Call of Duty: Black Ops

Page 56 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

Kabob

Lifer
Sep 5, 2004
15,248
0
76
Oh, 95% of the time my car runs fine too, but it's those few times it doesn't that stick with you. I'm not sure I'd even call it 95% effective though.
 

DrunkenSano

Diamond Member
Aug 8, 2008
3,892
490
126
But you've named one occasion out of several hundred if not thousand spawns that you and others around you experienced. There's no way it can be 100% effective. It's annoying when a crap spawn does happen, but 95%+ of the time your spawn is fine.

I would have to disagree with 95%. It also varies by maps, on larger maps the issue isn't that big of a problem, but on small maps like Nuketown, the problem is ridiculous.
 

Stuxnet

Diamond Member
Jun 16, 2005
8,392
1
0
Here are my impressions so far. To give a little background:

- Call of Duty 4: THE bar for multiplayer gaming. I was hooked from the beta all the way through MW2's release when the player count took a huge dip.

- World at War: This game was absolutely awful. The maps were the worst aspect, followed closely by poor animations, poor sound, and vehicles that were shoehorned in.

- Modern Warfare 2: A somewhat enjoyable experience, but bad map design reared its ugly head. They tried to do too much with this game and somewhere along the line it ceased being a shooter. "Moosefuck" accurately describes any given match.

Okay, Black Ops:"

- Maps: Not quite as well designed as most of Call of Duty 4's maps, but I'm quite happy with them. I think they have great scale and good chokepoints.

- Weapons: Reading through the thread I can see there's a minority who think they're all too similar. I think they're different enough to have some variety without compromising balance. I honestly don't have any problems with what they've done. I also don't care about what's "mathematically this-that-or-the-other", because the bottom line doesn't account for player skill, any given map... For instance some people are saying the FAMAS is the best gun, but with its up-and-right kick I can't use it to save my life. I think the AK74 is the best SMG but I still see tons of people using the MP5. Maybe there's something about that gun that works for them.

- Perks: They came up with a near perfect perk formula. I can't think of a single thing I'd change other than being able to roll sentries and SAMs. But with the frequency of UAVs (which I still use), anyone not using Ghost is at a serious disadvantage, so maybe they did that to make Hardline Pro more attractive.

- Killstreaks: I have the same thoughts here as I do with the perks. Modern Warfare 2 got so frustrating because it was all about the killstreaks. Even with all of the Hardline Pro users out there rolling 3 different crates, I don't feel like the skies are full of terror. I haven't unlocked Ghost Pro yet but I've managed to keep my hide out of site from whatever is in the air. They're useful and fun to get, but they don't dominate the game like they did in Modern Warfare 2 and that's how it should be.

- Spawning: Spawning seems a helluva lot better to me than it did in Modern Warfare 2 and World at War. It actually feels similar to Call of Duty 4's spawning. I don't see any problems here at all.

So far this is my favorite Call of Duty. Even more than Call of Duty 4. I think this is what Modern Warfare should have been had they not overshot the idea of "bigger better more".

Ghost
Steady Aim / Sleight of Hand
Second Chance Pro
AK74 w/silencer or M203

Look out
2.39 kill/death overall and 2.36 this week
 

Stuxnet

Diamond Member
Jun 16, 2005
8,392
1
0
I would have to disagree with 95%. It also varies by maps, on larger maps the issue isn't that big of a problem, but on small maps like Nuketown, the problem is ridiculous.

Nuketown is a cage match. Of course the spawning will suck there
 

Malak

Lifer
Dec 4, 2004
14,696
2
0
But you've named one occasion out of several hundred if not thousand spawns that you and others around you experienced. There's no way it can be 100% effective. It's annoying when a crap spawn does happen, but 95%+ of the time your spawn is fine.

I had never, ever in MW2 spawned literally within feet of someone from the opposing side. I have done this almost every time I play BO. They screwed up the spawn intelligence somehow. Now, if someone goes rambo flanking in MW2, they can potentially be near their spawn point. But this is ongoing in BO and I have spawned right behind multiple enemies while my entire team was on the other side of the map.
 

Malak

Lifer
Dec 4, 2004
14,696
2
0
I don't see many people running hardline pro. Most people seem to be running ghost or scavenger. I have people freak out on me when I change my care packages and they're trying to get them, or I tell someone I can swap theirs for them if they'd like.

But yes, it is seriously OP.

I don't understand why people don't run hardline pro, but maybe they got used to not using it in MW2 that they don't realize what it can do in BO. I also rarely see any care packages, but then I assume it's because everyone seems to be playing shitty right now.
 

Stuxnet

Diamond Member
Jun 16, 2005
8,392
1
0
I had never, ever in MW2 spawned literally within feet of someone from the opposing side. I have done this almost every time I play BO. They screwed up the spawn intelligence somehow. Now, if someone goes rambo flanking in MW2, they can potentially be near their spawn point. But this is ongoing in BO and I have spawned right behind multiple enemies while my entire team was on the other side of the map.

Oddly I had a polar opposite experience in MW2 and just haven't had any spawn problems with Black Ops.
 

Possessed Freak

Diamond Member
Nov 4, 1999
6,045
1
0
I would have to disagree with 95%. It also varies by maps, on larger maps the issue isn't that big of a problem, but on small maps like Nuketown, the problem is ridiculous.

This. I was watching a winning killcam last night. I got to watch the guy spawn looking at the hapless last kill IN HIS SIGHTS. Quick burst and it was all over. Nuketown might be too small of a map for safe spawns but I have seen this happen in all of the maps.

Trying to state these are results of tactical insertions is ludicrous.

I have been rocking the M14/FAL. I love knowing that I will rarely run out of ammo when 2 shots center mass take down targets. Of course this really throws me off when I fire two into them and they don't drop. There have been cases when I am already on to the next target and I die to a 1911. I also noticed my accuracy is through the roof (for me) in this game compared to MW2.
 

Stuxnet

Diamond Member
Jun 16, 2005
8,392
1
0
I don't understand why people don't run hardline pro, but maybe they got used to not using it in MW2 that they don't realize what it can do in BO. I also rarely see any care packages, but then I assume it's because everyone seems to be playing shitty right now.

see below

Ghost Pro is as valuable as Hardline Pro in my opinion.

When that UAV goes up and I'm running with my silenced AK is is house cleaning time. As nice as Hardline Pro is I wouldn't trade Ghost for anything. I think it's the single most valuable perk.
 

dougp

Diamond Member
May 3, 2002
7,909
4
0
I don't understand why people don't run hardline pro, but maybe they got used to not using it in MW2 that they don't realize what it can do in BO. I also rarely see any care packages, but then I assume it's because everyone seems to be playing shitty right now.

Oh, if only you could play with me. I'm pretty much guarantee'd an RC-XD every time I'm alive, and I save them all for the end of a match. I believe I let loose about 10 cars one game - probably annoyed the fuck out of the people trying to capture a point to win the game, but oh well. I'm tired of not abusing a mechanic that's there.
 

Possessed Freak

Diamond Member
Nov 4, 1999
6,045
1
0
I had never, ever in MW2 spawned literally within feet of someone from the opposing side. I have done this almost every time I play BO. They screwed up the spawn intelligence somehow. Now, if someone goes rambo flanking in MW2, they can potentially be near their spawn point. But this is ongoing in BO and I have spawned right behind multiple enemies while my entire team was on the other side of the map.

While I posted about this above, I will share this one anecdote. On nuketown I spawned in a flower garden as I switched weapons to my crossbow, an enemy spawned in the yard in front of me. I stuck him with my bow. 2 more enemies spawned next to him. Instant multi-kill care package. I died a split second later.
 

Stuxnet

Diamond Member
Jun 16, 2005
8,392
1
0
I tried "One in the Chamber" last night and thought it was pretty fun. I'd really like to see a "Sniper Dual" game type under wager matches. Make it 1v1 and each player gets the sniper rifle of their choice and one lethal equipment like a claymore or a frag. No secondary weapon at all and no time limit. First kill wins and the game selects a new opponent.
 

Malak

Lifer
Dec 4, 2004
14,696
2
0
When that UAV goes up and I'm running with my silenced AK is is house cleaning time. As nice as Hardline Pro is I wouldn't trade Ghost for anything. I think it's the single most valuable perk.

I don't need ghost though, I have a SAM turret up ALWAYS. There is no spy plane in my games. Hardline > Ghost
 

Kabob

Lifer
Sep 5, 2004
15,248
0
76
I don't need ghost though, I have a SAM turret up ALWAYS. There is no spy plane in my games. Hardline > Ghost

On top of that, out of 3 care packages using Hardline Pro I got 2 SR-71's which circumvent the Ghost's invisibility. It was great since all but 1 enemy decided Ghost was the way to go.

SR-71 may be my favorite killstreak reward.
 

coldmeat

Diamond Member
Jul 10, 2007
9,194
79
91
I usually use hardline pro, steady aim pro, and hacker pro. I can't really find a better 3rd perk than hacker, since none of them really seem that good to me. Being able to spot enemy claymore and sam turrets is really nice.

I usually keep two classes with the same weapons, except one has ghost the other has hardline. If I find there's lots of enemy spy planes Ill switch to ghost but I find hardline a lot more fun.

edit: I find myself using steady aim less and less, mostly using ADS to shoot. I should probably trade out steady aim for something else, at least with my assault rifles.
 
Last edited:

dougp

Diamond Member
May 3, 2002
7,909
4
0
I usually use hardline pro, steady aim pro, and hacker pro. I can't really find a better 3rd perk than hacker, since none of them really seem that good to me. Being able to spot enemy claymore and sam turrets is really nice.

I usually keep two classes with the same weapons, except one has ghost the other has hardline. If I find there's lots of enemy spy planes Ill switch to ghost but I find hardline a lot more fun.

edit: I find myself using steady aim less and less, mostly using ADS to shoot. I should probably trade out steady aim for something else, at least with my assault rifles.

SoH (if not using dual mags) and Warlord. I find it hard to choose something other than Warlord for Perk 2 unless it's a shotty or sniper build.
 

GrantMeThePower

Platinum Member
Jun 10, 2005
2,923
2
0
Does anyone have any tips at all on killing a sentry gun? Is there one game mode where you see them much more often than others?

In the hundred games or whatever i've played I've seen the opposing team have it once! I've needed to kill one for ghost pro for over 30 games and just never even had an chance.
 

Stuxnet

Diamond Member
Jun 16, 2005
8,392
1
0
On top of that, out of 3 care packages using Hardline Pro I got 2 SR-71's which circumvent the Ghost's invisibility. It was great since all but 1 enemy decided Ghost was the way to go.

SR-71 may be my favorite killstreak reward.

What are you talking about?

http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Ghost_%28perk%29

Ghost is a Tier 1 Perk in Call of Duty: Black Ops. It makes the user undetectable by enemy Spy Planes and SR-71 Blackbirds.
Ghost works against the SR-71.

Since you're making up perk details, I'll assume the "all but 1 were running Ghost" was also pulled entirely from your... uh... "guestimation box"
 

bucwylde23

Diamond Member
Apr 21, 2005
4,180
0
71
Does anyone have any tips at all on killing a sentry gun? Is there one game mode where you see them much more often than others?

In the hundred games or whatever i've played I've seen the opposing team have it once! I've needed to kill one for ghost pro for over 30 games and just never even had an chance.

If i'm ever on when you are let me know, just join my game and get on the other team I'll enable sentry gunand let you blow it up.
 

Kabob

Lifer
Sep 5, 2004
15,248
0
76
I thought SR-71 circumvented Ghost...either that or everyone on the other team suddenly switched to a non-Ghost class.
 
sale-70-410-exam    | Exam-200-125-pdf    | we-sale-70-410-exam    | hot-sale-70-410-exam    | Latest-exam-700-603-Dumps    | Dumps-98-363-exams-date    | Certs-200-125-date    | Dumps-300-075-exams-date    | hot-sale-book-C8010-726-book    | Hot-Sale-200-310-Exam    | Exam-Description-200-310-dumps?    | hot-sale-book-200-125-book    | Latest-Updated-300-209-Exam    | Dumps-210-260-exams-date    | Download-200-125-Exam-PDF    | Exam-Description-300-101-dumps    | Certs-300-101-date    | Hot-Sale-300-075-Exam    | Latest-exam-200-125-Dumps    | Exam-Description-200-125-dumps    | Latest-Updated-300-075-Exam    | hot-sale-book-210-260-book    | Dumps-200-901-exams-date    | Certs-200-901-date    | Latest-exam-1Z0-062-Dumps    | Hot-Sale-1Z0-062-Exam    | Certs-CSSLP-date    | 100%-Pass-70-383-Exams    | Latest-JN0-360-real-exam-questions    | 100%-Pass-4A0-100-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-300-135-exams-date    | Passed-200-105-Tech-Exams    | Latest-Updated-200-310-Exam    | Download-300-070-Exam-PDF    | Hot-Sale-JN0-360-Exam    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Exams    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-JN0-360-exams-date    | Exam-Description-1Z0-876-dumps    | Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps    | Dumps-HPE0-Y53-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-HPE0-Y53-Exam    | 100%-Pass-HPE0-Y53-Real-Exam-Questions    | Pass-4A0-100-Exam    | Latest-4A0-100-Questions    | Dumps-98-365-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-98-365-Exam    | 100%-Pass-VCS-254-Exams    | 2017-Latest-VCS-273-Exam    | Dumps-200-355-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-300-320-Exam    | Pass-300-101-Exam    | 100%-Pass-300-115-Exams    |
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    | http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    |