CAD People - Please HELP!!!!!

[bob4432]

my wife is working on a multi-million dollar project and needs some 3d renders done. she has asked the architect and also the people that are doing the internal design but for some reason nobody has come up with them. $$$ (within reason) is not a problem with this project so she can't figure out what the problem is as she asked them both 10days ago for something.

she needs to know who to yell at - the architect or the interior people? she needs renders for both so i am assuming both people need to be yelled at - the architect for the elevation renders and the interior people for the interior renders. near photo quality renders would be needed, but i really can't see how that is problem with todays software and hardware power. size of the output would need to be ~3'x4' and mounted on a backboard.

am i oversimplifying this? is creating these renders harder and would require more than 10days of work?

what files are needed to do these renders? the plans for the entire building are available, inlcuding the old building and this add-on.

since $$$ is not really an issue can we take the files to anybody to render them?

also, since $$$ is not really an issue, how hard is rendering and what programs are used? is this something that you need a degree in to do? could i buy the software and do the renders on my machine here at home and then take them to alphagraphix and have them printed out and mounted?

please help as she needs this done for an upcoming event.

 

[BlueWeasel]

Does she even know if the Architect or Interior Designs do renderings? I haven't worked with any ID, but the architects I've worked with previously wouldn't have a clue how to do a professional looking rendering.

Sounds like she may be barking up the wrong tree.

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
Does she even know if the Architect or Interior Designs do renderings? I haven't worked with any ID, but the architects I've worked with previously wouldn't have a clue how to do a professional looking rendering.

Sounds like she may be barking up the wrong tree.

she told them what she needed and they said ok. she kind of figured it would be taken care of because they said ok. the interior people have made some very crude 2d renders, but they aren't near the quality that is needed for the upcoming event. she is having a problem because these are not companies without experience. we have seen some of their other work in person and the work they have done is very good - as a finished structure. they have been paid in full as their agreement and always on time, again another reason why she can't figure out what the deal is.

if they don't know how to do it wouldn't she be rational and expect to be notified of this instead of being blown off?

 

[Talon]

Try the forums at cgarchitect. Many of the members do architectural visualization for a living and are very helpful.

cgarchitect

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

3d modelling is not easy, and it takes a great deal of skill to do good ones. Asking for photo-realistic is un-realistic. Just the CPU time to render fairly simple projects can take several hours. Also, most design professionals aren't sitting around twiddling their thumbs all day, generally they operate on an extended day anyhow to get their work done, so her requesting the renders and expecting a 10 day turnaround could also be at odds with their schedule. Especially since most small firms have at best one person capable of doing renders.

The software sometimes is part of the CAD package, but most I've dealt with use 3rd party programs so all the relevant info must be imported or input into that software.

I've done some simple renders myself for small projects using Sketchup Pro, but even that takes me a while, and they are by no means photo-realistic.

 

[edro]

Was the house modeled in 3D to begin with? Or are they trying to convert 2D blueprints into a 3D system?

There is a huge huge difference.

 

[Greenman]

Why doesn't she call whoever she talked to the first time and ask them how long it will take? Why didn't she ask that when she requested the renders?
She should be involved in the whole process from the very start, she should also be the one deciding what views she needs and how many. In a complex drawing, a quality rendering takes some time to set up, and can take a lot of hours to actualy render. All wasted time if the rendered view isn't what she wants.

 

[43st]

Is this a sale or is the job already sold? If you have the construction elevations then they've both done their part, it's up to your wife to hire a third party if she wants 3d renderings, or do them herself.

 

[slatr]

Has the modeling been done yet?

If the models are created, then yes it might not be too difficult. You could then buy a decent program and render them for her presentation.

I am guessing this is arch. vis?

 

[bob4432]

she wasn't the original person to set everything up and in the beginning i think some things were overlooked due to time constraints.

as far as what i have seen regarding the drawing it is currently all in 2d, in fact i have the ~3'x4' plans sitting on the kitchen table and it is all in 2d. i am not aware of any models that have been made.

as far as views, all that are needed is 2 or 3, one of the elevation of the add-on, one of the elevation of the entire building, both front - don't even need landscaping or anything, just the building itself would be excellent and then one of right when you open the door looking into the build. again, not too picky about the view, just need something for the event since the builds finish time is now pushed back - unfortunately for the event she needs these for she can't just show the 2d drawings architectural drawings.

i guess i am just thinking that somebody should let her know if a - they can not do the work, b - a time frame. all of the contractors/designers and architects know that this project is now running at a pretty good clip, so when she requested them this was conveyed. up until this point she would email them and have a response within a couple hours or to, thus the concern since there has been no mention of this even though she has asked them about it.

thanks for the info i will pass it on to her, i just didn't want to give her info on 3d modeling/rendering as it is 1 portion of computer graphics i have never dealt with.

 

[Greenman]

Originally posted by: bob4432
she wasn't the original person to set everything up and in the beginning i think some things were overlooked due to time constraints.

as far as what i have seen regarding the drawing it is currently all in 2d, in fact i have the ~3'x4' plans sitting on the kitchen table and it is all in 2d. i am not aware of any models that have been made.

as far as views, all that are needed is 2 or 3, one of the elevation of the add-on, one of the elevation of the entire building, both front - don't even need landscaping or anything, just the building itself would be excellent and then one of right when you open the door looking into the build. again, not too picky about the view, just need something for the event since the builds finish time is now pushed back - unfortunately for the event she needs these for she can't just show the 2d drawings architectural drawings.

i guess i am just thinking that somebody should let her know if a - they can not do the work, b - a time frame. all of the contractors/designers and architects know that this project is now running at a pretty good clip, so when she requested them this was conveyed. up until this point she would email them and have a response within a couple hours or to, thus the concern since there has been no mention of this even though she has asked them about it.

thanks for the info i will pass it on to her, i just didn't want to give her info on 3d modeling/rendering as it is 1 portion of computer graphics i have never dealt with.

If it's all in 2d she's toast. Renderings won't happen till someone does a 3d model. That will take lots of hours.

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: Greenman

Originally posted by: bob4432
she wasn't the original person to set everything up and in the beginning i think some things were overlooked due to time constraints.

as far as what i have seen regarding the drawing it is currently all in 2d, in fact i have the ~3'x4' plans sitting on the kitchen table and it is all in 2d. i am not aware of any models that have been made.

as far as views, all that are needed is 2 or 3, one of the elevation of the add-on, one of the elevation of the entire building, both front - don't even need landscaping or anything, just the building itself would be excellent and then one of right when you open the door looking into the build. again, not too picky about the view, just need something for the event since the builds finish time is now pushed back - unfortunately for the event she needs these for she can't just show the 2d drawings architectural drawings.

i guess i am just thinking that somebody should let her know if a - they can not do the work, b - a time frame. all of the contractors/designers and architects know that this project is now running at a pretty good clip, so when she requested them this was conveyed. up until this point she would email them and have a response within a couple hours or to, thus the concern since there has been no mention of this even though she has asked them about it.

thanks for the info i will pass it on to her, i just didn't want to give her info on 3d modeling/rendering as it is 1 portion of computer graphics i have never dealt with.

If it's all in 2d she's toast. Renderings won't happen till someone does a 3d model. That will take lots of hours.

at least they do have all of the files they need