California Wildfires

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K1052

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South African with a burgeoning eugenics hobby thinks that the actual problem is women and black people. He's really breaking new ground.
 
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sactoking

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Having met with dozens of insurance companies, climatologists, catastrophe modelers, the state forester firewarden where I live, etc. over the past year is say the consensus is things like ember shielding vents is 100% useless in a catastrophic fire unless you've also taken several other steps to mitigate. Put another way, individual property mitigation is not a factor compared to community mitigation.
 
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gothuevos

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What an ignorant person you are.

No doubt that once in a lifetime 100 mph Santa Ana winds contributed to making this an unmitigated disaster.

But for a state that claims/tries to be prepared for the effects of climate change to be caught so off guard...is just terrible and unacceptable. There should be some accountability.
 

MrSquished

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oh christ, this guy is just the worst. he doesn't ask for DeSantis to resign from hurricane damage but for Cali, he does.
 
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K1052

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But for a state that claims/tries to be prepared for the effects of climate change to be caught so off guard...is just terrible and unacceptable. There should be some accountability.

I want to see you wander in to a neighborhood where the median home price is like 5M and tell everybody what you want them to do and see how that goes for you.
 

Brovane

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Having met with dozens of insurance companies, climatologists, catastrophe modelers, the state forester firewarden where I live, etc. over the past year is say the consensus is things like ember shielding vents is 100% useless in a catastrophic fire unless you've also taken several other steps to mitigate. Put another way, individual property mitigation is not a factor compared to community mitigation.

Of course ember shielding vents is useless if you don't have a defensible space around your property.

I think about 1993 when Laguna Beach suffered a catastrophic fire and one house stood out from the rest. So yes please have your so called experts say that individual property mitigation is not a factor and I will call BS.

This home survived the Laguna Beach fire of October 1993, which claimed more than 400 neighboring homes, thanks to a fire-resistant tile roof, stucco exterior, stucco-covered boxed eaves and under-decks, double-pane windows and selective landscaping


https://basc.pnnl.gov/images/home-s...ich-claimed-more-400-neighboring-homes-thanks
 

K1052

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Of course ember shielding vents is useless if you don't have a defensible space around your property.

I think about 1993 when Laguna Beach suffered a catastrophic fire and one house stood out from the rest. So yes please have your so called experts say that individual property mitigation is not a factor and I will call BS.

This home survived the Laguna Beach fire of October 1993, which claimed more than 400 neighboring homes, thanks to a fire-resistant tile roof, stucco exterior, stucco-covered boxed eaves and under-decks, double-pane windows and selective landscaping


https://basc.pnnl.gov/images/home-s...ich-claimed-more-400-neighboring-homes-thanks

In the drone shots I've seen from the PP fire not every single house is destroyed, even in the middle of a burned out neighborhood. I suspect some common factors in those individual residences that prevented them from catching.
 

K1052

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Ok cool?

Let the NIMBYS just run everything I guess. Par for the course in America anyway.

ftfy

Ultimately the insurers are going to be the ones to drive change here because they aren't elected or susceptible to lawsuits if they won't cover you. Your neighborhood hasn't implemented mitigations? Denied. You haven't retrofitted and cleared your property as specified in our requirements? Denied. Etc.
 

Roger Wilco

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Hurricanes caused $230 billion in damage this year. And now this will cause tens of billions in damage.
 

MrSquished

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As much as I dislike Woods, this nothing to cheer about.
It absolutely is something to smile about. Nobody died. He deserves to suffer - that guy is a full blown modern American Nazi and massive purveyor of the most horrific misinformation and evil modern American Nazi propaganda. Fuck him.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
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Gross, dude.
I would be happy if Don Jr.'s house burned down too if he had one in the area. I'm sorry you sympathize with the most evil people in our society. You want Newsome to resign but feel bad for totally evil Nazis.how cute.

Woods is literally using the wildfires to spread even more evil hateful Nazi propaganda. I'm glad he got fucked.
 
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Jaskalas

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Gross, dude.
You meant that comment for Elon and "Libs of Tiktok" linked on the previous page.
Right?
...
Right?!

Because the intended consequences of their language is not lost on me. Their rage baiting and inciting / driving hatred as a response to this event is just par the course. I recall other whackjobs repeating conspiracies for the Hawaii fire. Intentionally man made, etc. And we're going to pretend these fires are a consequence of "Democrat" government?

Do you endorse their thinking?
Because the whole MAGA alt-reality driving a hatred of others is the grossest thing I've seen on this topic.
 
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njdevilsfan87

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I'm starting to wonder if climate change if purposely denied or downplayed by the right as a method to push everyone towards "you will own nothing and be happy". Because who knows who much longer home insurance is going to be a thing in places like California. Destroying the climate is the perfect way to strip every one of their ownerships.
 
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