I have a problem that the people that wrote Proposition 1-A lied about how much it would cost, lied about how long it would take to build, lied about where it would go and lied about how fast it would get there. Why aren't you angry that the proponents of Proposition 1-A lied?GOP and Trumptards are currently feuding with Jerry Brown, an actually competent national leader, because Trump had an anuerysm the other night
cue Tajtard and the talking point of the year: "hahahah the CA progress-train! what a failure! TRUMP RULES!"
what a fucking retarded idiot.
Meanwhile, we have a over $120 billion in public pension liabilities. Kind of makes the $100 billion dollar train to nowhere look like money well spent.
Just call it maga, it's what you describe.It's difficult for me to fathom how an adult can be this ignorant.
Do you think people will like you if you jump on the band wagon? Is it all about the approval of others, or is it just that hate makes you feel superior?
GOP and Trumptards are currently feuding with Jerry Brown, an actually competent national leader, because Trump had an anuerysm the other night
cue Tajtard and the talking point of the year: "hahahah the CA progress-train! what a failure! TRUMP RULES!"
what a fucking retarded idiot.
Tens of billions to create a solution for a problem that doesn't exist? Democrats are onboard.
A few billions dollars to help secure our southern border, make a dent in human trafficking? No, too expensive (aka Trump wants something, even something the Democrats called for, Democrats must obstruct).
The irony of an oblivious dipshit complaining about spending money for a problem that doesn't exist while saying that we need to spend money on another problem that doesn't exist.Tens of billions to create a solution for a problem that doesn't exist? Democrats are onboard.
A few billions dollars to help secure our southern border, make a dent in human trafficking? No, too expensive (aka Trump wants something, even something the Democrats called for, Democrats must obstruct).
Most media has gotten what Newsom meant wrong. Basically he's not going to have CA foot the bill for the remaining expensive bits (Pacheco and Tehachapi tunnels) alone. The state will seek federal money. The state will continue environmental and engineering studies on the connections to SF and LA so when funds are available construction can begin. Realistically neither of those projects would be starting for several years anyway.
One thing we need to figure out for this project (and other infrastructure projects in general) is that overall costs per mile in the US are out of control as compared to other developed countries. I'm sure there are a dozen reasons why that is but one of the big ones is land acquisition costs and such. I know people on here hate eminent domain but that's one of the things it was created for and we should use it more.
Tens of billions to create a solution for a problem that doesn't exist? Democrats are onboard.
A few billions dollars to help secure our southern border, make a dent in human trafficking? No, too expensive (aka Trump wants something, even something the Democrats called for, Democrats must obstruct).
Can you imagine trying to build the Hoover dam today? Short term thinking would bitch and moan about what it would cost in today's dollars 700-800 Million. Increases in labor and material costs means it would be at least 2-3 billion, best guest.
That project paid for itself many times over. We are to busy thinking about present day costs and not looking long term
You are really not taking his loss well. Face facts, Americans don't want the useless wall and they disliked him trying to shut the government down for it even more. That's why he lost. Next time he should try some more mainstream positions, no?
Can you imagine trying to build the Hoover dam today? Short term thinking would bitch and moan about what it would cost in today's dollars 700-800 Million. Increases in labor and material costs means it would be at least 2-3 billion, best guest.
That project paid for itself many times over. We are to busy thinking about present day costs and not looking long term
A major problem with CAHSR specifically was that they started building before having all the land acquired. Turned into a very expensive and long clusterfuck. ED would have been pretty useful in speeding this up if there was any political will to use it. Unfortunately the whole starting the system in the middle plan as a sop to Central Valley politicians/voters was ill advised and artificially constraining so it's clear such will is in short supply.
While this works itself out I'd like to see CA shift some attention to the LOSSAN Corridor between SD and LA. A couple billion dollars could electrify the route, cut the SD-LA time to less than 2 hours, and drastically increase capacity in a place that needs it within a couple years. Basically do what Caltrain is doing between San Jose and San Francisco.
Did you buy all the food you are going to eat for the rest of your life last week?
Yup. I remember saying at the time that starting the high speed rail where they did was a mistake. They should have started where the benefit would be obvious and built out from there.
It is sad that there's so little will to expand use of eminent domain because I think it's one of the biggest obstacles to the US constructing what it needs to construct. A place where property rights are so strong that a handful of rich people can inhibit the construction of something that will help millions and millions of people is a place where property rights have become a straightjacket instead of something liberating.
Yeah, just ED the whole damned right of way and let people fight you in court over fair market value while you build away.
The project will never be completed. The budget is already out of control, the land acquisition costs are going to be crippling, and the end result will be a moderate speed rail system that's slower and costs more than flying.Most media has gotten what Newsom meant wrong. Basically he's not going to have CA foot the bill for the remaining expensive bits (Pacheco and Tehachapi tunnels) alone. The state will seek federal money. The state will continue environmental and engineering studies on the connections to SF and LA so when funds are available construction can begin. Realistically neither of those projects would be starting for several years anyway.
Does anyone have the total dollar amount wasted on this?
How much is the wall again...?