California AT folks, you okay? Governor issues historic drought restrictions:

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zinfamous

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I could understand forcing Californians to defecate outside and recycle sweat for an awesome nut, like a pistachio. But not almonds, they're terrible.

agreed. though I do like almonds, I would never make such a sacrifice for them.
 

jagec

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what does "Government" mean, in that chart, and why is it 12% of GDP?

:hmm:

You're right, it's probably supposed to be NEGATIVE 12%. I was told that government cannot create jobs, only destroy them through taxes and regulations.
 

shortylickens

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California is the most populous state which is the more important fact for economics. One of every eight Americans lives in California. Imagine what will happen if they start moving to other states.

I'd be happy to shoot them at my own expense.
 

gorcorps

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California is the most populous state which is the more important fact for economics. One of every eight Americans lives in California. Imagine what will happen if they start moving to other states.

What do you mean IF they start moving? I know Colorado has seen a lot of Californians move in for a decade or so, and I'm sure they're moving to other states too. The population in Colorado has climbed so much faster than could have been expected. Traffic is fucking miserable because the highways were never built with regards to the amount of people that are there now. This was an issue even before pot was legalized, now it's just getting bananas.
 

Fritzo

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Kill yourself now, and stop being part of the problem. Thankyou.

That's cyberbullying! You're going to get a social media group going after you and end up on the news if you're not careful!
 

VtPC83

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One thing to keep in mind with pictures like Ns1's. That green grass is also full of moisture compared to the dry brown grass. It can act like a short term firewall if there is a brush fire. Fire won't catch as quickly to green, moist grass as to the brown driftwood.

I'm not saying that is why they do it but it would be a side benefit.
 

gorcorps

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When full, Lake McClure holds 1 million acre-feet of water; an acre-foot is the amount of water it would take to cover an acre of land with one foot of water.

Are we just making up units of volume now? What's wrong with gallons? Or even cubic feet?
 

DrPizza

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One thing to keep in mind with pictures like Ns1's. That green grass is also full of moisture compared to the dry brown grass. It can act like a short term firewall if there is a brush fire. Fire won't catch as quickly to green, moist grass as to the brown driftwood.

I'm not saying that is why they do it but it would be a side benefit.
Or, they could fill it in with gravel. Gravel usually doesn't burn either.


With all the idiot humanitarian groups ramming boats into whaling boats, you'd think some of them would start aerial spraying with herbicides over places like this. It'd be less dangerous, cheaper, and more effective.
 

Ruptga

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Are we just making up units of volume now? What's wrong with gallons? Or even cubic feet?

Acre-feet have been used forever, and its units are obviously much larger than gallons or cubic feet so it's more convenient when dealing with lakes and stuff. Besides, what's not to get about a chain by a furlong by a foot?
 
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Or, they could fill it in with gravel. Gravel usually doesn't burn either.


With all the idiot humanitarian groups ramming boats into whaling boats, you'd think some of them would start aerial spraying with herbicides over places like this. It'd be less dangerous, cheaper, and more effective.

It would be less dangerous to randomly dump poison over a populated area than ramming a whaling boat? I mean, sure, ramming a whaling boat is a shitty idea, but you're only putting a handful of people at risk. An uncontrolled aerial poison dump? Who knows how many people could be negatively affected. And not just because they lose their beautiful lawn.

I agree with you about gravel though. I was walking through my neighborhood yesterday and there were some lawns that were completely replaced with rock gardens; if they're done right, they're stunning. And this was in Portland, Oregon where our threat of forest fire is hanging steady at zero percent. You'd think if you lived in a place where wildfire was an annual occurrence, laying a moat of attractive gravel around the outside of your house would be a better idea than surrounding your house with a plant that, thanks to water restrictions, is essentially kindling eight months a year.
 

Muse

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I've been good with water for years (Berkeley, CA). I use on average probably around 55-60 gallons/day. I don't waste water. In fact I don't waste much of anything, "waste not, want not."

I'm OK, no problems, but there are folks in CA who are having a really tough time with water. Their sources in some cases are gone, e.g. dried up wells. Some people are getting emergency water.

It's hitting agriculture really bad. CA supplies around 1/2 of the nation's fruit and vegetables. CA supplies IIRC more than 1/2 of the world's almonds, which are water intensive. I read a story yesterday that one almond can require as much as a gallon of water to grow it. It's gotten to the point where farmers are allowing their almond trees to die. It's sad when perennial fruit, nut trees and vines are allowed to die because the farmer can't afford to water them.
 
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Muse

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Well...the drought is over. It's raining in NorCal...
It rained last night, maybe 7/8" on my DIY backyard rain guage. It would take around 20 storms like today to end the drought, I'm guessing.
 
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