Cable Modems Hacked

guyver01

Lifer
Sep 25, 2000
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hacking it will last about 2 minutes, after they detect the change, and send the cops for theft of service.

 

Psorak

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Feb 4, 2004
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Originally posted by: guyver01
hacking it will last about 2 minutes, after they detect the change, and send the cops for theft of service.

Sounds about right. :beer:
 

thrashev

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Jan 3, 2003
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some friends of mine did it two years ago

big fbi and local cop raid of all who did it, luckily my friends were out of town and nothing happened, they just can't get cable service again from buckeye cable
 

Slikkster

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Apr 29, 2000
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The uncapping is just part of the issue. Hackers can also (see article) program these modems to see unencrypted traffic destined for other peoples' modems on your network node. So, unless the ISP can/does detect ANY changes to the modem's config, unsuspecting users can have their network traffic captured. Apparently, not many cable ISP's are using encryption as they should.
 

MustISO

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Routing the traffic is much cooler than speeding things up or stealing service. People would be downloading for you. You'd just have to sort through it all and keep the good stuff.
 

WobbleWobble

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Jun 29, 2001
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Hey... I have that modem!

But ISPs know you're doing it and I'd really hate to be cut off from their service or run into legal problems.
 

arcas

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Apr 10, 2001
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Slikkster is right. The issue here isn't about uncapping...that's been possible for years due to the way the caps are implemented. The issue here is the ability to modify the modem's firmware so that it can sniff all traffic on the network. It is especially troubling that major cable ISPs may not be turning on encryption at the modems. This is really the fault of DOCSIS though. The standard should have mandated encrypted communications.

In my opinion, the sniffing vulnerability is a marketing angle that the DSL providers haven't exploited.

 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: thrashev
some friends of mine did it two years ago

big fbi and local cop raid of all who did it, luckily my friends were out of town and nothing happened, they just can't get cable service again from buckeye cable

I don't get this...fbi and cops raided your friends but since they weren't home they were 'skipped'???

 

minendo

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Aug 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: thrashev
some friends of mine did it two years ago

big fbi and local cop raid of all who did it, luckily my friends were out of town and nothing happened, they just can't get cable service again from buckeye cable

I don't get this...fbi and cops raided your friends but since they weren't home they were 'skipped'???
Yeah, I call BS.

 

Psorak

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Feb 4, 2004
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: thrashev
some friends of mine did it two years ago

big fbi and local cop raid of all who did it, luckily my friends were out of town and nothing happened, they just can't get cable service again from buckeye cable

I don't get this...fbi and cops raided your friends but since they weren't home they were 'skipped'???

Yea, I smell BS as well. :beer:
 

ThaGrandCow

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Dec 27, 2001
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: thrashev
some friends of mine did it two years ago

big fbi and local cop raid of all who did it, luckily my friends were out of town and nothing happened, they just can't get cable service again from buckeye cable

I don't get this...fbi and cops raided your friends but since they weren't home they were 'skipped'???

 

PanzerIV

Diamond Member
Dec 19, 2002
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: thrashev
some friends of mine did it two years ago

big fbi and local cop raid of all who did it, luckily my friends were out of town and nothing happened, they just can't get cable service again from buckeye cable

I don't get this...fbi and cops raided your friends but since they weren't home they were 'skipped'???

LOL. Same thing I was thinking when I read that. If true, isn't that law enforcement at its finest?
 

TheToOTaLL

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Oct 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: Psorak
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: thrashev
some friends of mine did it two years ago

big fbi and local cop raid of all who did it, luckily my friends were out of town and nothing happened, they just can't get cable service again from buckeye cable

I don't get this...fbi and cops raided your friends but since they weren't home they were 'skipped'???

Yea, I smell BS as well. :beer:

I raise your BS three, and call shenenigans.
 

Hammer

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: TheToOTaLL
Originally posted by: Psorak
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: thrashev
some friends of mine did it two years ago

big fbi and local cop raid of all who did it, luckily my friends were out of town and nothing happened, they just can't get cable service again from buckeye cable

I don't get this...fbi and cops raided your friends but since they weren't home they were 'skipped'???

Yea, I smell BS as well. :beer:

I raise your BS three, and call shenenigans.

i call.

 

PowerMacG5

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Apr 14, 2002
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Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: TheToOTaLL
Originally posted by: Psorak
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: thrashev
some friends of mine did it two years ago

big fbi and local cop raid of all who did it, luckily my friends were out of town and nothing happened, they just can't get cable service again from buckeye cable

I don't get this...fbi and cops raided your friends but since they weren't home they were 'skipped'???

Yea, I smell BS as well. :beer:

I raise your BS three, and call shenenigans.

i call.

I raise you a n00b.
 

Tipe2

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Feb 4, 2004
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SecurityFocus asked four U.S. cable modem service providers if they protected their customers with the encryption option. Comcast, Adelphia, and CableVision's Optimum Online declined comment; a spokesman for Time Warner's Road Runner service didn't return repeated phone calls on the question. Comcast's terms of service, however, acknowledges a risk of eavesdropping by "other subscribers," and Optimum Online's bluntly admits the company doesn't utilize encryption: "All Subscriber's ethernet traffic ... will be reflected by the cable Modem in an unencrypted form onto the cable network and be subject to eavesdropping."


Well that's just wonderful.

Optimum Online's Terms Of Service
 

kranky

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Oct 9, 1999
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Wow, that's interesting. I've been researching DSL vs. cable, and was leaning toward cable. But this got me seriously thinking about going with DSL even though it's slower.

Having some prior experience in the world of hacking, I have no doubt that most script kiddies with the right hardware are using this program to sniff packets. I could care less about people using it to uncap their modems, but I'd like to know that people aren't reading my business emails.
 

ndee

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: kranky
Wow, that's interesting. I've been researching DSL vs. cable, and was leaning toward cable. But this got me seriously thinking about going with DSL even though it's slower.

Having some prior experience in the world of hacking, I have no doubt that most script kiddies with the right hardware are using this program to sniff packets. I could care less about people using it to uncap their modems, but I'd like to know that people aren't reading my business emails.

That's why you use PGP for business emails...
 
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