemic poverty and the degradation of morals.

A gun, at its most basic, is a force equalization tool. You dont have to be strong to defend yourself with a gun. If she's a good shot, granny could take down Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Trying to solve "gun crime" preconceives your solution based on the problem you stated and will just drive criminals to other weapons as it did in England.

But let's look at this specific idea, micro stamping casings. There is no way it would stand up by itself in court, as was pointed out all you need is to collect and plant a casing.

It would make far more sense to magnetically encode something into the slug, but again technology that doesn't exist but at least there you are tying the identifying information with the correct piece, the one that kills or maims.

How do you intend to differentiate casings from real bullets vs blanks? The casing is identical.

Who said I was against voter ID laws? Make the ID's free as well as making any required supporting documents free to obtain and you won't hear any objections from me. Of course it doesn't address real voter fraud, of which the majority comes from absentee ballots...so.


As far as the rest of your post, would driving criminals to use other weapons be a bad thing? I'd imaging the survivability rate would be higher with non gun type weapons.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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Talking about yourself? These gun control laws are just idiotic and don't work.

Well I certainly wasn't talking to your dumbass but I can see why anytime someone calls someone stupid you automatically assume it's about you.


Another great post by you to add to your high post count though!

(That was sarcasm btw)
 
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Well I certainly wasn't talking to your dumbass but I can see why anytime someone calls someone stupid you automatically assume it's about you.


Another great post by you to add to your high post count though!

(That was sarcasm btw)

Making assumptions again? I never assumed you moron, I was just calling you out for your stupidity on gun control.
 
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