Call of Duty: Black Ops

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RavenSEAL

Diamond Member
Jan 4, 2010
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I'm thinking about holding back on prestige for now...having too much fun with recently unlocked weapons...and it really doesn't seem to be worth it...what to do, what to do...
 

Kev

Lifer
Dec 17, 2001
16,367
4
81
The famas is the uber full-auto AR. Mathematically it kills quickest, and has some of the lowest recoil and the best iron sights. The g11 completely outclasses the m16 in every shape form or fashion other than the ability to add a silencer. The m14 with vertical recoil is clearly superior to the FAL with horizontal recoil. And the ak74u is easily the best SMG by far, the spectre being fairly close in a different way. The LMGs have more of a differentiation between them at least.

This isnt my opinion, this is pure mathematics based on the stats. See the problem here? You claim MW2 had the uber-AR, but it really didnt. You felt really comfortable with the ACR, but I preferred the TAR-21 in many situations due to higher bullet damage and fire rate. Unlike MW2, or any other previous CoD BO really does have weapons that are simply better than the others. Right now the game is too new for most people who arent aware of the charts to have figured this out, but after a few weeks, all youre going to see is the g11, famas, ak74 and the m14, not because people prefer the style, but its what people are going to need to use because theyre simply better than the rest.

They made a double mistake here, by not differentiating the guns enough, AND making some mathematically better than the others. Its a total fuckup IMO. At least its not just a single super weapon like the MP40 in WaW, now I have a choice of 3-4.

I'm starting to get the impression that you don't like this game
 

BD2003

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
16,815
1
81
Kev said:
I'm starting to get the impression that you don't like this game

Like I said, the shine is wearing off quick. It's introduced as many annoyances of it's own as mw2 did.
 

bucwylde23

Diamond Member
Apr 21, 2005
4,180
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I don't buy it that people are going to only be using the same 3-4 guns. I cycle through every single gun in the AR/LMG classes to complete the challenges and do equally as well with each.
Each handles a bit differently and you have to adjust your playing style a bit sometimes.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
80,287
17,078
136
I don't buy it that people are going to only be using the same 3-4 guns. I cycle through every single gun in the AR/LMG classes to complete the challenges and do equally as well with each.
Each handles a bit differently and you have to adjust your playing style a bit sometimes.

One might argue that having challenges and achievements is the only reason most people bother playing with things they dont like.
For example, I might argue that.

:awe:
 

AznAnarchy99

Lifer
Dec 6, 2004
14,695
117
106
Like I said, the shine is wearing off quick. It's introduced as many annoyances of it's own as mw2 did.

From a PC standpoint its miles ahead.

Console commands are back.
Dedicated servers are back.
No more commando/lightweight.
No more Danger Close/OMA
No more stopping power
No more stacking kill streaks
No more nukes
No underbarrels/ADS attachments
No more shield
No more shotgun primaries

Thats what I got off the top of my head.

Minor annoyances would probably be the RC cars for people but Ive never had it that bad since I pay attention when they are out and I keep my sound up to hear when its coming.

I dont know about you but the M16 with stopping power dominated MW2. 1 kill bursts? Combine that with the Akimbo '87s at the time, I hit 10 nukes in 1 day. Although they nerfed those shotguns/akimbo g18s just took its place.
 

Malak

Lifer
Dec 4, 2004
14,696
2
0
I'm thinking about holding back on prestige for now...having too much fun with recently unlocked weapons...and it really doesn't seem to be worth it...what to do, what to do...

Since I like the FAMAS so much, I figure I'll prestige every time.
 

coldmeat

Diamond Member
Jul 10, 2007
9,194
79
91
I'm trying to get Hardline pro and the 7 kill streak, and 7 killstreaks in 1 match were pretty easy to get, but I'm having a hard time sharing 10 care packages. Nobody will take it. I'm sitting there with my mic on telling everyone to take it, but they keep spawning on me then running away. Some people turn around, look at it, then run away as if I booby trapped it. So I sit there defending it til I get rushed by the enemy then they take it. I need to play with people that aren't retards.

Oh, and RC cars are starting to get to me. Even if I can hear it coming there's usually nothing I can do before it kills me. Unless you can see it coming for a while and shoot at it, there's no way to defend against it. Sometimes I have to use my claymores as a trap, but usually I hear it coming and it's too late to switch and place one.
 

coldmeat

Diamond Member
Jul 10, 2007
9,194
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Also, call me shallow or whatever but I really love all the challenges and all the xp I get. I like how I complete a bunch of challenges in every match, and how every kill isn't just a kill but a payback, avenge, rescue, or buzzkill. I never played MW2 so this is the first game I've played that's been like that.
 

Kev

Lifer
Dec 17, 2001
16,367
4
81
I'm trying to get Hardline pro and the 7 kill streak, and 7 killstreaks in 1 match were pretty easy to get, but I'm having a hard time sharing 10 care packages. Nobody will take it. I'm sitting there with my mic on telling everyone to take it, but they keep spawning on me then running away. Some people turn around, look at it, then run away as if I booby trapped it. So I sit there defending it til I get rushed by the enemy then they take it. I need to play with people that aren't retards.

Oh, and RC cars are starting to get to me. Even if I can hear it coming there's usually nothing I can do before it kills me. Unless you can see it coming for a while and shoot at it, there's no way to defend against it. Sometimes I have to use my claymores as a trap, but usually I hear it coming and it's too late to switch and place one.

Just play with a buddy and have him pick them all up. I did it the other night in about 2 hrs. You should equip SAM Turret, Care Package, and Sentry Gun because sharing all 3 will count towards your total.
 

coldmeat

Diamond Member
Jul 10, 2007
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I don't have any friends that have the game. I had to give up a chopper gunner earlier just so I could get +1 shared.

I just loaded a match in theater mode, because I got a sweet 4 kill valkyrie, and ever since then the game has been running like shit. It's a slideshow whenever there's enemies on the screen, or I run into an open area.
 

Stuxnet

Diamond Member
Jun 16, 2005
8,392
1
0
This is getting really irritating. I had a match where I was 14 - 1 and the host quit. I just had another where I was 7 - 1 and the host quit.

Can't they make a game that little girl statwhores can't ruin?
 

AznAnarchy99

Lifer
Dec 6, 2004
14,695
117
106
This is getting really irritating. I had a match where I was 14 - 1 and the host quit. I just had another where I was 7 - 1 and the host quit.

Can't they make a game that little girl statwhores can't ruin?

Dedicated servers baby WOO

Yes I know Im in the console gaming forum =D
 

Queasy

Moderator<br>Console Gaming
Aug 24, 2001
31,796
2
0
I just loaded a match in theater mode, because I got a sweet 4 kill valkyrie, and ever since then the game has been running like shit. It's a slideshow whenever there's enemies on the screen, or I run into an open area.

Yeah, it's driving me up the wall. I was showing 4 bars on my connection in-game but kept getting killed by people warping around the map in one match.
 

Malak

Lifer
Dec 4, 2004
14,696
2
0
I can't figure out how hardline pro works. How do you change a care package? No option shows up when I look at one. I've checked mine and another person's.
 

coldmeat

Diamond Member
Jul 10, 2007
9,194
79
91
I can't figure out how hardline pro works. How do you change a care package? No option shows up when I look at one. I've checked mine and another person's.

you have to buy it. Go into the create a class, and to the perk and it costs $3000. Then when it's equiped just double tap X to change the package.
 

JoPh

Diamond Member
Aug 8, 2002
7,312
1
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thumbs up to raven for carrying the team!

and i think i found the gun i like. the galil or whatevers its called.

seems to be the one im doing the best with now.
 

RavenSEAL

Diamond Member
Jan 4, 2010
8,661
3
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I can't figure out how hardline pro works. How do you change a care package? No option shows up when I look at one. I've checked mine and another person's.
If you already purchase it, when you go near to a care package, just double tap Square/X.
 

fatpat268

Diamond Member
Jan 14, 2006
5,853
0
71
i havent unlocked any pro things yet.. so much harder this time.

The easiest one to unlock is Hardline Pro... and it has one of the best pro additions, especially if you use SAM Turret, Care Package, and Sentry Gun as your killstreaks.
 

BD2003

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
16,815
1
81
Yep, and the second roll has a better chance for a higher killstreak. It's a reroll so if you get a mortar team at first you might downgrade to an rc-xd, but the tables are shifted to give you better killstreaks on the second try. I've turned a sam, sentry and CP to mortars blackbird and chopper gunner once. It doesn't always happen that way, but Hardline pro is in general disgustingly overpowered.
 
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