Call of Duty: Black Ops

[RavenSEAL]

Went 42-9 on a demo game @ summit

 

[SunnyD]

Starting to get the feel for it. I have my share of 1:12 games, but I am starting to have 1.0+ games too. I actually had a 5 kill streak this morning and had a 1.73 ratio on that map.

 

[blurredvision]

I decided to go ahead and get the campaign out of the way this morning since I had absolutely no plans for today. I started it right around 11:00am, played straight until about 3pm, and took a 30 minute break for a shower and to throw some stuff in the washer. Continued back around 3:30 and the credits rolled at about 4:35pm. A very short campaign as is usual with high-profile FPS games these days, but about 5 hours is perfect for me here since I typically start to tire of the constant battles that CoD throws at you.

Overall, I really liked the story and how they presented it, much more so than MW1 or MW2. To anyone who said they could see the whole thing coming, you're full of shit. I do like how they tried to switch up the same old gameplay from previous iterations a bit by introducing new game mechanics here and there, much like how Reach did. The regular shooting that makes up the majority of the game is getting a bit long in the tooth though. I'm starting to hate it actually.

 

[coldmeat]

Wow the one in the chamber wager mode is intense. I lost my first one with only 1 kill because I was playing stupid, then won the next with 6 or 7 kills. I also played Nuketown again and went 13:0. I really like that map.

 

[RavenSEAL]

Wow the one in the chamber wager mode is intense. I lost my first one with only 1 kill because I was playing stupid, then won the next with 6 or 7 kills. I also played Nuketown again and went 13:0. I really like that map.

Nuketown is awesome :awe:


I went 34-1 with Dual Pythons

 

[dougp]

I'm trying to figure out why they even put sniper rifles in this game. I've yet to play a map that was open enough for a SR to be effective.

Plus the spawning system is god awful. I know in MW2 some times you'd kill someone then turn a corner and they were right there, but damn I'll move 20 ft from where I just spawned and there's already other players spawning behind me.

I've used them rather effectively on multiple maps. I believe it all lies in your skill set, and the tactics of the other team. If you're playing on a rush heavy team, a good sniper gives them great cover or can monitor a base so others can do something else.

 

[bucwylde23]

I pretty much like all the maps, except for when I get stuck in a Nuketown loop.

I'm really loving this game so far, MW2 I gave up on pretty quickly, I can see myself playing this for a long time.

 

[gorcorps]

Wow the one in the chamber wager mode is intense. I lost my first one with only 1 kill because I was playing stupid, then won the next with 6 or 7 kills. I also played Nuketown again and went 13:0. I really like that map.

Agreed. I've only played 2 rounds of it and placed 2nd both times, but I really enjoyed both times. Only other wager mode I've tried is gun game and that's great too. I really don't like that they're only available as wager matches though. I like the modes enough to want to play them, but don't care to lay down money. I know 10 points isn't much of anything, but the fact that I basically have to virtually pay to play every time is retarded. Worse still, it makes it so you can't play these modes in local multiplayer (at least we couldn't find them when I was with friends).

 

[dougp]

That was a lot of fun tonight, a few of us got sick of the MP lobby issues so we did some FFA on Nuketown and then did some tomahawk and ballistic knife matches on the map w/ the white trailer (training?) ... Lots of fun!

 

[Powermoloch]

I love the campaign, the MP is meh, but fun. The maps are great, i hate nuketown tho.

 

[SunnyD]

That was a lot of fun tonight, a few of us got sick of the MP lobby issues so we did some FFA on Nuketown and then did some tomahawk and ballistic knife matches on the map w/ the white trailer (training?) ... Lots of fun!

25:57...

But man doug, I had fun trying to chase your ass down. Repeatedly.

 

[Cuda1447]

Note to self: Queasy hides in the weirdest places.

 

[Queasy]

Note to self: Queasy hides in the weirdest places.

Nobody expects Queasy from a hole in the wall!

I realized that there was something up with my connection last night that was causing me to lose all the head-to-head knife fight battles so I had to resort to finding places to hide and ambush people as they ran by.

Oh, and that thing that was wrong. My wife had kicked off a torrent download without me knowing. That also must have been what caused me to lose my connection to LIVE and drop out of the match. :/

 

[BD2003]

is all you unlock for prestiging the extra class slots? More challenges maybe? Was hoping to see real reason for prestiging other than the class slots

All you get is extra class slots for now. There might be some other small bonus down the line, but itll probably be insignificant.

i dont really know what else you would add game type wise. you have pretty much the CTF, plant bombs, just kill, FFA. What other type of game modes would you like? Nothing pops into my mind so im just curious is all.

They could have made the wager modes into regular XP gaining gametypes instead of relegating them to the wager match ghetto. They also could have made team based variants. Something new, something fresh.

Sadly i felt it was the same way in MW2 though. you had the guns everyone used. ACR, AK47, M4 where the main guns for the AR. Guns like the FAL just didnt get used. Pretty much everyone still ran the same guns as they were the best. With the homogenizing at least you can see people using other guns instead of everyone sing the ACR. To me its the same as MW2 but with the guns being nearly equal theres a greater chance that not everyone will use the exact same gun.

You realize the irony there in the last sentence? You dont want everyone to use the same gun. But everyone is using the same gun, cause theyre all the same. So theyre basically just model swaps. I cant see how this is an improvement in any way.

i do agree, the maps are kind of meh. They all feel the same to me. Nuketown gets played over and over cause it the fast action people like more than its "predictable". Same reason people liked maps liek scrapyard in MW2. You dont run around looking for people you know where they are. The other maps just all feel close to the same design with different background. Plenty of options for bypassing around buildings with lots of buildings to duck into. Hopefully a map pack will come out sooner than later offering more variaty.

And the maps are like the guns. Very slight variations on the same theme. Now that I've gotten to know them they make a little more sense, but theyre designed SO carelessly. Bends, curves, buildings etc are just thrown around seemingly randomly. There's no underlying theme, no reason for me to say I want to play this one or that one. Thats why its nuketown and everything else. Nuketown makes sense.

 

[RavenSEAL]

4 levels away from prestige...boy that was fast...

 

[bucwylde23]

4 levels away from prestige...boy that was fast...

Yeah I prestiged yesterday, currently at level 26-27 or so I think. Seems like it goes by pretty fast. I guess it's because of all the challenges that there are to complete.

 

[JoPh]

what do u think about using rapid fire on the ak74u to pick up for the slow rate of fire..

 

[velillen]

You realize the irony there in the last sentence? You dont want everyone to use the same gun. But everyone is using the same gun, cause theyre all the same. So theyre basically just model swaps. I cant see how this is an improvement in any way.

I said i porrly. The jist im saying whether its MW2 or BO everyone uses the same gun anyways, be it skin change (BO) or just cause its physically a better gun (MW2). Even if they made one gun better then everyone would just use it (ala MW2 with AR's and SMG's)

But o well its more or less a moot point. As much as id like a uber, kill everyone type AR it would just be to imbalanced


And my god i HATE nuketown so freakin much >.<

 

[Anubis]

what do u think about using rapid fire on the ak74u to pick up for the slow rate of fire..

i have a class with it that i only run with on nuketown, its really effective but you run out of ammo really fucking fast

 

[Malak]

I said i porrly. The jist im saying whether its MW2 or BO everyone uses the same gun anyways, be it skin change (BO) or just cause its physically a better gun (MW2). Even if they made one gun better then everyone would just use it (ala MW2 with AR's and SMG's)

But o well its more or less a moot point. As much as id like a uber, kill everyone type AR it would just be to imbalanced


And my god i HATE nuketown so freakin much >.<

I can tell a difference between the guns. If you can't tell, you probably aren't very good at the game. For AR's I feel most comfortable and do best with the FAMAS. I don't really touch the other guns much so I can't say what I like most with other types.

 

[foghorn67]

I'm on the verge of saying the MP sucks. Graphics took two steps backwards. I really don't place an importance on this, but it's distracting.
Maps were designed by children.
Spawn points are the worst since Battlefield 1942. So yeah, Treyarch went 8 years into the past to find the dumbest way.

 

[blurredvision]

I'm really confused by everyone saying the graphics have taken a step back. I think they look just as good as previous efforts in the series.

 

[RavenSEAL]

I'm on the verge of saying the MP sucks. Graphics took two steps backwards. I really don't place an importance on this, but it's distracting.
Maps were designed by children.
Spawn points are the worst since Battlefield 1942. So yeah, Treyarch went 8 years into the past to find the dumbest way.

Hey, it's ok, you suck @ CoD, that's understandable.

 

[BD2003]

I said i porrly. The jist im saying whether its MW2 or BO everyone uses the same gun anyways, be it skin change (BO) or just cause its physically a better gun (MW2). Even if they made one gun better then everyone would just use it (ala MW2 with AR's and SMG's)

But o well its more or less a moot point. As much as id like a uber, kill everyone type AR it would just be to imbalanced


And my god i HATE nuketown so freakin much >.<

The famas is the uber full-auto AR. Mathematically it kills quickest, and has some of the lowest recoil and the best iron sights. The g11 completely outclasses the m16 in every shape form or fashion other than the ability to add a silencer. The m14 with vertical recoil is clearly superior to the FAL with horizontal recoil. And the ak74u is easily the best SMG by far, the spectre being fairly close in a different way. The LMGs have more of a differentiation between them at least.

This isnt my opinion, this is pure mathematics based on the stats. See the problem here? You claim MW2 had the uber-AR, but it really didnt. You felt really comfortable with the ACR, but I preferred the TAR-21 in many situations due to higher bullet damage and fire rate. Unlike MW2, or any other previous CoD BO really does have weapons that are simply better than the others. Right now the game is too new for most people who arent aware of the charts to have figured this out, but after a few weeks, all youre going to see is the g11, famas, ak74 and the m14, not because people prefer the style, but its what people are going to need to use because theyre simply better than the rest.

They made a double mistake here, by not differentiating the guns enough, AND making some mathematically better than the others. Its a total fuckup IMO. At least its not just a single super weapon like the MP40 in WaW, now I have a choice of 3-4.

 

[velillen]

I can tell a difference between the guns. If you can't tell, you probably aren't very good at the game. For AR's I feel most comfortable and do best with the FAMAS. I don't really touch the other guns much so I can't say what I like most with other types.

Guess i suck then. i cant tell a difference between the full auto AR's, the semi autos, and burst AR's. Obviously i can tell a difference in say the FAMAS vs FAL. But going from FAMAS to AUG or Galil i don't notice anything other than the different iron sites.

This isnt my opinion, this is pure mathematics based on the stats. See the problem here? You claim MW2 had the uber-AR, but it really didnt. You felt really comfortable with the ACR, but I preferred the TAR-21 in many situations due to higher bullet damage and fire rate. Unlike MW2, or any other previous CoD BO really does have weapons that are simply better than the others. Right now the game is too new for most people who arent aware of the charts to have figured this out, but after a few weeks, all youre going to see is the g11, famas, ak74 and the m14, not because people prefer the style, but its what people are going to need to use because theyre simply better than the rest.

I actually really liked the SCAR in MW2. i just went out of ammo to fast and couldnt get used to that part. I didnt want to have to run scavenger either so thats when i went with the m4 or acr. Tried the fal but there again i just was to slow. Loved it at med-long range but closer i just was terrible and lost every fight up close.

All i see now is FAMAS anyways. Or the mass majority of them. Even without scavenger i think theres been one game ive really run out of ammo.

O well guess i havent been able to play nearly as much as the rest of you to be able to notice all the changes in the guns. I dont feel much difference going from one to the other (via picking up in game) but thats just me. So o well you guys can fight it out as to which is mathematically the best and ill just keep having fun messing around and come back and see what you say is the best to use and give it a go