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Kev

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Hey guys, I need some feedback on your thoughts about the Escalation expansion pack. Is it worth getting? My friend got the first expansion and he immediately uninstalled it. He said the maps were terrible. I heard the same from others. I don't want to waste my money ... so is Escalation a must have or not?

I think the new maps are worse, I just have a negative gut reaction every time one of them comes up. They're too big and people play like vaginas on them for the most part.

The first map pack I actually like, and even kowloon grew on me. But zoo, hotel, and especially convoy all make me cringe.
 

fbrdphreak

Lifer
Apr 17, 2004
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I don't find Zoo so bad, and Hotel has very few camping places and has consistent routes to watch for people. Convoy is horrible for camping and lots of flanking though, I too despise it though have learned to play around that. Stockpile is a lot of fun for me, esp running around with my Spas 12.
 

digiram

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Apr 17, 2004
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I don't find Zoo so bad, and Hotel has very few camping places and has consistent routes to watch for people. Convoy is horrible for camping and lots of flanking though, I too despise it though have learned to play around that. Stockpile is a lot of fun for me, esp running around with my Spas 12.

I don't know about that. Have you ever run around the back in the Hotel, only to have a guy ghosted and hidden under the plants shoot you?
 

drbrock

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anyone have any experience with the galil slienced. I was watching a youtube commentary that was saying it is the best gun silienced. I am currently running the AK47 silenced but was thinking of making a switch. Any thoughts?
 

Kabob

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I've used it but honestly I like the AK more than the Galil. I will say, the Galil is probably the best all around rifle up until you unlock the AK, but I'm biased against the AUG and FAMAS (I just can't use 'em).

Try it, if it works out for ya then switch, if not then stay.
 

fbrdphreak

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Galil is pretty good silenced, but the lower fire rate can be a hinderance; also the reload time is long with dual mags or Sleight of Hand. I find the Commando to be a good balance of fire rate, accuracy, and reload time.

In the end, the guns are so similar in BO it is largely up to personal preference.
 

Kev

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I think the commando is the best silenced gun, galil 2nd. Commando silenced IMO is better than unsilenced.
 

BD2003

Lifer
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I've used it but honestly I like the AK more than the Galil. I will say, the Galil is probably the best all around rifle up until you unlock the AK, but I'm biased against the AUG and FAMAS (I just can't use 'em).

Try it, if it works out for ya then switch, if not then stay.

Yeah, I have a great deal easier time using the guns that evenly spray (aug, ak, commando) than the ones that kick to the side (the rest).
 

fbrdphreak

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I think the commando is the best silenced gun, galil 2nd. Commando silenced IMO is better than unsilenced.
Unless you're trying to win long distance gun fights. Silenced guns at distance take longer to kill unless you're super accurate, which is easier with a sight of course.
 

drbrock

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cool thanks for the heads up. I might switch to the commando. and give that a whirl. I just have a hard time dealing with the low damage of that gun. I win way more fights with the ak than the commando. It is prob cause I suck, i usually only go 1-3 kd ratio a match
 

Kabob

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I think the AK is better than the Commando personally but that's just me. I know that their recoil patterns are identical but I like the sight picture from the AK more.
 

BD2003

Lifer
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I think the AK is better than the Commando personally but that's just me. I know that their recoil patterns are identical but I like the sight picture from the AK more.

Yeah, I find the iron sights on the ak ever so slightly better as well.
 

digiram

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I think the AK is better than the Commando personally but that's just me. I know that their recoil patterns are identical but I like the sight picture from the AK more.

AK is also stronger. I think the commando is way too weak. It would be a great gun if sp were around to give it a chance against the galil or ak.

My typical routine is m16 --> galil --> ak47. I'll use all of other guns in between, but those are my bread n butter.
 

digiram

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cool thanks for the heads up. I might switch to the commando. and give that a whirl. I just have a hard time dealing with the low damage of that gun. I win way more fights with the ak than the commando. It is prob cause I suck, i usually only go 1-3 kd ratio a match

Expect to burn an entire clip to take someone out with a silenced commando unless they are at close range.
 

Kev

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Yeah I should mention I pretty much gave up on silenced weapons. They're just too weak, and if you have a bad connection they're almost worthless.
 

BD2003

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AK is also stronger. I think the commando is way too weak. It would be a great gun if sp were around to give it a chance against the galil or ak.

My typical routine is m16 --> galil --> ak47. I'll use all of other guns in between, but those are my bread n butter.

Everything I've ever seen is that the ak and commando are *exactly* the same strength. Exact same as galil as well.
 

Kabob

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He's right, #'s wise the AK and Commando have the same damage, same recoil spread, etc. The reload time is faster on the Commando, I "think" the bullet penetration is better on the AK but I'm not sure.
 

digiram

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Everything I've ever seen is that the ak and commando are *exactly* the same strength. Exact same as galil as well.

Impossible, everytime I've used the commando, I can't kill a thing..especially with a silencer on it. It seems to take a lot more bullets to kill anything with it. This is agreed upon by everyone that I play with, even those that use it frequently.
 

Kabob

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By the hard #'s they both do 40-30 damage and have the same range. I'm sure the chart has been posted somewhere on this thread.

*edit* found it.

Damage charts taken from the PC version:


Spent alot of time with the game over the past two days...by FAR the biggest issue is the lobby system. It's absolutely atrocious. I understand that it's a launch and there are alot of people playing, but I have NEVER had issues like these on a 360 game, even with the terrible Gears of War 2 setup. I bet half my time is spent trying to get INTO a game with my party...so frusterating.

I am enjoying the game alot, there's a few issues I still have but it's fun. My KDR is terrible compared to MW2 simply because I cannot seem to slow down and take it at a slow pace, I am still trying to run and gun which is getting me slaughtered. But in the end who cares, I had more fun being cannon fodder trying to capture the "B" flag on Nuke Town than I have in a while, good stuff.
 
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BD2003

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Penetration and damage is still the same based on the most recent chart. And while I'm inclined to favor the chart over anyones anecdotes, it has been slightly modified over time to reflect some very slight differences that arent reflected in that early version.

This is also one of my bigger pet peeves that I'd like to see addressed. This game is played by millions of people, and a lot of people take it seriously to the point where they care about these things. IW/Treyarch should post the real, official stats and not force people to extract stats from the PC version and assume they reflect the console version. People shouldnt have to recoil fire against the wall to test, and for the life of me I cannot figure out why the in-game stat bars literally lie about the guns.

Its a small thing that would make a big difference to a lot of people. If theyre serious about supporting a community that is going to be paying subscriptions, this should be something they consider doing. And keep it up to date as they patch changes. They changed the AK-74u with a patch. How? Who knows! Nobody but them and they dont care to say. This kind of thing would be unacceptable in WoW, Starcraft or any other game taken seriously by millions.
 

fbrdphreak

Lifer
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Impossible, everytime I've used the commando, I can't kill a thing..especially with a silencer on it. It seems to take a lot more bullets to kill anything with it. This is agreed upon by everyone that I play with, even those that use it frequently.
Well, if you say it's impossible, it must be so. :awe:
 

smackababy

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Oct 30, 2008
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Actually picked this up again recently. Haven't played in quite a while. Anyone up for some domination or tdm? I won't play hardcore simply because I dislike how campy it is and the pacing is too slow for run and gun. I play like I'm John Rambo and just run around so Hardcore is hit or miss with me.
 

Duder1no

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So I got to level 50 and activated Prestige level and started all over from level 1, I am now up to level 47 so my question is there any incentive to do it all over again once i get to level 50 again or is it not worthy to restart all over again?
 

Kabob

Lifer
Sep 5, 2004
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For me the restarting is what keeps it interesting. If there were no prestiging I'd have stopped playing long ago. Starting from sq 1 and earning your gear back (and being "the underdog" in the process) is where it's at!

But if you don't play a lot then no, it's probably not worth doing again if you want to keep all your gear.
 
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