So then it is quite possible that these admins are rationalizing these requests from within the confines of a limited or biased worldview of their own, shaped by yet other forms of propoganda and group think. In doing so, they are creating social safety nets and buffers that, perhaps intended to protect these individuals as students, but inadvertently harm them given that these campus social constructs do not exist within society at large, nor arguably should theyYet here you are rather intently focused on microaggressions & such instead of what actually goes on in these school politics matters.
Most everyone justify/rationalize what are in fact their will/interests; there's convincing theory that's how human language evolved. There's no reason to believe whatever admin decided this on the basis of various rationalizations rather than the usual to and fro of these negotiations, unless of course there's some agenda to make things appear what they're not.
So then it is quite possible that these admins are rationalizing these requests from within the confines of a limited or biased worldview of their own, shaped by yet other forms of propoganda and group think. In doing so, they are creating social safety nets and buffers that, perhaps intended to protect these individuals as students, but inadvertently harm them given that these campus social constructs do not exist within society at large, nor arguably should they
So instead of having segregated black only and white only separate but equal schools, racist states should have mixed race and white schools and then there won't be a civil rights violation because the white students can merely choose to seclude themselves?
No, it isn't. I don't know how any rational person could think that.
making demands that one of the criteria to hire somebody is the color of their skin is racist. I don't know how any rational person could not think that. also in your world only a black person can teach african history? well shit i guess the millions of the white african folk need not apply.
As mentioned, that's simply how you were told to see things. As one example, it doesn't seem unreasonable to request african studies counterparts if there are similar euro studies profs, unless of course you believe africans don't have history.
First, who since you know so much about me who told me this??
Second, yes it is unreasonable to demand that only black people be hired to teach african studies. if you dont think thats racist then i can not help you. I guess only yellow people can teach about china?
From what I've seen there's quite a few of these havens on the internet, like stormfront or its affiliate network. Admission standards appear pretty low and the membership is free so you should get right on that if interested.
This sounds rather copy-pasted, from the 1960's.
That's the best you can do? Your posting skills are dropping to the level of the rest of the SJW herpderp crowd.
It's pretty certain which side of the civil rights debate considers affirmative action to be reverse-racist, and you're not exactly deviating much from their script.
so i say its wrong to demand somebody to be hired because of their skin color and you call me a racist? lol ok I think we are done here. welcome to ignore.
15. We DEMAND ponies. Really cool ponies.
16. We DEMAND free Taco Bell. For life. Delivered by a Black person.
(If you're gonna demand shit of scared liberals who will cave-in to just about anything for fear of being called 'racist' if they don't comply... toss some goodies in!)
This is basically the same argument as 'why do colleges have african-american studies but not white studies?' It's not a good one.
There goes the forum gnat again.. being racist and claiming it's someone else. About the 5th or 6th time I've seen him do it.
I wonder if he'll get called on it? AGAIN.
No, it is not real. People got duped by conservative media again, unfortunately.
One part of this story is the lesson that you cannot trust the facts as presented in conservative media.
While more obvious conservative media certainly ran with the story I wasn't aware that ABC\NBC\CBS were considered conservative media.
Some example headlines from those outlets:
Cal State LA Under Scrutiny For Offering Segregated Housing For Black Students
Cal State LA to offer segregated housing for black students
California State University To Offer Segregated Housing To Black Students
California State Univeristy Los Angeles to offer segregated housing for black students
http://www.10news.com/news/californ...-segregated-housing-for-black-students-090716
http://www.abc15.com/news/national/cal-state-la-to-offer-segregated-housing-for-black-students
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016...fering-segregated-housing-for-black-students/
While I agree with you that segregating people creates bigotry, this isn't that different than people being part of an African-American student club, which my guess would be you have no problem with. People who come into college come from really different backgrounds and I have no problem with the college facilitating them making connections with people who have similar backgrounds and interests. I share your dislike of what I perceive to be some profoundly illiberal censorship of ideas from college students that claim to be liberal, but I'm not convinced that these living communities represent a similar isolation from conflicting ideas.
The role of universities has certainly changed. Rather than teaching you to think, they now teach you what to think, and protect you from anything that might penetrate that bubble. Micro aggressions, you know.The difference between a club and a dormitory is a matter of significant degree. A club is a place you spend an hour or two a week at. A dorm is a place you live. In college dorms I met gays and other people who were outside my past experiences, and it was a good thing.
De facto segregation is inevitable to a point, if for no other reason, because people are naturally inclined to associate with people who are similar to them. Given that this is the case, it's a bad idea for our institutions to encourage it. We have plenty of de facto housing segregation in the real world. We don't need to encourage it in our colleges and universities when people are still in their formative years. This is a time when people should be exposing themselves to different people and different ideas, not comforting themselves by only being around people who look like them. I can't believe that a university would actually encourage such a thing. I guess times have changed.
The role of universities has certainly changed. Rather than teaching you to think, they now teach you what to think, and protect you from anything that might penetrate that bubble. Micro aggressions, you know.
Not really, that's a fairly shit analogy. African-American studies, in principle, exist to study history and culture that might not be ignored otherwise in favor of usual history that is generally mostly white. Meaning, it is redundant for "white history" to be taught when European history, most early American history, etc are widespread and already white. Living situations are not analogous to that at all; "African-American studies" may be necessary for that part of history to be learned, black dorms are not necessary to provide blacks living space in college.
The difference between a club and a dormitory is a matter of significant degree. A club is a place you spend an hour or two a week at. A dorm is a place you live. In college dorms I met gays and other people who were outside my past experiences, and it was a good thing.
De facto segregation is inevitable to a point, if for no other reason, because people are naturally inclined to associate with people who are similar to them. Given that this is the case, it's a bad idea for our institutions to encourage it. We have plenty of de facto housing segregation in the real world. We don't need to encourage it in our colleges and universities when people are still in their formative years. This is a time when people should be exposing themselves to different people and different ideas, not comforting themselves by only being around people who look like them. I can't believe that a university would actually encourage such a thing. I guess times have changed.