Call for a ban of AEG members that advertise/troll Video forum.

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: Wreckage
Can we ban the ATI trolls, er I mean "beta testers" as well?

most of them come across as harmless fans, not like you dedicated AEG whores

Really?

Have you read some of the posts by M0RPH or munky or nts, etc. ?

Yes, they never troll and always present a coherent logical argument. This thread is about getting rid of AEG agents, stay on topic please.

As a neutral party in this witch hunt you are full of crap, 5150. While rollo clearly perfers nvidia there is no evidence directly linking rollo to AEG. On top of that, your comments about m0rph and munky and nts are obviously biased as well.

In my opinion most of the users mentioned in this thread dont deserve to post at AT, but none of them work for AEG/Nv.

My "link" to AEG is that they have given me some games, beta software, and a few cards Acanthus. I don't "work" for them, but I am a member of their focus group.

I know exactly what it is. Their skew of "viral marketing" is a damn joke. Its nothing more than sending out hardware for reviews from users.

In no way are there people obligated to talk up nvidia or the products sent to them, they are however encouraged to give feedback about the product/patch/driver/whatever they are sent. This has gone on for a long time now in the technology world...

 

[ronnn]

This is rich, a known liar and his cronies setting the record straight. So the question is, how will the mods handle this fiasco?

 

[nts]

How long have you been a member of AEG Rollo? I keep hearing this program was started around the NV40 launch (bad image from NV30).

How many user accounts do you have on this forum?

And I'm still in support of your ban/suspension.

 

[rbV5]

Originally posted by: Wreckage
Can we ban the ATI trolls, er I mean "beta testers" as well?

Funny how Rollo tried that same line of reasoning back when the AEG issue first hit the forum some time back, and now here you are as well. Of course at that time, he was denying any part in this viral marketing crap, but offered me up as an example as someone who might be suspect. (Ironic?)

Beta Testing is an important part of the enthusiast community ansd computer community at large. Virtually no hardware or software products ever hit the market without a large contribution from beta testers. These are positive folks doing positive, incredibly boring, respected work and are GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.

I don't hide the fact that I'm a beta tester, and never have. I'm proud of the work I've done over the years (for various companies, not just ATI) I've helped an enormous amount of individuals here with the experience I've gained. I've provided feedback on several bugs myself that were not identified (at least submitted) by anybody else, bugs that were fixed due to my very own involvment as a beta tester, bugs that won't be tripping up users here at this forum.

Just wtf have you done for the community I might ask?

I wouldn't be a part of a community that would even consider a beta tester as something undesirable, and I don't think you are in any position to call to have me banned for my involvement as such.

I personally think its outrageous to compare a community asset, as I consider myself and the other beta testers whomever they may be, with this sleezy nonsense. Equating them as Fanboys and such only seems to be an attempt to mimimise their shenanigans by placing them into a larger pool..I say BS. There are a lot of fanboys, only but a few of these shills.

They all had there chance to come clean at the beginning, but chose not to. Damn straight Rollo should be banned IMO.

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: rbV5

Originally posted by: Wreckage
Can we ban the ATI trolls, er I mean "beta testers" as well?

Just wtf have you done for the community I might ask?

I agree totally with all your other points, but I think that is unfair and off base. Wreckage is just doing what everyone does in the vid forum. Besides he came up with the best suggestion - that anandtech copy the hardocp model and clean up the whole mess. Probably unrealistic as the vid forum here is very busy and the crowd seems to enjoy the verbal abuse they shower each other with. So in lieu of a major change, just ban Rollo.

 

[mrzed]

Originally posted by: Rollo

However, I do feel that his obvious campaign to expose any weakness in ATI products and inflame the discusssions has gone a long way to the decline of these forums, more than any other member I could think of.

There's nothing wrong with exposing the weaknesses of any video card or company. Plenty hear had much fun railing on the DX 9 shortcomings of the FX series and inflamed many owners. (and they never even bothered to point out the good points of the FXs like angle independent AF!)
The point is I'm no different than anyone else here, except I get some free and discounted parts, and NDA info.

Perhaps not a perma ban, but if he took a vacation for a while, maybe it would be a small help in getting things in Video to calm down a little.

For what? Not divulging that I've received some free parts?

Sad situation really, because he's certinaly not the only one dragging the forum down with him, and it does seem unfair to single him out, but given the evidence, I'd have to say begone.

Guess that's up to the mods. Either way, I'll respect their wishes and not post here if asked not to do so. (i.e. I won't pull a Turtle and return on one of my other ISPs)

OK, I'll have to say I am undecided. I'd definitely be concerned about a perma-ban, because I do think there are other members on both camps who are in the same boat. I do think there's more here than not divulging a few freebies, and that there is a certain amount of deception that gets my hackles up.

I't might be a bit harsh to see Rollo gone forever, because he does contribute, but I also feel like there is a need for some accounting.

Mostly Rollo, I'd rather see you tone it down a little, because it seems you have the capacity. Reading some of you threads I can't help feel that you are like a certain type of grade school bully, not the ones that beat up on other kids, but the ones that know how to rile up the kids with poor impulse control, then you sit back and watch the kid freak out and get in trouble with the teacher, while you can point out that technically, you did nothing wrong. It's subtle sometimes, but it clearly seems you get a kick out of it.

I suppose I can uderstand in a way, there is a certain amount of amusement to be had, and it is a long tradition in online forums. But I think it should be a side dish, and lately it has become the main course for the video forum. What has this to do with the AEG stuff? Perhaps not much, except to say that there is perhaps more to Rollo's motivations, and certainly more to the chaos in the video forum than one poster receiving incentive to promote a certain view.

I think the fact that you are still posting and this thread is not locked is a good indication that this is a complex situation to deal with, and AT is not having an easy time coming up with answers.

 

[Wreckage]

Well I keep using the term "hypocrite" and it still rings true in this thread.

I said "ban all trolls" but the ATI fanboyz say no just ban Rollo because of AEG and all other NVIDIA fans because they must be Rollo dupes.

Rollo gets hardware and software to evaluate and post about in forums. Sounds a lot like what certain "beta testers" do.

It's clear he leans right into the green. However it's also clear who leans right into the red even if they don't want to admit it.

If Rollo has to go, so be it. At the same time then the whole video card forum should be locked down and cleansed on both sides of the fence. Of course it's clear that the video card forum is loosely moderated and that may be how AT wants it. That's up to them. It's not my site to go around telling em what to do.

However, the whole "NVIDIA is evil because of their marketing company and ATI is awesome and pure as canadian snow" is an agenda being pushed by the same fanboys who have been trolling their cause all along.

This is not the press nor is anyone under oath. This a forum based mainly on opinions. Clearly if you don't like it here, head on over to Rage3D it may be more your "style".

 

[Sind]

Long time lurker here, whats sad about all this is that Rollo makes some posts and the usual band of people follow him from thread to thread either a) trying to debunk him b) trolling themselves. Half the people in this thread complaining about him seem to add nothing to the video forum beyond following him around or "balancing arguements" from someone who supports some IHV. If AT wants to truely cleanup the video forum don't stop at Rollo, an approach much like HardOCP took is needed, with some actual dedicated moderation, and perhaps splitting of the forum into two sections would be a wise decision. As it is now, ban Rollo, Keysplayer, Appopin, munky, M0RPH, 5150_joker, RobertR1, Wreckage, crazydingo, nts to start. Perhaps some actual discussion can take place then, instead of people visiting video on a daily basis to watch the "Days of our Lives" drama that is played out there daily, and which has for some time. When is the last time any of the above mentioned actually truely responded in a discussion to help out a forum member beyond trying to plug their favorite IHV and further any "agenda" they themselves might have.

I will never understand the corporate fanboy and desire to plug a certain product or company regardless of being paid or not, despite any faults that product might have. If anything those who do it for free are the worst type in my books, at least the ones getting hardware or real dollars are getting something in return for the drivel they post. Please resume endless bickering, witch hunts and name calling in the name of your favorite corporation, as I'm sure it will keep on continuing just like it has in the past for so long. If half the people in this thread truely cared about these forums as they have said, they would ban themselves.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: ronnn
This is rich, a known liar and his cronies setting the record straight. So the question is, how will the mods handle this fiasco?

Oh so now i work for AEG too? Do you guys honestly believe half of the drivel you type?

This is just a war of fanbois trying to get each other banned. How about you stop "going to tell mommy" and stop trolling in video and the issues will be resolved?

The video card and cpu wars will never end, banning anyone over this would be retarded.

 

[crazydingo]

Acnathus, Rollo admitted he was a part of AEG/Nvidia's program.

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Facts are that AEG members that we know of have served as a constant disruption to these forums and have been responsible for spreading FUD. Fanboys are a problem but not as much as an actual agent that gets kickbacks from nVidia/AEG for advertising their product to forum members while actively engaging in a smear campaign against nVidia/AEG's competitor (ATi). Like others have mentioned, this goes against the spirit of these and other forums and circumvents paying for the use of the forums as an advertisement platform. There is no good brought to any forums by these agents and therefore their ban should be hastened.

Seconded.

Originally posted by: Wreckage
I said "ban all trolls" but the ATI fanboyz say no just ban Rollo because of AEG and all other NVIDIA fans because they must be Rollo dupes.

If Rollo has to go, so be it. At the same time then the whole video card forum should be locked down and cleansed on both sides of the fence. Of course it's clear that the video card forum is loosely moderated and that may be how AT wants it. That's up to them. It's not my site to go around telling em what to do.

Topic is about AEG/Nvidia polluting the AT forums and violating the TOS. If and when ATI involvement surfaces, we can start another topic on that.

Originally posted by: Wreckage
However, the whole "NVIDIA is evil because of their marketing company and ATI is awesome and pure as canadian snow" is an agenda being pushed by the same fanboys who have been trolling their cause all along.

lol, Wreckage you are being a very sensitive fanboy here. I dont see the bolded part of the above statement, clearly you are hurt deep inside to become emotional and feel in that way.

Originally posted by: Wreckage
This is not the press nor is anyone under oath. This a forum based mainly on opinions. Clearly if you don't like it here, head on over to Rage3D it may be more your "style".

Similarly, you can head over to nvnews where you, Rollo and all other AEG members can have a big group hug and think all this never happened.

 

[RobertR1]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: ronnn
This is rich, a known liar and his cronies setting the record straight. So the question is, how will the mods handle this fiasco?

Oh so now i work for AEG too? Do you guys honestly believe half of the drivel you type?

This is just a war of fanbois trying to get each other banned. How about you stop "going to tell mommy" and stop trolling in video and the issues will be resolved?

The video card and cpu wars will never end, banning anyone over this would be retarded.

My only stance for his ban was when he attempted to get people suspended/banned by denying his affiliation with AEG.

Other than that, it'd be more amusing to seem him contiue posting.

Wreckage,

rbv5 made a very intellingent reply to you. Try addressing it first before spewing more garbage. One has to wonder why a self proclaimed troll/instigator is still allowed to post?

 

[sisq0kidd]

Originally posted by: Sind
Long time lurker here, whats sad about all this is that Rollo makes some posts and the usual band of people follow him from thread to thread either a) trying to debunk him b) trolling themselves. Half the people in this thread complaining about him seem to add nothing to the video forum beyond following him around or "balancing arguements" from someone who supports some IHV. If AT wants to truely cleanup the video forum don't stop at Rollo, an approach much like HardOCP took is needed, with some actual dedicated moderation, and perhaps splitting of the forum into two sections would be a wise decision. As it is now, ban Rollo, Keysplayer, Appopin, munky, M0RPH, 5150_joker, RobertR1, Wreckage, crazydingo, nts to start. Perhaps some actual discussion can take place then, instead of people visiting video on a daily basis to watch the "Days of our Lives" drama that is played out there daily, and which has for some time. When is the last time any of the above mentioned actually truely responded in a discussion to help out a forum member beyond trying to plug their favorite IHV and further any "agenda" they themselves might have.

I will never understand the corporate fanboy and desire to plug a certain product or company regardless of being paid or not, despite any faults that product might have. If anything those who do it for free are the worst type in my books, at least the ones getting hardware or real dollars are getting something in return for the drivel they post. Please resume endless bickering, witch hunts and name calling in the name of your favorite corporation, as I'm sure it will keep on continuing just like it has in the past for so long. If half the people in this thread truely cared about these forums as they have said, they would ban themselves.

Wow, very good post. Could not have said that better myself.

You should post more often

Edit: And just like the trend of the video forum, the best post goes ignored

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: ronnn
This is rich, a known liar and his cronies setting the record straight. So the question is, how will the mods handle this fiasco?

Oh so now i work for AEG too? Do you guys honestly believe half of the drivel you type?

This is just a war of fanbois trying to get each other banned. How about you stop "going to tell mommy" and stop trolling in video and the issues will be resolved?

The video card and cpu wars will never end, banning anyone over this would be retarded.

I wasn't thinking at all about you. Actually I troll very little in the vid card forum. Have reformed my behaviour and mostly avoid it. Still my opinion stands and I would like to see anandtech clean up this mess. :beer:

 

[rbV5]

Originally posted by: ronnn

Originally posted by: rbV5

Originally posted by: Wreckage
Can we ban the ATI trolls, er I mean "beta testers" as well?

Just wtf have you done for the community I might ask?

I agree totally with all your other points, but I think that is unfair and off base. Wreckage is just doing what everyone does in the vid forum. Besides he came up with the best suggestion - that anandtech copy the hardocp model and clean up the whole mess. Probably unrealistic as the vid forum here is very busy and the crowd seems to enjoy the verbal abuse they shower each other with. So in lieu of a major change, just ban Rollo.

No, I agree ronnn. I've called for more moderation in the video forum, and I think he's right on the money, but the whole "Rollo for Mod" crap and now this revelation is just insulting to the forum, as is being equated with it since I'm a ATI beta tester. I'm a bit sensitive to it since Id been warned by the moderators for questioning Rollo's motivation in the past after he complained about it in here in FI. I did offer him an appology publically, but wasn't particualarly happy about it.

Wreckage continues however:

Rollo gets hardware and software to evaluate and post about in forums. Sounds a lot like what certain "beta testers" do.

Doesn't sound like what I do as a beta tester. I provide feedback to the manufacturer or vendor for beta products so that they can be evaluated on real world machines, not just QA labs. Public forum posting is in no way any part of beta testing I do for ATI.

 

[Rage187]

This is like watching a soap opera on LOGO.

I say we ban all of you and let the video forum start over from scratch. You kids have become worse then the trash in P&N.

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: rbV5

Originally posted by: ronnn

Originally posted by: rbV5

Originally posted by: Wreckage
Can we ban the ATI trolls, er I mean "beta testers" as well?

Just wtf have you done for the community I might ask?

I agree totally with all your other points, but I think that is unfair and off base. Wreckage is just doing what everyone does in the vid forum. Besides he came up with the best suggestion - that anandtech copy the hardocp model and clean up the whole mess. Probably unrealistic as the vid forum here is very busy and the crowd seems to enjoy the verbal abuse they shower each other with. So in lieu of a major change, just ban Rollo.

No, I agree ronnn. I've called for more moderation in the video forum, and I think he's right on the money, but the whole "Rollo for Mod" crap and now this revelation is just insulting to the forum, as is being equated with it since I'm a ATI beta tester. I'm a bit sensitive to it since Id been warned by the moderators for questioning Rollo's motivation in the past after he complained about it in here in FI. I did offer him an appology publically, but wasn't particualarly happy about it.

Wreckage continues however:

Rollo gets hardware and software to evaluate and post about in forums. Sounds a lot like what certain "beta testers" do.

Doesn't sound like what I do as a beta tester. I provide feedback to the manufacturer or vendor for beta products so that they can be evaluated on real world machines, not just QA labs. Public forum posting is in no way any part of beta testing I do for ATI.

Oops, I didn't realize he was accusing you of the same type of behaviour. My mistake - I withdraw my previous comment. :beer:

edit: Did the moderators actually question your posting behaviour in regards to Rollo? Wow! He is good.

 

[sisq0kidd]

Originally posted by: rbV5

Originally posted by: ronnn

Originally posted by: rbV5

Originally posted by: Wreckage
Can we ban the ATI trolls, er I mean "beta testers" as well?

Just wtf have you done for the community I might ask?

I agree totally with all your other points, but I think that is unfair and off base. Wreckage is just doing what everyone does in the vid forum. Besides he came up with the best suggestion - that anandtech copy the hardocp model and clean up the whole mess. Probably unrealistic as the vid forum here is very busy and the crowd seems to enjoy the verbal abuse they shower each other with. So in lieu of a major change, just ban Rollo.

No, I agree ronnn. I've called for more moderation in the video forum, and I think he's right on the money, but the whole "Rollo for Mod" crap and now this revelation is just insulting to the forum, as is being equated with it since I'm a ATI beta tester. I'm a bit sensitive to it since Id been warned by the moderators for questioning Rollo's motivation in the past after he complained about it in here in FI. I did offer him an appology publically, but wasn't particualarly happy about it.

Wreckage continues however:

Rollo gets hardware and software to evaluate and post about in forums. Sounds a lot like what certain "beta testers" do.

Doesn't sound like what I do as a beta tester. I provide feedback to the manufacturer or vendor for beta products so that they can be evaluated on real world machines, not just QA labs. Public forum posting is in no way any part of beta testing I do for ATI.

Well, I think the major difference is that you disclose the fact that you are a beta tester. It even says it in your sig. I see no problem with that as long as people take your information with the "baggage."

 

[jasonja]

"off with his head!!!"

 

[rise]

well, aside from the lies rollo told us members, the worst part would be the lies he must have told the mods in PM's.

like my father told me (and showed me) when i was about 9- i'll go to bat for you all day, any day but you better be telling me the truth.

 

[Kalessian]

Originally posted by: Sind
Long time lurker here, whats sad about all this is that Rollo makes some posts and the usual band of people follow him from thread to thread either a) trying to debunk him b) trolling themselves. Half the people in this thread complaining about him seem to add nothing to the video forum beyond following him around or "balancing arguements" from someone who supports some IHV. If AT wants to truely cleanup the video forum don't stop at Rollo, an approach much like HardOCP took is needed, with some actual dedicated moderation, and perhaps splitting of the forum into two sections would be a wise decision. As it is now, ban Rollo, Keysplayer, Appopin, munky, M0RPH, 5150_joker, RobertR1, Wreckage, crazydingo, nts to start. Perhaps some actual discussion can take place then, instead of people visiting video on a daily basis to watch the "Days of our Lives" drama that is played out there daily, and which has for some time. When is the last time any of the above mentioned actually truely responded in a discussion to help out a forum member beyond trying to plug their favorite IHV and further any "agenda" they themselves might have.

I will never understand the corporate fanboy and desire to plug a certain product or company regardless of being paid or not, despite any faults that product might have. If anything those who do it for free are the worst type in my books, at least the ones getting hardware or real dollars are getting something in return for the drivel they post. Please resume endless bickering, witch hunts and name calling in the name of your favorite corporation, as I'm sure it will keep on continuing just like it has in the past for so long. If half the people in this thread truely cared about these forums as they have said, they would ban themselves.

Sounds good to me. Hell, if I'm too fanboyish then I'll even stop posting my opinions.

 

[rbV5]

Well, I think the major difference is that you disclose the fact that you are a beta tester. It even says it in your sig. I see no problem with that as long as people take your information with the "baggage."

To be fair, I added it to my sig when elitebastards broke the AEG story and Rollo started embellishing my involvement with ATI (I had it there previously as well, but removed it after I started getting too many PM's..not all were pleasant) I didn't want to have the appearance I was hiding that I was a beta tester for ATI (and others)
From this link
posted by Rollo
"The problem is that ATI does do this- RBV5 is not an employee of ATI, posts here, and will tell you if you ask him that ATI gives him free cards and software. Search threads where I've asked him, or just pm him if you don't believe me. I've known others over the years who have received free cards from ATI as well.

I don't necessarily discount them as being "shills", I sincerely doubt ATI says "RBV5, we'll give you 9800 if you pimp it big time".
They probably just say "Use it and post about it".

LOL- how many people would sell out for a video card? I've got some household chores to hire you for this summer if your price is that low. "

I, took offense and corrected him later in the thread, but in retrospect it looks as if he was attempting to deflect his involvement with AEG by embellishing my involvement with ATI as a beta tester.

There are some quotable Rollo gems in that thread, especialy now, and especially some personal insults he used against a few posters..... but I'll note that "ATI Beta Tester" made it to my sig, and that thread is dated Dec 03, 05, Rollo's AEG involvement never made it to his.


edit: added quotation marks to Rollo's quote.

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: Kalessian

Originally posted by: Sind
Long time lurker here, whats sad about all this is that Rollo makes some posts and the usual band of people follow him from thread to thread either a) trying to debunk him b) trolling themselves. Half the people in this thread complaining about him seem to add nothing to the video forum beyond following him around or "balancing arguements" from someone who supports some IHV. If AT wants to truely cleanup the video forum don't stop at Rollo, an approach much like HardOCP took is needed, with some actual dedicated moderation, and perhaps splitting of the forum into two sections would be a wise decision. As it is now, ban Rollo, Keysplayer, Appopin, munky, M0RPH, 5150_joker, RobertR1, Wreckage, crazydingo, nts to start. Perhaps some actual discussion can take place then, instead of people visiting video on a daily basis to watch the "Days of our Lives" drama that is played out there daily, and which has for some time. When is the last time any of the above mentioned actually truely responded in a discussion to help out a forum member beyond trying to plug their favorite IHV and further any "agenda" they themselves might have.

I will never understand the corporate fanboy and desire to plug a certain product or company regardless of being paid or not, despite any faults that product might have. If anything those who do it for free are the worst type in my books, at least the ones getting hardware or real dollars are getting something in return for the drivel they post. Please resume endless bickering, witch hunts and name calling in the name of your favorite corporation, as I'm sure it will keep on continuing just like it has in the past for so long. If half the people in this thread truely cared about these forums as they have said, they would ban themselves.

Sounds good to me. Hell, if I'm too fanboyish then I'll even stop posting my opinions.

Actually have banned myself - is hard to remember though. I like the anandtech vid forum as it gives people a chance to express preference and be fanboys, but the whole personal attack stuff just made me not like myself. So even though hardocp has become very tame, I still prefer that style. So I agree don't stop at Rollo, but that would be an excellent start. :beer:

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: Megatomic
This was sad but not unexpected. My vote goes to the mods cleaning house.

Yeah, Meg it is a sad day for the community. :thumbsdown:

I wish some of these other peeps could stick to the topic at hand. It's about AEG, not fanbois

I'm starting to wonder if some of these "newer members" posting in defense of AEG, and trying to change the debate to fanbois and beta testers aren't other AEG shills

Fern

 

[Zebo]

What's so bad about being AEG? Some advocate for free with zeal (poppin and you) at least AEG gets "paid" for it using lots more HW too.

Honestly if you can't read a post and see any attempt to present a balanced argument, from anyone, you need to move on since bias is seeping though paid or not- if you don't move on, it's your own fault.

I think guys like Keys and Ackmed are good examples of who you should be listening to. Both have thier prefernces but both present all the facts.

unsigned - until I see at least one good arguement why they should'nt be allowed. Bias? If we started just banning bias you'd be one of the first to go.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Sind
Long time lurker here, whats sad about all this is that Rollo makes some posts and the usual band of people follow him from thread to thread either a) trying to debunk him b) trolling themselves. Half the people in this thread complaining about him seem to add nothing to the video forum beyond following him around or "balancing arguements" from someone who supports some IHV. If AT wants to truely cleanup the video forum don't stop at Rollo, an approach much like HardOCP took is needed, with some actual dedicated moderation, and perhaps splitting of the forum into two sections would be a wise decision. As it is now, ban Rollo, Keysplayer, Appopin, munky, M0RPH, 5150_joker, RobertR1, Wreckage, crazydingo, nts to start. Perhaps some actual discussion can take place then, instead of people visiting video on a daily basis to watch the "Days of our Lives" drama that is played out there daily, and which has for some time. When is the last time any of the above mentioned actually truely responded in a discussion to help out a forum member beyond trying to plug their favorite IHV and further any "agenda" they themselves might have.

I will never understand the corporate fanboy and desire to plug a certain product or company regardless of being paid or not, despite any faults that product might have. If anything those who do it for free are the worst type in my books, at least the ones getting hardware or real dollars are getting something in return for the drivel they post. Please resume endless bickering, witch hunts and name calling in the name of your favorite corporation, as I'm sure it will keep on continuing just like it has in the past for so long. If half the people in this thread truely cared about these forums as they have said, they would ban themselves.

Excellent post I agree 100% with this. Dedicated mods who show no hesitation to start banning. This place is about helping - not pimping. So About 90% of posts in Video should be locked anyway.